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Why was this held up? Tooi government was incharge there. Makes sense.

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Much needed. It's the epicenter of terror related violence in Pakistan now.
 
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Why was this held up? Tooi government was incharge there. Makes sense.
I have always propagated one thing - as much as the military is to be blamed for **** ups of Pakistan, the bureaucracy of the country is to be equally blamed....bureaucrats left no opportunity for their personal goals.....
here is the story for the delay

Chinese bidders fight over Quetta safe city project
ISLAMABAD: A much delayed Rs3 billion strategic project to secure the Balochistan capital from terrorism and smuggling appears to have become a turf war between two Chinese contractors and their influential supporters.

Sources said the former chief minister Sanaullah Zehri had approved the award of the contract to the ‘lowest evaluated bidder’ — Huawei consortium — on the expert advice of the procurement regulatory authority.

The provincial bureaucracy sat on the approval for around two weeks and is reported to have persuaded new Chief Minister, Abdul Quddus Bizenjo, to overturn the decision and has issued a letter of intent (LoI) to the ‘bidder with lowest price’ — ZTE consortium.

Both the chief ministers took their respective decisions on the same summary. “The ongoing saga of the award of contract for the execution of Quetta Safe City Project is setting a new standard in terms of influence peddling and stretching of procurement rules,” according to an official who has been part of the selection process spread over 18 months.

New chief minister overturns contract approved by his predecessor

The project envisaged about 1,400 security cameras, three scanners on main city entrances, 300km fibre optic cable, 260 poles and integrated security control rooms with hardware and screens.

The two parties, vested interests, bureaucracy and political leadership have been fighting over the project since 2016, causing an inordinate delay and a series of security incidents in Quetta over the last year.

The terms of reference (ToR) for Quetta Safe City were issued in September 2016 to selected public sector entities and their international technical partners as required under the Balochistan Public Procurement Regulatory Authority (BPRA) Rules. The parties included ZTE with SCO, National Electronic Complex (Necop), National Telecommunication Company (NTC), Huawei with National Radio Transmission Company (NRTC) and HKH and Army Welfare Trust (AWT).

Necop and NTC decided not to participate. The remaining bids were submitted on Sept 30, 2016. The Balochistan government appointed Nespak as the principal consultant that utilised the specialised services of a UK-based consulting firm — Red Tag. After four months of evaluation, AWT’s bid was disqualified on technical grounds.

Based on technical qualification, the financial bids of Huawei and ZTE consortiums were opened and the scores were collated and finalised on the basis of ‘Quality and Cost-Based Selection Method” as required under terms of reference of the BPRA rules. This required quality as the prime consideration and cost as secondary consideration and the firm with the highest combined / evaluated weighted score has to be declared winner.

The TOR laid out the scoring and evaluation criteria in accordance with Rule 34 (evaluation criteria) of the BPRA Rules, accorded 80 per cent weightage to technical and 20pc to the financial bid. On the basis of combined scores of 86.48, Huawei-NRTC consortium scored the highest marks while the ZTE-SCO achieved the second position by scoring 76.80.

As the lobbying intensified, the results were not announced as ZTE group supported the lowest financial bid while Huawei group claimed combined best scores on the basis of the bidding criteria.

Instead of adhering to the procurement rules that prohibit further negotiations and seek declaration of the winner on the basis of the competitive bidding process, the Balochistan government directed the two consortiums to submit revised financial bids. Yet again, based on the revised bids, the Huawei consortium achieved the highest evaluated score.

Because of intense debate, the provincial government approached BPRA for certain clarifications. The BPRA clarified that since the basis of the bidding was clearly laid out to be quality, the party scoring the highest aggregate marks (technical and financial) was the winner. It also said the selection criteria couldn’t be changed after submission of the bids and during the evaluation process.

Accordingly, the winner is the party achieving the highest score in compliance with the laid out scoring criteria and not necessarily the party with the lowest bid price, the BPRA noted on quoting the evaluation criteria and other terms and conditions set forth in the bidding document.

Notwithstanding unambiguous clarification by the BPRA, the Balochistan chief secretary proposed two options to the former chief minister. One, the project should be awarded to Huawei-NRTC on the basis of overall high score of 84.01 but with higher bid price of Rs2.96bn. Second, the project be given to ZTE-SCO with a low price of Rs2.28bn, but a lower evaluated score.

In view of legal clarifications by the BPRA, the former chief minister approved the Huawei-NRTC for contract award on November 3 last year, although it was financially expensive but technically stronger.

The bureaucracy did not issue the LoI for two months to the approved bidder.

As soon as the chief minister was forced to step down due to the evolving political situation, the provincial bureaucracy found a window to overturn his LoI approval to ZTE-SCO on Jan 26.
 
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It has become a fashion and a hobby for the indian lobby-tards to blame military for all mistakes of politicians and bureaucracy. Since when the internal security of the cities have become a responsibility of the army. After 9/11 no one blamed US military for the failure and no military was deployed in the city rather NYPD handled the situation. It is the job of the police and the interior ministry to secure the city but our corrupt politicians have destroyed all the institution and their unbridled corruption has deprived the govt of the necessary funds. This project required only Rs. 3.0 billion but it has been delayed by 5 years. Now compare this with NAB's operation against a single provincial secretary and the recovery of Rs. 800 million in cash from his basement with a currency counting machine.. the corruption by these ministers, governors reaches in tens of billions...


However the military leadership is not all innocent either. It is to be blamed for the covert and malicious deals and manipulation it has done in the past like NRO, supporting and propping some political groups against others, rigging and engineering the election outcome and joining the American war of terror and kill our own people etc.
 
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@balixd
It has become a fashion and a hobby for the indian lobby-tards to blame military for all mistakes of politicians and bureaucracy. Since when the internal security of the cities have become a responsibility of the army. After 9/11 no one blamed US military for the failure and no military was deployed in the city rather NYPD handled the situation. It is the job of the police and the interior ministry to secure the city but our corrupt politicians have destroyed all the institution and their unbridled corruption has deprived the govt of the necessary funds. This project required only Rs. 3.0 billion but it has been delayed by 5 years. Now compare NAB's this with a single provincial secretary had Rs. 800 million in cash in his basement with a currency counting machine.. the corruption by these ministers, governors reaches in tens of billions...


However the military leadership is not all innocent either. It is to be blamed for the covert and malicious deals and manipulation it has done in the past like NRO, supporting and propping some political groups against others, rigging and engineering the election outcome and joining the American war of terror and kill our own people etc.
someone sold Abottabad commission report to AL JAzeera TV for mere 10,000$ , it was leaked from Secretariat.....today money collected from brothels, gambling stations, robbers / thieves is sent all the way up to the chain of command......politicos using clerks & bureaucrats for handling their dirty work......a case has been filed in High Court rawalpindi, a clerk was being transfered to a very remote area, that he did not wish to happen. one thing led to another and he filed a petition against the transfer order......High Court sent him on leave for 2 months till the matter was decided.....now that clerk is begging his advocate to drop the case as he is losing money by sitting home....it was not his salary he depended on, it was the extra cash flow that he was sitting on....hence needed to get back in his chair as soon as possible.......
 
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I have always propagated one thing - as much as the military is to be blamed for **** ups of Pakistan, the bureaucracy of the country is to be equally blamed....bureaucrats left no opportunity for their personal goals.....
here is the story for the delay

Chinese bidders fight over Quetta safe city project
ISLAMABAD: A much delayed Rs3 billion strategic project to secure the Balochistan capital from terrorism and smuggling appears to have become a turf war between two Chinese contractors and their influential supporters.

Sources said the former chief minister Sanaullah Zehri had approved the award of the contract to the ‘lowest evaluated bidder’ — Huawei consortium — on the expert advice of the procurement regulatory authority.

The provincial bureaucracy sat on the approval for around two weeks and is reported to have persuaded new Chief Minister, Abdul Quddus Bizenjo, to overturn the decision and has issued a letter of intent (LoI) to the ‘bidder with lowest price’ — ZTE consortium.

Both the chief ministers took their respective decisions on the same summary. “The ongoing saga of the award of contract for the execution of Quetta Safe City Project is setting a new standard in terms of influence peddling and stretching of procurement rules,” according to an official who has been part of the selection process spread over 18 months.

New chief minister overturns contract approved by his predecessor

The project envisaged about 1,400 security cameras, three scanners on main city entrances, 300km fibre optic cable, 260 poles and integrated security control rooms with hardware and screens.

The two parties, vested interests, bureaucracy and political leadership have been fighting over the project since 2016, causing an inordinate delay and a series of security incidents in Quetta over the last year.

The terms of reference (ToR) for Quetta Safe City were issued in September 2016 to selected public sector entities and their international technical partners as required under the Balochistan Public Procurement Regulatory Authority (BPRA) Rules. The parties included ZTE with SCO, National Electronic Complex (Necop), National Telecommunication Company (NTC), Huawei with National Radio Transmission Company (NRTC) and HKH and Army Welfare Trust (AWT).

Necop and NTC decided not to participate. The remaining bids were submitted on Sept 30, 2016. The Balochistan government appointed Nespak as the principal consultant that utilised the specialised services of a UK-based consulting firm — Red Tag. After four months of evaluation, AWT’s bid was disqualified on technical grounds.

Based on technical qualification, the financial bids of Huawei and ZTE consortiums were opened and the scores were collated and finalised on the basis of ‘Quality and Cost-Based Selection Method” as required under terms of reference of the BPRA rules. This required quality as the prime consideration and cost as secondary consideration and the firm with the highest combined / evaluated weighted score has to be declared winner.

The TOR laid out the scoring and evaluation criteria in accordance with Rule 34 (evaluation criteria) of the BPRA Rules, accorded 80 per cent weightage to technical and 20pc to the financial bid. On the basis of combined scores of 86.48, Huawei-NRTC consortium scored the highest marks while the ZTE-SCO achieved the second position by scoring 76.80.

As the lobbying intensified, the results were not announced as ZTE group supported the lowest financial bid while Huawei group claimed combined best scores on the basis of the bidding criteria.

Instead of adhering to the procurement rules that prohibit further negotiations and seek declaration of the winner on the basis of the competitive bidding process, the Balochistan government directed the two consortiums to submit revised financial bids. Yet again, based on the revised bids, the Huawei consortium achieved the highest evaluated score.

Because of intense debate, the provincial government approached BPRA for certain clarifications. The BPRA clarified that since the basis of the bidding was clearly laid out to be quality, the party scoring the highest aggregate marks (technical and financial) was the winner. It also said the selection criteria couldn’t be changed after submission of the bids and during the evaluation process.

Accordingly, the winner is the party achieving the highest score in compliance with the laid out scoring criteria and not necessarily the party with the lowest bid price, the BPRA noted on quoting the evaluation criteria and other terms and conditions set forth in the bidding document.

Notwithstanding unambiguous clarification by the BPRA, the Balochistan chief secretary proposed two options to the former chief minister. One, the project should be awarded to Huawei-NRTC on the basis of overall high score of 84.01 but with higher bid price of Rs2.96bn. Second, the project be given to ZTE-SCO with a low price of Rs2.28bn, but a lower evaluated score.

In view of legal clarifications by the BPRA, the former chief minister approved the Huawei-NRTC for contract award on November 3 last year, although it was financially expensive but technically stronger.

The bureaucracy did not issue the LoI for two months to the approved bidder.

As soon as the chief minister was forced to step down due to the evolving political situation, the provincial bureaucracy found a window to overturn his LoI approval to ZTE-SCO on Jan 26.

People died and diddly squat was done! All those people need to be put to the cross for this injustice. Truth is the society from which Bureaucracy, Politicians and Military come from needs reforms. Need to adopt the Chinese method of eliminating corruption.


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someone sold Abottabad commission report to AL JAzeera TV for mere 10,000$ , it was leaked from Secretariat.....today money collected from brothels, gambling stations, robbers / thieves is sent all the way up to the chain of command......politicos using clerks & bureaucrats for handling their dirty work......a case has been filed in High Court rawalpindi, a clerk was being transfered to a very remote area, that he did not wish to happen. one thing led to another and he filed a petition against the transfer order......High Court sent him on leave for 2 months till the matter was decided.....now that clerk is begging his advocate to drop the case as he is losing money by sitting home....it was not his salary he depended on, it was the extra cash flow that he was sitting on....hence needed to get back in his chair as soon as possible.......
Wow...see even clerks are doing corruption because the whole of command is corrupted. They take bribes and sell secret documents and pay the share to their superiors. Most of our bureaucrats are living a lifestyle well beyond their legal incomes. I really liked this criteria of testing the assets of an individual vs. his or her legally provable sources of income. This should be applied to the all governmental officials by relevant authorities and it should start from the top...Check federal secretaries in grade 23, 22, and 21 and start to go down and also identify the institutions that have more potential of corruption for example in customs even a clerk and a peon does more corruption than an officer in the military.
 
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Totally useless without facial recognition software until that comes we would be studying things only after the crime has taken place.
Hazrat Face recognition is a added upgrade to an existing system. First atleast start by having a camera system monitoring to work. Let's not put cart before the horse.
 
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the cameras should cover every street of Quetta and just not the city, but outskirts of Quetta as well which are often targeted by the militants. It is much easier for the militants to escape.
 
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we need to give armored Vehicles to FC and Police, and for quick response some bikes in pair of 2 bikes 4 soldiers , most of the cases in Quetta are terrorists coming on bike to shoot police who are either resting or eating or just standing on guard duty, and they escape on bikes which is quite easy ..we need to find a way to chase and kill them
 
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Totally useless without facial recognition software until that comes we would be studying things only after the crime has taken place.
all Safe City project currently operating in the major cities have ANPR for vehicles, if this is an added feature than facial recognition system can be added too at the latter stage......first monitor the vehicles atleast.......
 
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Wow...see even clerks are doing corruption because the whole of command is corrupted. They take bribes and sell secret documents and pay the share to their superiors. Most of our bureaucrats are living a lifestyle well beyond their legal incomes. I really liked this criteria of testing the assets of an individual vs. his or her legally provable sources of income. This should be applied to the all governmental officials by relevant authorities and it should start from the top...
My old hero, Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S. Yaqub-Khan, was voted the best-looking diplomat in Washington for years: not only was he trim but his suits from Savile Row in London cost thousands of dollars. And one Pakistani newspaper story I read, I think the author was Asma Jangahir, wrote that before Y-K was in D.C. he was in Paris and the embassy staff were always demanding bribes...

When a bribery culture exists from bottom-to-top, from top-to-bottom, then a truly honest man is a threat to the system: he will either be cruelly exploited or ejected. In that case perhaps what's needed isn't just a drive to eliminate corruption - which can only have a minor and temporary effect - but a kind of New Deal that uncovers the mud, establishes accountability, raises salaries, and casts a wide net of pardons to existing not-so-belligerent offenders.
 
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