Questions about Pakistanis, Indian Muslims and Bangladeshis

[third eye]

The thing is when Jinnah made Pakistan Bengal was a part of it. It should again be a part.

For me the biggest part is honoring Jinnah as well as other founders of Pakistan like Nurul Amin and others.

Okay.. but when did Jinnah cry ?

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Selam to everyone,

I have some questions on my mind that I would like to ask but I'm afraid that some might feel insulted.
Anyway, that's not my intention. I apologise in advance if anybody should feel I have insulted them or trodden on their toes. It's just...I don't know much about the identities and cultures in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh. To be honest, some things confuse me.

Last year I met a Pakistani and a Bangladeshi guy at the university. Both super nice, they were real friends. There was no problem at all. Last week I met another exchange student from Bangladesh. As the overwhelming majority of Bangladeshis this guy was polite, nice and intelligent. Unfortunately, at the end of our talk I found out, that he is a real Pakistan hater.

I was like: Whuaaat?!

So, I have tons of questions:

How is the relationship between Pakistanis and Bangladeshis today?

Is Bangladesh pro India?

What (with the exception of the language) are the cultural differences between Pakistani and Bangladeshi societies?

Do Pakistani and Indian Muslims see themselves as a part of one nation divided in two countries?

Is Pakistan a "desi" country? Actually, isn't "desi" a racist label?

I would welcome your response. Please excuse my bad command of English.

1: Most Bangladeshis like Pakistanis
2:
3: No, Pakistani and Indian Muslims are different in cultural, ethnic and even linguistic factors.
4: No...

 

[Max]

Grave worship and peer muradi culture.

Muslim worship Allah alone.. if anyone visit shrine doesn't make him grave worshipers...also Peeri Muridi is known as Tariqat or Tariqa in all around Muslim world.. Naqshbandi, Qadariyyah are two most famous tariqat all around Muslim world..... it isnt gross or haram in Islam... wahabis use these kind of words (grave worshipers) against Sunnis for hate mongering.. Founder of Wahabi religion and Saud of Saudi Arabia did same.. they accuse all Sunni people to be grave worshipers and kill thousands in Arabia to make thier fiefdom.. there followers are still doing this in Pakistan in shape of TTP.. TTP, Lej kill shia and Sunnis for same reasons while Wahhabi public meetings go unscratched anywhere in the world..

 

[ghilzai]

Getting Rid of Bangladeshis was the next best thing after Sliced bread, 1500 miles apart, culturally different no common heritage or culture other then religion.

They were weak minded people and always played the victim card and used it on every occasion to their advantage.

Desi is an insulting word, it's a word usually used for 2inch gujratis, patels and other Indians, how can a Pakistani refer to him or herself as a Desi is beyond me, we are watani and not Desi.

Quaid Azam was dead and a mere dust in his grave when Bangladesh broke away so he couldn't have cried, for those who have love for Bangladeshis and Indian Muslims should move there and express it with passion, this is our land land of Punjabis, Sindhis, Baluch, Pukhtoons and Kashmiris not any other Tom dick and Abdul.

First of all we are Muslims and brothers
Once upon a time Bangladesh was part of Pakistan and they were true Pakistanis
We lived in separate countries but we have same history even Pakistan movement was start from east Pakistan
We love them and Bangladeshi people also love Pakistani as they showed world in Asia cup match against India.
Just like we have corrupted govt they also have corrupted and family government in Bangladesh. As there are many culture difference in Pakistan's every province yes we do have cultural difference but not religion difference.
I really don't know about Indian Muslims but as we heard about Hindu are dominating and killing Muslims in India without any strong reason just due to religion. We feel bad for them but Indian Muslim should united themselves against terror by Hindus
Yes Pakistan is a Desi country but we not racist country as every country have religion groups we do have religion groups but religion did teach hate and killing of innocent
Desi dose not mean that we racist country

Get a grip brother, we are not a Desi country, don't insult me and my nation with that word and no we don't give two hoots about Indian Muslims, they are culturally, linguistically different and are illegitimate children of turco Afghans.

 

[nForce]

He is simply trying to gauge whether BDForever's religious identity trumps his ethnic identity or not. You seem to have totally misunderstood him

No, why should ever be any competition between the two ? Is it mutually exclusive ? Probably its a wrong place to be if it is so.

 

[takeiteasy]

No, Pakistani and Indian Muslims are different in cultural, ethnic and even linguistic factors.

Whether you are a hanafi or Shafi is what divides Sunni Muslims in India. This comes before other internal divisions, at least in south western parts of India.

 

[tsinga]

Selam to everyone,

I have some questions on my mind that I would like to ask but I'm afraid that some might feel insulted.
Anyway, that's not my intention. I apologise in advance if anybody should feel I have insulted them or trodden on their toes. It's just...I don't know much about the identities and cultures in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh. To be honest, some things confuse me.

Last year I met a Pakistani and a Bangladeshi guy at the university. Both super nice, they were real friends. There was no problem at all. Last week I met another exchange student from Bangladesh. As the overwhelming majority of Bangladeshis this guy was polite, nice and intelligent. Unfortunately, at the end of our talk I found out, that he is a real Pakistan hater.

I was like: Whuaaat?!

So, I have tons of questions:

How is the relationship between Pakistanis and Bangladeshis today?

Is Bangladesh pro India?

What (with the exception of the language) are the cultural differences between Pakistani and Bangladeshi societies?

Do Pakistani and Indian Muslims see themselves as a part of one nation divided in two countries?

Is Pakistan a "desi" country? Actually, isn't "desi" a racist label?

I would welcome your response. Please excuse my bad command of English.

This one image should answer the Bangladesh question for you.

50% of Bangladeshis do not have a favourable opinion of Pakistan.
30% of Bangladeshis do not have a favourable opinion of India.

You can ofcourse guess, why Bangladesh sides with India over Pakistan.

There are Lucknowis who want independence or merger with Pakistan-you cannot change this reality. Justice is oneof the most important things and our families have still not been given justice for those killed and our properties which were stolen since 47. If you do not give justice and elect a terrorist as PM it sends a very wrong message. I intend to free Lucknow of India and reunite our relatives. That is my prerogative.

That is neither here nor there.
There are Hindu Karachiites who want independence and/or merger with India.

But neither is possible. So these minorities will have to come to terms with the reality of the situation.

 

[Md Akmal]

and we can get alone very well , i will do namaz, she will do puja

@ My foot ???? " Dobe mor hatu jol pani te ".

 

[farhan_9909]

The biggest similarity between the subcontinent muslims is that we are together victims of saffron terrorism

 

[Md Akmal]

@ My dear beloved Pakistani friend, your idea is completely wrong ? Pakistan was created on the basis of "Two Nation Theory", written and propagated by Jinnah. For the creation of Pakistan each and every Muslim had a contribution. He may be Bengali, Sindi, Behari, Punjabi, Pathan, Balochi, Kashmiri and other Muslims of Indian Sub-continent. You (Pakistani) and me (Bangladeshi) are fortunate to have a separate state.

@ I still believe the "Two Nation Theory" exist in our country as well in this sub-continent.

@ You cannot ignore Abdul as Abdul's father or his grand father had a great contribution in "Larke Lenge Pakistan". About creation of Bangladesh as a separate entity, it is a big great game, " Jo hou tha door kahi asman me " . Conspiracy still going on and it will continue till India finally breaks !

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Indian's will have gathered like flies - in the hope that Pak, Indian and Ban., are all the same so they can have wet dreams about "Akhand Bharat".

Guess what guys? We are differant. And proud of being differant. I know I don't want my ethnic group to have anything to do with India and I know most Pakistani's will go along with this. Islamic brotherhood? Well look West.

The British tied us down for 98 years and soon as they left we went our way.

 

[django]

Look is temporary and so is lust Just imagine how ayaan will look like after she will cross the age of 50

Damn fine I should imagine.

 

[bongbang]

Indian's will have gathered like flies - in the hope that Pak, Indian and Ban., are all the same so they can have wet dreams about "Akhand Bharat".

Guess what guys? We are differant. And proud of being differant. I know I don't want my ethnic group to have anything to do with India and I know most Pakistani's will go along with this. Islamic brotherhood? Well look West.

The British tied us down for 98 years and soon as they left we went our way.

Yes Pakistan is better as PAKSTan. Two nation theory is crap. All religious nonsense is danger for Pakistan and world as a whole.

 

[Grevion]

The biggest similarity between the subcontinent muslims is that we are together victims of saffron terrorism

You do realize that the people who wears the saffron are none left in your country.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

@Raja.Pakistani

Let's stick to E Pakistan and west pakistan bcoz that was the point of discussion. .you cannot comprehend India's constitution because it's unique.

When you say constitution and Islamic you end up conflicting yourself. Islamic is based on a monotheistic society and a monotheistic way of life that is ruled by sharia..where does constitution or space for diversity come into this mental makeup?.

I definitely cannot comprehend Indian constitution who ban slaughter of cow based on Hindu scriptures and then you guys call it secularism. I definitely cannot comprehend Indian constitution who has different family laws for different people based on their religion and even keep caste based quota systems

Hinduism is based on a polytheist society and polytheist way of life that should be ruled according to Hindu ideology..where does constitution or space for minority or low castes come into this mental make up?

Its your ignorance if you believe Islamic society is lawless intolerant society where non Muslims dont get any rights. Most modern secular principles are very much compatible with Islam except probably open immoral sex or freedom of wine/gambling. Islamic society have principles and guidelines essential for social, political and spiritual guidance of humanity. The very first Islamic state established in Medina was based on a social contract which was constitutional in character and the ruler ruled with the explicit written consent of all the citizens of the state.

Constitution of Medina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

for those who have love for Bangladeshis and Indian Muslims should move there and express it with passion, this is our land land of Punjabis, Sindhis, Baluch, Pukhtoons and Kashmiris not any other Tom dick and Abdul.

Can we chant love for some thankless afghan brother in Islam who try to insult daal khor Punjabi day and night ?
I love every Muslim who respect me , my country and people. I hate only those who are arrogant, racist and bigot no matter where they from. Why should i hate those Bengali, Indian or afghan muslims who are kind toward me and dont keep any hatred for me? I am not blind hater