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Quad Partners Will Not Defend India Against China - Indian Navy Chief - Sputnik International

usa ditched india during doklam standoff and Maldivian crisis .

Ditched?? We never expected anything out of US anyway. Lol those weren't even major disputes to even consider help. Everything turns out perfectly.

4 Chinese ships ..... '4 Chinese ships ' ....... "4 Chinese ships" ....<4 Chinese ships> ...........

Don't understand what are you implying here.

India has unsinkable "aircraft carriers" in the form of A&N Islands which extend our reach upto Sunda straits.Chinese surface vessels will have to take a long and circuitous route to enter IOR

China now know that they can't counter PM Modi directly thats why they have started taking different approach. Though its too early to say anything about it.
 
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Ditched?? We never expected anything out of US anyway. Lol those weren't even major disputes to even consider help. Everything turns out perfectly.
your naval chief wont agree with you .

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Don't understand what are you implying here.
:D you do understand it really well :D . 4 Chinese ships .... just 4 Chinese ships ....:)
 
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The specific mentioning of the uncertainty of America is quite significant as, during the Doklam crisis, when the situation blew out of proportion at the border, the Trump administration maintained baffling silence during the crisis.

Why should we get involved in Sino-Indian conflict? Weird expectations.
 
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your naval chief wont agree with you .


:D you do understand it really well :D . 4 Chinese ships .... just 4 Chinese ships ....:)

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No country can match our naval power in IOR so we won't need much help from quad in case of conflict anyway. Now we've started moving towards South China Sea also. For China, air force is the most significant force thats why procurement of Rafales and S-400 is game changer.
confidence is good, not overconfidence.
the skewed ratio of submarines are overwhelmingly in the favor of the chinese.
as the zen master said, we will see.
 
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confidence is good, not overconfidence.
Lol like that matter on PDF, you think i'm from navy representative or what? Don't understand your point.
the skewed ratio of submarines are overwhelmingly in the favor of the chinese.
I was talking about IOR not submarines. Either you think China will send all their subs to IOR or you think we won't be able to detect them. In both case you're wrong.
as the zen master said, we will see.
Things not ready yet like A&N, Seychelles, IN ASW capabilities but in few yrs we will be ready. But still at present no country can dare to go against IN, we are both military & strategic powerhouse of this region.
 
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The chief of the Indian Navy has specifically emphasized the "uncertainty of America" as the reason behind India’s reservations against having a military dimension applied to the proposed Quad alliance between the United States, India, Japan and Australia.

New Delhi (Sputnik) — Signalling major mistrust among members of the proposed alliance between the United States, India, Japan and Australia, namely the Quad, the chief of the Indian Navy, Sunil Lanba, has categorically stated that the alliance will not have a military dimension and will stick to safe and secure economic co-operation in due course as well. Admiral Sunil Lanba, who is also India's senior-most military commander, said India has an unresolved border with China and that there are several reasons to not apply a military dimension to the Quad.

"There are dependencies of the nations involved in the Quad like Australian dependency on China for their economic well-being. The uncertainty of America when push comes to shove. So, I do not think there is a need for a military dimension to the Quad," Admiral Lanba said at a function organized by a think tank in New Delhi.

The specific mentioning of the uncertainty of America is quite significant as, during the Doklam crisis, when the situation blew out of proportion at the border, the Trump administration maintained baffling silence during the crisis.

"We have to be cognizant of the fact that among the Quad members we are the only one who has the land border with China. Can we expect any members of the Quad, in case there is a difference of opinion and conflict on our northern border, to come to our rescue? Nobody will come and hold your hand," Admiral Lanba pointed out.

Not applying a military component to the Quad alliance indicates the importance India attaches to the opinions of the East Asian countries, as most of the countries view India as a regional power in the Asia-Pacific region, but do not favor any polarization of defense and trade.

Last week, Singapore's defense minister Ng Eng Hen sounded his reservation against the Quad and rather emphasized an "inclusive regional security architecture" wherein all small and large states have ways and means to resolve disputes through peaceful means. Admiral Lanba on Wednesday also indicated that India would maintain its growing defense and trade partnership independently in the region, which is also known as China's backyard.

"We are the only navy which has an open invitation to visit Vietnam and we have been doing this annually. Ships have been docking into Vietnam and ships have also gone onto Cameron Bay. I had the privilege to visit Vietnam last year and I was the first naval chief who was given access to the Vietnamese part of the naval harbor at Cameron naval bay," Lanba added.

The first meeting of the proposed Quad took place last November in Manila where diplomats from India, the US, Japan and Australia met after a long hiatus. The Quad alliance was first mooted in 2007 by Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

Source:https://sputniknews.com/asia/201805241064769042-quad-not-defend-india-against-china/

Absolutely, correct.

We also live in this world. We know what happened around us.
 
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Bharatis wanted to use this leverage of China containment deal to dominate Pakistan.. sanghis were worshiping Trump on their filthy squares expecting him to sanction Pakistan like Israeli expect against Iran.. but they forget that they aren't Israel and no lunch is free of cost with Uncle Sam.
 
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US has always supported India against Pakistan.
both in war times and peace times.
 
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The glorious Pakistan centeric Indian foreign policy falling into pieces. From isolating Pakistan to hosting BRICs summit and boycotting BRI conference, what has Indian achieved?? Nothing, perhaps lost more. So many opportunities have been missed. I hope some one in India will start using his brain and lead the country into prosperity , improving the region as a whole.
 
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"We have to be cognizant of the fact that among the Quad members we are the only one who has the land border with China. Can we expect any members of the Quad, in case there is a difference of opinion and conflict on our northern border, to come to our rescue? Nobody will come and hold your hand," Admiral Lanba pointed out.
Wait... I thought the elephant showed the dragon its muscle in Doklam not beg Anglo master for help after poking the dragon? :rolleyes:

China now know that they can't counter PM Modi directly thats why they have started taking different approach. Though its too early to say anything about it.
LOL now India boasts about a nine-front war against China, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Maldives, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Bhutan and Sikkim! :lol:
 
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Within 10 years, when our 6 AC battle groups are completed, it doesn't matter if your allies join you or not, half the pacific and indian ocean, the entire SCS will be ours
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ACs:
1st one: (active)
2nd one: (sea trial)

3rd one: (under testing for radar and electronics) likely under construction already:
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And many more ACs to come...

40+ 7,000~13,000 tons DDGs ready within next 5 years (Type 052C (6), 052D (20+), 051C (2), 055 (8+), Sovremenny-class (4), etc...):

Type 055 (13,000 tons)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_055_destroyer

Type 052D (7,500 tons)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_052D_destroyer

Type 052C (7,000 tons) , etc:
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32 type 054 frigates (4,000 tons) nearly completed, with 054B on the horizon:
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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...ontinued-total-production-of-32-ships.558961/

20+ more other types of frigates:
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Numerous(~60, 40 completed) type 056 corvette (1,500 tons) :
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70+ nuclear subs, AIP subs, etc
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numerous Landing ships, etc
Type 071 (25,000 tons)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_People's_Liberation_Army_Navy_ships

And so on...
 
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Con't...
And hundreds of missile boats:
Type 022 missile boat:
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15 DDGs being built simutaneously:
Dalian Shipyard 5×052D (7,500 tons) + 3×055 (13,000 tons) DDGs (April 2018)
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Jiangnan Shipyard 4×052D (7,500 tons) + 3×055 (12,000 tons) DDGs (Feb 2018)
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And don't forget our mighty air force! (currently with 1000+ 4th/5th Gen fighter Jets, and will reach 2,000+ within one decade...);

And numerous anti-ship BMs such as DF-21D and DF-26 etc:
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Ditched?? We never expected anything out of US anyway. Lol those weren't even major disputes to even consider help. Everything turns out perfectly.



Don't understand what are you implying here.



China now know that they can't counter PM Modi directly thats why they have started taking different approach. Though its too early to say anything about it.

Come back to reality, their presence in south asia is a 2 pronged approach to protect its BRI n to counter US zionist regime's hostility, india is not in the equation.
 
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Come back to reality, their presence in south asia is a 2 pronged approach to protect its BRI n to counter US zionist regime's hostility, india is not the equation.
Its neither US nor India its to protect oil trade routes from everyone thats why China is in Gwadar or Myanmar or Djibouti. Maldives or Sri Lanka are in supporting role for this cause. But now China is on losing side and India is at centre of it. Thats why change in China's policy, China will wait now keeping ok relations with India for the time being.

LOL now India boasts about a nine-front war against China, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Maldives, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Bhutan and Sikkim! :lol:
You guys are living in past this is not 2014, wake up. I will not try to educate what PM Modi has done so far cuz this is PDF. But you guys should read newspaper regularly first if trying to educate others.
 
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