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Ukrainian defense minister insists Russian troops fighting in Donbas


31.01.2015

Ukrainian Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak claims that Russian military servicemen are fighting against Ukrainian government forces in eastern Ukraine, although it is hard to identify them, as they bear no insignia or other identification signs.

"After the summer campaign, when we captured soldiers from the Russian armed forces, when we seized their hardware in which there were packing lists, technical certificates and [other] documents clearly indicating what military base it belongs to and where it is located and where this serviceman was born, now, as a rule, Russian military hardware and personnel entering Ukrainian territory are absolutely depersonalized," Poltorak said at a news briefing in Kyiv on Saturday.

"Those whom we capture have a DPR military ID in their left pocket and a Russian passport in the right one," Poltorak said, suggesting that this is done to mislead the international public and make it believe that there are no Russian troops in the Ukrainian territory.

Poltorak also said in response to a question from a journalist that he personally was ready "to provide assistance in acquiring Ukrainian citizenship" to foreigners who "have come to us and are defending our land."

Meanwhile, Chief of Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Viktor Muzhenko said recently that Ukrainian government forces were not fighting regular units of the Russian armed forces, although he said he possessed facts of involvement of individual Russian servicemen on the militia side.

"We have facts of involvement of Russian military servicemen, Russian citizens, in the fighting on the side of illegal armed units. We are not engaged in military actions with regular units of the Russian army," Muzhenko said at a meeting with military attaches of foreign countries accredited in Ukraine in Kyiv on Thursday.

Muzhenko claimed also that the Ukrainian military have "enough forces and resources to deal a final and even fatal blow to the illegal armed units."

A number of high-ranking Russian officials have repeatedly denied allegations of involvement of Russian military servicemen in the conflict in Donbas over the past several months. In particular, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said at a recent press conference in Moscow that these allegations were baseless. "I say every time: if you allege this so confidently, show the facts. But nobody can present facts, or they don't want to, which I don't know," Lavrov said.

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov yet again denied allegations by Ukrainian officials that Russian troops were fighting among the militia in a Friday statement.
 
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http://www.ukrinform.ua/eng/news/regular_russian_army_fighting_near_debaltseve___shkiriak_328690

KYIV, February 2 /Ukrinform/. Regular units of the Russian army participate in clashes near Debaltseve, and planning is performed by the senior officers of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces.

Adviser to the Interior Minister Zorian Shkiriak wrote this on his Facebook page.

"Concentration of Russian-terrorist forces continues on Debaltseve direction. After the enormous losses militants concentrate their reserve force here, transferring troops of mercenaries and heavy equipment from the rear and other directions of the front line. Regular units of the Russian army participate in the clashes near Debaltseve, and the planning is performed by the senior officers of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces," reads the post.

According to Shkiriak, terrorist attacks do not stop now. ATO forces retain their positions and withstand attacks of the aggressor. The enemy suffers considerable losses in manpower and equipment.

Russian conscripts ‘refusing to be sent to war in Ukraine’ : UNIAN news
The Saint Petersburg regional human rights organization Soldiers' Mothers of Saint Petersburg says it has received numerous complaints from Russian conscripts who are being forced to sign contracts, and then being sent to Russia’s Rostov region next to the Donbas conflict zone.
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http://www.ukrinform.ua/eng/news/us..._blind_eye_to_russian_tanks_in_ukraine_328840

KYIV, February 5 /Ukrinform/. The United States, as well as Europe and the Ukrainian President do not want a conflict with Russia.

This has been announced by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry at a joint press conference with President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko on Thursday, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

"I and the President of Ukraine have talked today on the greatest threat, which Ukraine faces, namely the fact that Russia continues its aggression in the east. We are not trying to start a conflict with Russia. Neither President Poroshenko, nor the President of the United States, nor the European Community wants that. That is not the point," Kerry said.

At the same time, he expressed hope that Russia would use diplomatic means to settle the situation in Donbas.

"However, we cannot turn a blind eye to the Russian tanks crossing the border of Ukraine, we cannot turn a blind eye to the Russian soldiers in unmarked forms crossing the border and supporting the separatists, despite all the commitments under the Minsk arrangements on cease-fire. We want a peaceful resolution," U.S. Secretary of State said.
 
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Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko shows passports of Russian soldiers to demonstrate the presence of Russian troops in the Ukraine as he speaks at the 51st Munich Security Conference (MSC) in Munich, southern Germany, on Feb. 7, 2015.
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8 feb 2015
Another proof of the Russian presence in the Donbas

Before last night near the settlement Ridkodub, Shakhtarsk Raion, Donetsk Oblast done martial clash of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with militants. As a result, our soldiers seized several rocket infantry flame throwers "Shmel".

- This weapon uses only the armed forces of the Russian Federation - said Oleg one of our soldiers who took part in the battle. - According to the label, the flamethrower was made in 2000.

According to Ukrainian soldier, our units, not after each battle trophies are made oboronpromom Russian. This small arms, and specific equipment, as well as tanks and combat vehicles. This is further proof of the Russian trace in the escalation of armed conflict in eastern Ukraine.

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These documents just took soldiers 128 th Mechanized Brigade of the corpses of Russian mercenaries, which was destroyed during the next battle. With passports shows that the battle for Debal'tsevo bridgehead involved citizens of the Russian Federation. In particular Eugenie Bugrov, born July 23, 1976, and registered in Tyumen.

According to Ukrainian soldiers Kremlin patrons feykovyh ideas of creating "Russian world" improved fraud in the case of hiding the presence of Russian citizens as part of the militants of terrorist organizations "FSC" and "NPT". For example, we have known Eugenie found in other documents he is a fighter "DNR". This is evidenced by the appropriate military ID. According to the soldier who killed this Russian mercenary Eugenie had modern specialized clothing Marines armed forces of the Russian Federation, and behaved on the battlefield as well-trained soldier.

It is also not clear where in other fighter neutralized "DNR" Ivan Mikhailovich Budrysa allegedly passport of a citizen of Ukraine, proof of insurance compulsory pension insurance of the Russian Federation made out to his name. This raises many questions.

Currently, the owners of these documents were lost. They put their lives on the idea of creating ghostly quasistates "FSC" and "NPT".

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well of course they are providing small arms and weapon systems, not sure about this pick though:
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reminds me a bit of this:
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and this:
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:sarcastic:
 
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We don't NEED the Russians to acknowledge that they are sending troops into Ukraine. We know it and they know it. As long as they're coming home in bags, I'm happy. :enjoy:
 
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We don't NEED the Russians to acknowledge that they are sending troops into Ukraine. We know it and they know it. As long as they're coming home in bags, I'm happy. :enjoy:
they're sending your fascist nazi puppets home in bags :enjoy:
 
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More than 5,000 civilians, Ukrainian soldiers and pro-separatist fighters have been killed since a separatist rebellion erupted in Ukraine's eastern territories in April. while more than 1,500 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed.

According to RT
“The death toll for the Ukrainian soldiers defending land from the aggressor is now 1,432. Thousands of people, 5,638, have been killed since April [2014] and every single day the number of victims among the civilians is rising,” Petro Poroshenko said in his address to the 51st Munich Security Conference on Saturday.

How many eastern Ukrainian seperatists have been killed ?
 
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they're sending your fascist nazi puppets home in bags :enjoy:


They aren't 'mine'. I hope they BOTH kick each others balls in. Just like the wars between India and Pakistan. F*ck 'em both !! Who cares about EITHER side in the end ? It's just funny to see that little retard Vladi stand there and lie when everyone knows.:enjoy:
 
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They aren't 'mine'. I hope they BOTH kick each others balls in. Just like the wars between India and Pakistan. F*ck 'em both !! Who cares about EITHER side in the end ? It's just funny to see that little retard Vladi stand there and lie when everyone knows.:enjoy:
who lies is mostly your state dept and media, they orchestrated an illegal coup and installed a puppet regime of extremist russophobe 'nazi' sell outs just like they've been doing in the middle east and around the world for years. Only this time, they messed with the wrong guy and master strategist Vladimir Putin. He's already made the USA/EU takeover of Ukraine a financially unviable proposition, hence the recent diplomatic scurry and panic by Merkel and Hollande. :enjoy:

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'financially unviable proposition' ? For who ? Look what happened to the Russian economy. The ruble. Where are they going to get their foreign investments from ? North Korea ? No one is going to invest in Vladis' Soviet Union 2.0. When do you think Vladi will start rebuilding the Berlin Wall ? :rofl:
 
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'financially unviable proposition' ? For who ? Look what happened to the Russian economy. The ruble. Where are they going to get their foreign investments from ? North Korea ? No one is going to invest in Vladis' Soviet Union 2.0. When do you think Vladi will start rebuilding the Berlin Wall ? :rofl:


Russia has plenty of food, water, industry, natural resources. Even if 1 US dollar = 1 trillion rubles it means NOTHING. If you want to beat Russia, come fight WW3. :p:
 
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