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All was well until the dog showed up. :tdown:

You are going to grown into an insufferable crotchety old man dude.

Do you know that Parsis fought the British in full blown riots in Bombay not once but twice because they started poisoning stray dogs in the city?

This was in the 1800s I think. Or maybe early 1900s.

Like the cats are religious for you guys, dogs are the mirrors and keepers of the other side for us.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Poona is a fun city.

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I managed to grab few packs of bhakarwadi last week on swiggy :smitten:
can't wait to meet my friends in Pune.
 
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At least they maintained some social distance. Plus her mum was wearing a mask.

I saw a similar video of some Pakistani's in the UK, and they had formed a large crowd and were hugging the guy who came back, who was clearly still very weak. :hitwall:
 
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You are going to grown into an insufferable crotchety old man dude.

Maybe it is that. I seem to be turning into a sanki young fellow. :lol:

Do you know that Parsis fought the British in full blown riots in Bombay not once but twice because they started poisoning stray dogs in the city?

This was in the 1800s I think. Or maybe early 1900s.

What was the reasoning of the Britishers ?

Like the cats are religious for you guys

Religion is second. I have a natural affinity with cats.

dogs are the mirrors and keepers of the other side for us.

Why ?

everybody beats covid, big deal.

Many have died too.

you disappoint greatly with your hatred of doggos.

"Doggos" ? There was a case in Bangalore where a small boy after having been attacked by dogs, would wake up from sleep screaming "doggies".

I saw a similar video of some Pakistani's in the UK, and they had formed a large crowd and were hugging the guy who came back, who was clearly still very weak. :hitwall:

You think he would be still carrying the virus ?
 
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Bombay Dog Riots
Bombay Dog Riots
Location

Mumbai, India
Caused by Culling of stray dogs by the Bombay Magistrates of Police
Goals Stop the mass-culling of dogs
Methods Civil disobedience, boycotting, rioting
Resulted in Several arrests, Magistrate policy towards dog culling changed to allow for dog relocation
Parties to the civil conflict
Mumbai parsis, muslims and hindus. British garrison, Bombay Magistrates of Police
Number
Several thousand protesters Several hundred garrison soldiers and city officials
Casualties
Injuries
several
Arrested several

The Bombay Dog Riots, also known as the 1832 Bombay Riots, were a series of protest actions that devolved into rioting in the city of Mumbai, India. The riots were sparked by an attempt by the British government to exterminate the city's stray dogs, controversial for Parsis due to dogs being considered sacred in the Zoroastrian religion. The event was the first instance of rioting in the modern history of Mumbai.

History[edit]
Background[edit]
Mumbai, known as Bombay until the late 20th century, has long been a center for trade and commerce in Western India. Due to the city's important position at the mouth of four rivers, the city became a haven for both domestic and foreign merchant communities.[1] One such group was the Parsis, whom had fled Persia in the aftermath of the Muslim conquest of Persia in the 7th century.[2] The Parsis followed the teachings of the Prophet Zoroaster, and subscribed to Iranian Zoroastrianism. Once in Bombay, the Parsis quickly ingrained themselves into the city's thriving trade network; thus, the Parsi population of the city grew wealthy and influential.[2] They also developed their own sub-sect of Zoroastrianism which melded Persian and Indian beliefs.[3]

Beginning in the 16th century, European powers began to send merchants and soldiers to India to take control of local trade. Bombay was taken by the Portuguese in 1534, who held the city until the British East India Company took control of the port in 1661. Whereas the Portuguese had used Bombay as a trade outpost in India, the East India Company chose instead to invest company funds in developing the city. In addition, the British began a policy (formulated by Gerald Aungier, the 2nd Governor of Bombay[4]) of cooperation with Bombay's merchant communities by offering them protection and business incentives; one of the groups that took advantage of this was the Parsis, who were sometimes referred to as the Shetias.[3] The Parsis and the British administration were noted as having gotten along well, as many Parsis were employed by the British administration and the British allowed the practice of the Parsi faith in Bombay. By 1826, around 10,000 Parsis lived in Bombay, which had a total population of 200,000.[3]

Riots[edit]
In 1832, the British-administered magistrate of police decided to adopt measures to control the city's stray dog population. The city was filled with so-called "Pariah dogs", which were seen by authorities as a nuisance and a threat to public safety.[3] A regulation had been in place since 1813 that allowed for the killing of owner-less dogs during the hottest parts of the Bombay summer (15 April - 15 May, and 15 September - 15 October[3]); the new regulation would extend the first period of culling from 15 May to 15 June. The change in the regulation was not controversial, but the Magistrate also chose to adopt new methods to cull the dog population. Most significantly, it was decided that a bounty would be paid for each dog killed. This new policy resulted in unscrupulous or overzealous dog catchers killing dogs that were not overly aggressive; it was also reported that dog catchers were invading homes and killing private pets.[3]

A backlash formed against the dog culling policy. As noted by the contemporary Bombay Courier, the city magistrate was seen by Bombay's Indian population as overusing its power.[3] The Parsi community was particularity offended, as the extended culling period meant that the slaughter coincided with a Parsi holy day; furthermore, some Parsis revered dogs as objects of religious significance and began to protest the magistrate's efforts. On 6 June, a crowd of Parsis attacked a group of dog catchers near Bombay's fort and then marched on the city's court to demand an end to the culling.[3] The next day, many in the Parsi community closed their businesses, causing economic chaos in the city. Lower class Parsis and a collection of Hindus and Muslims went on strike, paralyzing more of the city's day-to-day activities.[3] When word circulated that the British were mobilizing the city's garrison, the Parsis organized crowds to block porters and laborers in a successful attempt to prevent the British troops from receiving food and water. In the evening, the British garrison gathered in the city's fort and the Riot Act was read aloud; the crowd was subsequently broken up, and the leaders of the strike were arrested. The British government then began to negotiate with the leaders of the Parsi community in an attempt to return order to the city. It was decided that, rather than cull stray dogs on sight, the Magistrate would instead try to relocate dogs outside of the city. This was done, and the imprisoned protesters were released as they had not had a political motivation for striking.[3][5]

Aftermath[edit]
The year after the riots, the new dog culling policy resulted in many of the animals being relocated to the outskirts of Bombay.[3] The event also increased the already-prevalent influence of the Parsi community in Bombay.[3]

@jamahir

Cheers, Doc
 
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You think he would be still carrying the virus ?

Maybe not, but he was very weak (I'll try and find the video) and also any one of those people in the crowd could have it and not know. In a close crowd where nobody was wearing masks etc, they could have transmitted it to someone else.
 
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It was decided that, rather than cull stray dogs on sight, the Magistrate would instead try to relocate dogs outside of the city.

That would be advisable even now but we must consider that ( according to a previous year's count ) there are 35+ million stray dogs in India. What would be the compromise solution ? Can't some be culled and the remaining be relocated to some forest reserve or an India-controlled island ?
 
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That would be advisable even now but we must consider that ( according to a previous year's count ) there are 35+ million stray dogs in India. What would be the compromise solution ? Can't some be culled and the remaining be relocated to some forest reserve or an India-controlled island ?

Cant some undesirable humans who are a risk to society be culled and the remaining relocated to some forest reserve or a remote island with monthly supply boats?

Cheers, Doc
 
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Cant some undesirable humans who are a risk to society be culled and the remaining relocated to some forest reserve or a remote island with monthly supply boats?

Cheers, Doc

Some typical MBA, the likes of whom have been responsible in driving Indian farmers to suicide, I would like them to be put to useful work in some coal mine.

And the owners of those harmful microfinance companies who employ those MBAs, I would like them to be culled. A blue collar criminal might be doing crime out of necessity but a white collar criminal does it out of choice.
 
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Some typical MBA, the likes of whom have been responsible in driving Indian farmers to suicide, I would like them to be put to useful work in some coal mine.

And the owners of those harmful microfinance companies who employ those MBAs, I would like them to be culled. A blue collar criminal might be doing crime out of necessity but a white collar criminal does it out of choice.

I don't want anyone to be culled. Dog or human.

I see no position of me as a human to decide whether a dog lives or dies.

I would violently attack any human who mistreats an animal except for food.

I would not come between any animal and it's food.

The food chain is natural and you and I are part of it.

Cheers, Doc
 
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I would violently attack any human who mistreats an animal except for food.

Therefore you should take action against people like Maneka Gandhi who have been the direct cause of the almost-extinct status of cats in India. You have cats in your house but the general Indian street is bereft of them. This should be apparent to anyone.

Watch this trailer of of a documentary called Kedi which is about the cats of Istanbul. Unlike Indian cities where dogs run free, in Istanbul it is cats.

The food chain is natural and you and I are part of it.

Cats are not anyone's food except for some big snakes, the tree crab etc. Dogs kill cats not for food but mostly for fun and of course an ancient feud. In an ideal human city cats should be the prominent part. Medieval European religion practice was to kill cats by torture. They had noted that the Medieval European Muslims preferred cats to the Christian who liked dogs. But the Christians learned that killing cats opened them up to spread of disease by rats. Also important was that slow tolerance of cats and then adoption of them also enabled them to adopt the ways of the cat - calmness and wisdom. You tell me, with all the 35+ million stray dogs in India, is our society one of calmness and wisdom ?
 
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