Putin, Erdogan agree on steps to mend relations

[HAIDER]

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (AP) — Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Tuesday after talks with Russia's President Vladimir Putin that the two nations can rebuild their damaged ties and make them even closer, promising to back major energy projects with Russia.

Calling Putin his "dear friend," Erdogan said Turkey is ready to implement a natural gas pipeline project with Russia and a deal to build Turkey's first nuclear power plant.

Putin, in his turn, said that the flow of Russian tourists to Turkey, halted after the downing of a Russian jet by Turkey in November, will resume. He also promised to gradually lift restrictions on imports of Turkish agricultural products.

Putin added that he and Erdogan would have a separate discussion on Syria later Tuesday involving top military and intelligence officials to search for common ground in the crisis, where Moscow and Ankara have backed the opposing sides.

While Moscow has backed Syrian President Bashar Assad throughout the nation's civil war and further bolstered that support by launching an air campaign last September, Turkey has backed Assad's foes.

Previously close ties between Moscow and Ankara broke down after a Turkish jet shot down a Russian warplane at the Syrian border. They remained at a freezing point for seven months until Erdogan met the key Russian condition for restoring ties by offering his apology over the incident.

Putin then ordered his government to start rebuilding ties with Turkey, and when Erdogan faced a botched coup attempt on July 15 the Russian leader quickly offered his support.

Erdogan particularly mentioned Putin's call, which he said "gladdened me, my colleagues and our people."

Analysts say that Erdogan may also be hoping to play the Russian card to strengthen his hand in disputes with the United States and European Union.

Turkey is pressing the United States hard to extradite Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen, whom the government blames for the failed coup. Gulen denies the claims.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...steps-to-mend-relations/ar-BBvqowI?li=BBnbcA1

 

[cloud4000]

Erdogan is looking east and away from the west. This is the future of Turkey. EU has made it clear it will never admit Turkey, or treat it as an equal.

Turkey is pressing the United States hard to extradite Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen, whom the government blames for the failed coup. Gulen denies the claims.

The extradition process may take years to sort out.

 

[HAIDER]

I don t think Turkish people are much interested looking away .They are much comfortable with West. Erdogan may try to change the Turkish foreign policy direction , but its matter time he will be back on track. Because, EU and US silence is kind of painful for Turkey. Turkish govt will try to resolve this issue quickly as possible.Turkey defence or business system is Western based from head to toe and its impossible to change.
For example , Erodogan was thinking about the revival of death penalty , but after EU objection, he through the matter in parliament.

 

[TurkeyForever]

EU is racist we don't need them, they think they are better.

Let us instead be totally independent like:
Japan
USA
South Korea
Australia
UK
Canada

If we join the EU all the gypsies in Romania and the poor in Poland will flood Turkey.

Fact is Turkey is richer than many european countries already, we don't need them.

We will beat the german economy in no time thanks to our position for all the new energy routes, which will increase now with the russian turk stream and the deal with Israel to transport their gas from Turkey to Europe:

Then...

"mining of borate minerals in Turkey, which possesses 72% of the world's known deposits."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron

We haven't even touched oil, gas and other resources on land and med and black sea.

Tourism 6h in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

Turkey is one of the few agriculturally self sufficient countries in the world, with top rankings worldwide in various fruit, vedgetable and nut exports.

There is more... but what I meantioned above is more than enough to become a regional super power.

 

[shhh]

EU is racist we don't need them, they think they are better.

Let us instead be totally independent like:
Japan
USA
South Korea
Australia
UK
Canada

If we join the EU all the gypsies in Romania and the poor in Poland will flood Turkey.

Fact is Turkey is richer than many european countries already, we don't need them.

We will beat the german economy in no time thanks to our position for all the new energy routes, which will increase now with the russian turk stream and the deal with Israel to transport their gas from Turkey to Europe:

Then...

"mining of borate minerals in Turkey, which possesses 72% of the world's known deposits."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron

We haven't even touched oil, gas and other resources on land and med and black sea.

Tourism 6h in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

Turkey is one of the few agriculturally self sufficient countries in the world, with top rankings worldwide in various fruit, vedgetable and nut exports.

There is more... but what I meantioned above is more than enough to become a regional super power.

Turkey is already a regional power, has been a super power and is destined to be a great power.

Best of luck Turkey.

If only Pakistan could learn from you.

Erdogan is looking east and away from the west. This is the future of Turkey. EU has made it clear it will never admit Turkey, or treat it as an equal.



The extradition process may take years to sort out.

You guys admit it today, we used to say it 10 years ago.

 

[damm1t]

EU is racist we don't need them, they think they are better.

Let us instead be totally independent like:
Japan
USA
South Korea
Australia
UK
Canada

If we join the EU all the gypsies in Romania and the poor in Poland will flood Turkey.

Fact is Turkey is richer than many european countries already, we don't need them.

We will beat the german economy in no time thanks to our position for all the new energy routes, which will increase now with the russian turk stream and the deal with Israel to transport their gas from Turkey to Europe:

Then...

"mining of borate minerals in Turkey, which possesses 72% of the world's known deposits."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron

We haven't even touched oil, gas and other resources on land and med and black sea.

Tourism 6h in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings

Turkey is one of the few agriculturally self sufficient countries in the world, with top rankings worldwide in various fruit, vedgetable and nut exports.

There is more... but what I meantioned above is more than enough to become a regional super power.

Cool down mate you just invented a new term; regional superpower. Turkey is a power in the region thats true but till our 2023 targets hit we can't say that we will beat Germany or smt. You need to be more realistic beside your nationalism.

For example , Erodogan was thinking about the revival of death penalty , but after EU objection, he through the matter in parliament.

From very beginning all he said was " If political parties agree on death penalty and send it to me I will sign it ". He just can't revive it by himself because of parliamentery system. More over he said about EU objections " The EU doesn't mean the whole world ". Please get your facts straight.

 

[HAIDER]

Cool down mate you just invented a new term; regional superpower. Turkey is a power in the region thats true but till our 2023 targets hit we can't say that we will beat Germany or smt. You need to be more realistic beside your nationalism.



From very beginning all he said was " If political parties agree on death penalty and send it to me I will sign it ". He just can't revive it by himself because of parliamentery system. More over he said about EU objections " The EU doesn't mean the whole world ". Please get your facts straight.

Argument was in regard to his previous speeches after the coup. You didn't understand.

 

[damm1t]

Argument was in regard to his previous speeches after the coup. You didn't understand.

I see you but I have listened all his arguments. He can't bring back the death penalty by himself.

 

[TurkeyForever]

Cool down mate you just invented a new term; regional superpower. Turkey is a power in the region thats true but till our 2023 targets hit we can't say that we will beat Germany or smt. You need to be more realistic beside your nationalism.

If things proceed at the current speed within 50 years we will beat Germany. That is more than realistic.

We will beat Spain and Italy within 20 years and France and UK within 30 years.

You can quote my post in 50 years

Look at South Korea, if after the Korean war they said South Korea would become such a success so fast no one would believe it. We are already on our way and have a lot of advantage.

Or Japan after being nuked twice.

Or Germany Or France after WW2.

It doesn't take that much time to become a success as a nation.

Regional super power is what we will become, somewhere between regional power and super power. We will be strong enough to challenge a super power but not strong enough to win such a fight, but strong enough to take over 5 regular countries without a problem.

Similar to hitlers Germany, he made Germany a regional super power and took over Poland, France and others easily but thought he was a super power so he lost.

If we make the right moves and integrate some countries from Balkan, Central Asia and ME in our territory we could become a super power, but this would take longer.

We will see what happens, outside factors could change everything, if USA and Russia would start a war with eachother and exchange a few nukes we could become a super power in just 10 years.

 

[Mucahit]

If things proceed at the current speed within 50 years we will beat Germany. That is more than realistic.

We will beat Spain and Italy within 20 years and France and UK within 30 years.

You can quote my post in 50 years

Look at South Korea, if after the Korean war they said South Korea would become such a success so fast no one would believe it. We are already on our way and have a lot of advantage.

Or Japan after being nuked twice.

Or Germany Or France after WW2.

It doesn't take that much time to become a success as a nation.

Regional super power is what we will become, somewhere between regional power and super power. We will be strong enough to challenge a super power but not strong enough to win such a fight, but strong enough to take over 5 regular countries without a problem.

Similar to hitlers Germany, he made Germany a regional super power and took over Poland, France and others easily but thought he was a super power so he lost.

If we make the right moves and integrate some countries from Balkan, Central Asia and ME in our territory we could become a super power, but this would take longer.

We will see what happens, outside factors could change everything, if USA and Russia would start a war with eachother and exchange a few nukes we could become a super power in just 10 years.

What you are saying is more a daydream for Turkey right now.

How are we gonna become super power when we can't even defeat or at least minimize the terror threat in our country?

My hope for future is simple :

-Clean the country from terrorists completely(not even on the mountains or N.lraq)
-Establish a strong and stable economy to compete with Germany or France.
-More welfare for ordinary citizens.
-Establish a practical and strong Education system.
-Modernize the army from it's current state.
-Get more influence over Middle East and Central Asia.


if these things happen people will respect us, becoming a super power is nothing but a dream.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

-More welfare for ordinary citizens.

No, please, simply no. Turkey should not become a "social state".

 

[Mucahit]

No, please, simply no. Turkey should not become a "social state".

What i mean is better conditions, what does that have to do with social state?

ln Turkey, rich people get more richer every day and poor people get worse...This should change.

There are some good & decent neighborhoods in every city but that's just 1 or 2...

 

[TurkeyForever]

No, please, simply no. Turkey should not become a "social state".

Totally agree this is the main reason many EU countries are failing and many immigrants and refugees taking advantage of the system making these countries poorer.

One of the main reason Turkey succeeds is because in Turkey people know they need to work and study hard or they will end up in the street without food. If you give people the option to get free money many will choose not to work and choose the lazy option and on top of that many will immigrate to Turkey from ME, east europe and Asia to get free money too. (which is the case in EU right now)

Turkeys immigration text should clearly say:
No Money, No Honey

 

[FlyCheatter]

We will see what happens, outside factors could change everything, if USA and Russia would start a war with eachother and exchange a few nukes we could become a super power in just 10 years.

...sure...unfortunate matter though, that such an exchenge you wish could happen on the territory of ... turkey (just to remind history - in all war plans between US and USSR - battlefild was territory of europe, kinda "nice" ,isn't it, both sides know that it's so suicidal to start a direct war trying to bomb each other territory directly, but limited war in europe/tyrky an such proxies could burn in limited nuke fire ... which was "ok" to those two...one would when claim a vicory in there )... so keap dreaming about "regional superpower" (LOL, me reckon why not "the interstelar superpower), though reality is very different...

 

[TurkeyForever]

What you are saying is more a daydream for Turkey right now.

How are we gonna become super power when we can't even defeat or at least minimize the terror threat in our country?

My hope for future is simple :

-Clean the country from terrorists completely(not even on the mountains or N.lraq)
-Establish a strong and stable economy to compete with Germany or France.
-More welfare for ordinary citizens.
-Establish a practical and strong Education system.
-Modernize the army from it's current state.
-Get more influence over Middle East and Central Asia.


if these things happen people will respect us, becoming a super power is nothing but a dream.

What you are saying is easy, a few tweaks and we will be at that point.

We need more ambition and aim for the sky so even if we fail we will be on top of everest.