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Truce monitors have travelled to Trincomalee in north-east Sri Lanka to try to ease tension after two days of government air strikes on Tamil rebels.


There have been no new government attacks since the air strikes on Tuesday and Wednesday.
However, both sides have threatened to retaliate further if they are attacked.
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Lyndon Jeffels,
UN refugee agency

On Thursday, a mine blast in the Kayts islet in the north's Jaffna peninsula killed two navy sailors but a government military spokesman said this would not spark new air strikes.



The Tamil Tigers say more than 40,000 people were displaced as refugees after the latest air strikes
 
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Yet another suicide attack in the Sri Lankan capital and the government has responded by unleashing air strikes on Tamil rebel positions in the east. So, is this war?
Ground realities clearly suggest that the 2002 ceasefire agreement exists only on paper and unless the cycle of violence is stopped it will be difficult to prevent the country from sliding into full-scale war.

But to the relief of many, in an address to the nation on Tuesday, Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapakse expressed hope that peace process could still be saved while at the same time issuing a stern warning to the Tamil Tiger rebels.
The rebels, meanwhile, have not reacted so far to the reportedly intense shelling by the Sri Lankan air force, navy and army in the eastern Trincomalee region. It is a matter of time before they respond.
Only a few days ago, there was a glimmer of hope that the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and the government would participate in a second round of peace talks in Geneva.
In fact, Norwegian peace envoy Jon Hanssen Bauer is still in Colombo hoping to persuade the rebels to attend the talks.
Tit-for-tat attacks
Citing attacks on the security forces, the government had earlier refused to give military helicopters to transport LTTE's eastern commanders from the east to the north to meet their leaders.
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Both sides have been blamed for escalating the violence

The Tamil rebel leadership, which insists on discussing the ground situation with eastern leaders before the second round of Geneva peace talks, was not prepared to fly its commanders by private helicopter.
Officially, the 2002 ceasefire agreement still holds. But more than 200 soldiers, rebels and civilians have been killed in various violent incidents since last November. Rebels and government forces have been accusing each other of carrying out tit-for-tat attacks.
Analysts blame both parties for the escalation of violence and also for not keeping up the promises made in Geneva in February this year. Attacks on security forces did not subside and the rebels accused the government of not disarming paramilitary groups in the eastern region.
'Wake-up call'
But no-one expected such a daring attack on army chief Lt-Gen Sarath Fonseka in the capital, where life was relatively normal despite the trouble in the Tamil-dominated north and east.
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Massive co-ordinated international effort is needed to contain the situation. Norway alone cannot do that
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D B S Jeyaraj
Analyst


"Maybe the Tiger rebels wanted to give a wake-up call to the government," retired Sri Lankan vice Air Marshal Harry Goonathilake told the BBC. He says the only way forward is to implement the promises made in Geneva talks.
At the moment, Norwegian mediators seem to be struggling to bring both parties together. Also, the international ceasefire monitors say their small team of 60 members cannot cope with the escalating violent incidents.
With events spiralling out of control, it looks like Norwegian facilitation alone cannot save the faltering peace process now.
"Massive co-ordinated international effort is needed to contain the situation. Norway alone cannot do that," says Sri Lankan analyst D B S Jeyaraj. Though for the moment both parties insist that they will abide by the ceasefire agreement it looks like ongoing events may influence their decisions and outcomes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4945112.stm
 
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The pearl on the Indian ocean is going to get drowned in civil war gain.
 
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Why did the LTTE suddenly go on the offensive? I thought that the post-tsunami bonhomie would ease tensions in the island.
 
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sword9 said:
Why did the LTTE suddenly go on the offensive? I thought that the post-tsunami bonhomie would ease tensions in the island.

There were reports in press about tigers collecting money from the tamil diaspora for a last battle.

And also how long can you keep the tigers away from the gun,thast whatr they can do best and it was for sure that they wud have come back to it.
 
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Military air strikes fuel fear and hate
The BBC's Soutik Biswas is one of the first journalists to reach the Tamil Tiger-held territory of Muthur - bombarded by Sri Lankan forces after Tuesday's assassination attempt on the nation's army chief - where he met both Tigers and residents.

The Tamil Tigers do not seem unduly worried over the decimation of a beachfront training camp by this week's air strikes in Sri Lanka's north-eastern Trincomalee district.
S Elililan, the local Tiger supremo, says they had come to know of the military air strikes a good three hours before they began and informed the public.
"That is why we had such few casualties," says Mr Elililan, sitting in his spanking new office, as an aide videotapes our meeting.
Two days of air strikes and shelling in Muthur left 15 people dead and more than 40 wounded - and the rebels claim they have not lost any of their people.
'Desire to retaliate'
Nestling in the sands of the wide beach in Sampore in Muthur, the destroyed beachfront rebel training camp looks pretty rudimentary.

We are waiting for orders from our leader - we hope he will give a call to war
Kariavalan
Tamil Tiger


There is a thatched "classroom" where Tigers took lessons and watched television.
Outside on the sand, says my guide Yasodharan, the rebels underwent six months of rigorous weapons training.
Twenty-five-year-old Tiger Kariavalan, who joined two years ago, expresses anger about the air strikes.
"Rather than suffer and lose our people bit by bit, we can fight once and for all," he says.
"We are ready for war. We are waiting for orders from our leader. We hope he will give a call to war," he says.
The damage in Muthur - hit by air strikes and shelling following the suicide attack on the nation's army chief in Colombo - appears to be limited.
Empty homes Most of the homes are intact, but outside the rebel camp we see a gold shop and a house which have been destroyed in the attacks.


The electricity lines of Sampor which were destroyed in the shelling are being repaired by workers of the country's Ceylon Electricity Board.
There is an effort to bring back things to normality.
The bumpy, red-earth roads of the Tiger-controlled areas are dotted with their health centres, banks, rest houses, post offices, the Tamil Eelam administrative service office, and mills. There are lush farms and red-tiled homes.
But look closely and you find that many homes are empty.
There is a great deal of fear, and most Tamils have fled their homes for makeshift dwellings under trees and in local schools.
For the time being, however, there does not seem to be a shortage of food - local NGOs and the Tamil Relief Organisation are already providing that. German wheat flour and Chinese mackerel in tomato sauce are already being shipped in.
Yasmin Ali Haque, a co-ordinator for Unicef in the area, says 5,600 people who fled Muthur are camped out at a school in Paddalipuram, fearful to go home because of the shelling.
"Adults in this area remember the aerial attacks from the early 1990s but they have never been exposed to shelling. People are very worried and scared," she says.
One family's story

Among the anxious families are Amrithalingam and his wife and children, who had just had lunch on Tuesday when they heard a thud. Then shots rang out in the midday heat.
The family huddled in a ditch outside their home until it was over.
Amrithalingam and his wife, Asha - with their four children on a tractor - walked five miles to Paddalipuram and joined other families who had set up camp under a tree.
Sandstorms lash them during the day, while mosquitoes prevent a good night's sleep.
"We are scared to return. Three neighbours died in the shelling. It looks like the war is returning. But we want peace," says Asha.
'Patience wearing thin'

It's not that I like war, but it seems to be the only solution - chances of more peace talks are very thin
Tamil Tiger supremo, S Elililan

Back at Muthur, local Tiger supremo Mr Elililan says they are not returning to all-out conflict.
"We are being patient. We have never been this patient in the past after the sort of attack that has happened. Because there's an environment of peace," he says.

But peace could be on borrowed time in the Tiger heartland.
"From the beginning we have known war is the only solution," says Mr Elililan. "Six rounds of talks have not yielded anything."
In the searing heat, it is business as usual outside. Armed Tigers patrol the road, and a young Tiger, Olichelvan, smilingly shows us his cyanide pill hanging from his neck.
A fellow Tiger tells us: "Seven seconds... that's all it takes for you to die after biting the pill. The glass casing shatters, cuts through your skin, the poison enters your blood stream, you feel a fizzy sensation, and you are dead. Just seven seconds." It is not going to be easy restoring peace to Sri Lanka.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/4955938.stm

Published: 2006/04/28 20:12:03 GMT

© BBC MMVI
 
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This is a good opportunity for the Pakistani government at the request of the Srilankan Govt. to send troop to crush the tamil rebels and estabilish Sri Lanka as an Ally and base Aircraft, troops and ships there.

It should be better planned than the Indian attempt when they sent their troops in without enough Airsupport and heavy armour.

This is an opportunity that shouldnt be missed.
 
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sigatoka said:
This is a good opportunity for the Pakistani government at the request of the Srilankan Govt. to send troop to crush the tamil rebels and estabilish Sri Lanka as an Ally and base Aircraft, troops and ships there.

It should be better planned than the Indian attempt when they sent their troops in without enough Airsupport and heavy armour.

This is an opportunity that shouldnt be missed.
You really don't know what you are asking for?
 
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sword9 said:
You really don't know what you are asking for?

What? What?

It would be only to advance democracy, spread prosperity and remove the negative influence of meddling neighbours.

Nah, actually it would be just like Indias attitude towards Kashmir better Pakistani Artillery shells dropping there than in Delhi.
 
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sigatoka said:
This is a good opportunity for the Pakistani government at the request of the Srilankan Govt. to send troop to crush the tamil rebels and estabilish Sri Lanka as an Ally and base Aircraft, troops and ships there.

It should be better planned than the Indian attempt when they sent their troops in without enough Airsupport and heavy armour.

This is an opportunity that shouldnt be missed.

Sigakota,

Tamil Tigers are known as the most diciplined and Organized terrerist Forces in the world.

Don't label them Hindu terrerists (Which you havent yet) as they fight for Tamil unity and their rights in Lanka. which they have Muslims and Christians too.

Tamil community is not only majors in the Indian state Tamil Nadu but also in countries like Singapore and Malaysia from where they get a plenty of funds.

Indians did have air support (Hinds) as use of fighters is useless.

Problem is you dont know who is rebel and who is civilian. 10 year old kids also attacked the Armymen of IA. IA personnel were having strict instructions not to fire untill fired upon which caused heavy damage.

For last few days the dreams of Pakistani bases in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are being discussed.

Let me enlight you guyz with few facts.

Sri Lanka: -

80% of the Sri Lankan economy depends on India. Cars,Trucks,Rickshaw's, bikes and the precisous oil comes through/from Indian companies. Most of the Sri Lanka's tourist business depends on Indians.

After the Tsunami disaster it was the IN and Indian aid who helped lanka with all the medical and Economical aid. Without Indian Navy Sri Lanka was fucked up.

I had my own thread on this.

Pakistan might open a base but how you will provide them the economy and disaster aid. Pakistan's airlift capability and naval heavylift has been exposed in recent Earthquake.

Bangladesh: -

believe it or not and like it or not.

Bangladesh has 75%+ trade with India. For tourism no Indian goes there.

In defence views

You open a base in Lanka and/or Bangladesh and in war time the parent country will be fucked up along with the Pakistani establishments against the mighty IN and the eastern and Southern Command of IAF. No need of army to paralise Lanka and BD.

Also a very important question for you.

PA is already busy in Baluchistan,Afgan Border and Indian Border along with uncle's war on terror.

PN is a part of Coilition group.

What is remaining to spare for setting up a base in Lanka or Bangladesh???

Miro

P.S: - Only sane educated members with proper backing reply.
 
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miroslav said:
For last few days the dreams of Pakistani bases in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are being discussed.

Let me enlight you guyz with few facts.

Sri Lanka: -

80% of the Sri Lankan economy depends on India. Cars,Trucks,Rickshaw's, bikes and the precisous oil comes through/from Indian companies. Most of the Sri Lanka's tourist business depends on Indians.

After the Tsunami disaster it was the IN and Indian aid who helped lanka with all the medical and Economical aid. Without Indian Navy Sri Lanka was fucked up.

believe it or not and like it or not.

Miro, honestly you shouldnt swear so much, it detracts from everything else that is written.

Secondly I know that Sri Lanka has close economic ties with India but what relevance does that have if Pakistan were to decide to deploy troops or give military aid to the Sri Lankan governement?

Yes, Pakistani military can not afford to deploy 40,000 troops but it could deploy military trainers and a few thousand troops and give small arms as aid.
 
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It would be only to advance democracy, spread prosperity and remove the negative influence of meddling neighbours.

Nah, actually it would be just like Indias attitude towards Kashmir better Pakistani Artillery shells dropping there than in Delhi.
That is a very familiar reply. However, you really cannot even pretend to do the above when the same is denied to your own people.
Now assess PA's performance in NWFP and Balochistan. The jihads/ Balochis fighing there are dimwits when compared to the LTTE. The Sri Lankan army is not a ragtag force, they are very professional, and their jungle fighting would outclass most standard PA battalions.
sigatoka said:
Yes, Pakistani military can not afford to deploy 40,000 troops but it could deploy military trainers and a few thousand troops and give small arms as aid.
There is nothing the PA can teach the Sri Lankans that the Israelis have not taught them. The Sri Lankan army arty officers train in Pakistan and their infantry officers train in India. So the Sri Lankans know their stuff.
 
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sword9 said:
That is a very familiar reply. However, you really cannot even pretend to do the above when the same is denied to your own people.
Now assess PA's performance in NWFP and Balochistan. The jihads/ Balochis fighing there are dimwits when compared to the LTTE. The Sri Lankan army is not a ragtag force, they are very professional, and their jungle fighting would outclass most standard PA battalions.

There is nothing the PA can teach the Sri Lankans that the Israelis have not taught them. The Sri Lankan army arty officers train in Pakistan and their infantry officers train in India. So the Sri Lankans know their stuff.

looks like the IA did a tremendous job in training the LTTE!!!
though not a LTTE symphatiser, i always admired there fighting capabilty.
 
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sword9 said:
That is a very familiar reply. However, you really cannot even pretend to do the above when the same is denied to your own people.

Democracy should be judged on the results it gives. On this count, India is denies the same rights that Pakistan does, namely the right of clean water, food, affordable education and a prosperous life. The fact that the system of government of India is different than Pakistans but which gives the same results as that Pakistan does not make India superior.

Democracy as is practiced in India allows for significant economic distortions which is evident in some of the regressive Indian economic policies.

Pakistan on the other hand in the last six years has undertaken deep reforms in every sector of the economy which will manifest in higher future economic growth.
 
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