PTI & PAT too Weak

[Asian.Century]

Are PAT & PTI seem too weak to dislodge this corrupt govt and partner parties allies to its final knees ??

There are lot of complaints that Imran Khan is REPETITIVE, Nothing new to bring to ppl, and always Mein, Mein, Mein ?

Civil Disobedience was a disaster strategy plan...less people coming to dharna....... Tahir ul Qadri's deadline after deadlines was also a Disaster with too much death threats.

PTI & PAT needs plans, Plan A, Plan B, and Plan Cs...thats is, media strategy, ---- try to bring all Pakistani institutions and the 180 million over there side...All FOUR Provinces including Gilgit/Baltistan and FATA needs to get more engaged with protests spreading all over Pakistan.

Advent of Pak Military to resolve this deepening political crisis, the biggest ever in Pakistan to challenge status quo is a great thing....it is a positive thing to stop any bloodshed and civil war. Further ISI, Pak Army positive role needed to bring real Democracy in Pakistan must be welcomed.

What other deadly strategies PAT and PTI and other coalition parties need to move further to the climax?

Army's and Supreme Court's Role is now crucial to EXPOSE PMLN, PPP AND JUI, ANP ETC GOVERNMENTS !!!

 

[SBD-3]

They are no weak, they lost out whatever they could get in an effort to achieve something which was unrealistic.

 

[ranjeet]

Are PAT & PTI seem too weak to dislodge this corrupt govt and partner parties allies to its final knees ??

There are lot of complaints that Imran Khan is REPETITIVE, Nothing new to bring, and always Mein, Mein, Mein ?

Civil Disobedience was a disaster strategy plan...less people coming to dharna....... Tahir ul Qadri's deadline after deadlines was also a Disaster with too much death threats.

PTI & PAT needs plans, Plan A, Plan B, and Plan Cs...thats is, media strategy, ---- try to bring all Pakistani institutions and the 120 million over there side...All FOUR Provinces including Gilgit/Baltistan and FATA needs to get more engaged with protesters spreading all over Pakistan.

Advent of Pak Military to resolve this deepening political crisis, the biggest ever in Pakistan to challenge status quo is a great thing....it is a positive thing to stop any bloodshed and civil war.

What other deadly strategies PAT and PTI and other coalition parties need to move further to the climax?

Army's and Supreme Court's Role is now crucial to EXPOSE PMLN, PPP AND JUI, ANP ETC GOVERNMENTS !!!

The best thing this Nawaz govt did was, not to use force to quell this march. PAT n PTI were hoping that some sort of force would be used and they can cry over the dead bodies of their dead activists. Eventually the crowd with thin and go back to where it came from.

 

[Asian.Century]

The best thing this Nawaz govt did was, not to use force to quell this march. PAT n PTI were hoping that some sort of force would be used and they can cry over the dead bodies of their dead activists. Eventually the crowd with thin and go back to where it came from.

yeah but the 14 Model town killings, 85 injured, of Qadri's PAT and rigging charges the govt cannot escape. It is stuck in it.

But there is lot of noise and shout from PTI and PAT without real ground work, tactics and long term forward plan yet .

 

[SBD-3]

The best thing this Nawaz govt did was, not to use force to quell this march. PAT n PTI were hoping that some sort of force would be used and they can cry over the dead bodies of their dead activists. Eventually the crowd with thin and go back to where it came from.

Aside from that, the reason why the crowds went thiner was that what started with concrete objectives, reduced to personal agendas. I said it again and again, I don't want IK to be walking out a loser out of this march because he is a political option for Pakistan. Government should give him the best face saving possible. But he went suicidal on all the stakeholders.

yeah but the 14 Model town killings, 85 injured, of Qadri's PAT and rigging charges the govt cannot escape. It is stuck in it.

But there is lot of noise and shout from PTI and PAT without real ground work, tactics and long term forward plan yet .

And what about 85+ injured in RWP and 287 on Youm'e Shuhada, not counting the burnt down property? two wrongs doesn't make one right.

 

[ranjeet]

yeah but the 14 Model town killings, 85 injured, of Qadri's PAT and rigging charges the govt cannot escape. It is stuck in it.

But there is lot of noise and shout from PTI and PAT without real ground work and tactics yet .

Didn't the Qadari's guys had huge nails on there lath/sticks? that can be brushed aside, not that hard to find a fall guy for that episode, but this particular march of Qadari was for to take dead bodies so that he can some chips to play with. Nawaz has been a wily fox in dealing with this situation, if only he hadn't called in the army for talks. But still not a bad showing from him.

Aside from that, the reason why the crowds went thiner was that what started with concrete objectives, reduced to personal agendas. I said it again and again, I don't want IK to be walking out a loser out of this march because he is a political option for Pakistan. Government should give him the best face saving possible. But he went suicidal on all the stakeholders.

I don't know if you can accept it or not but IK got played big time, he went for a six when he could have easily chased down the score in singles. to explain in cricketing terms.

 

[Asian.Century]

Aside from that, the reason why the crowds went thiner was that what started with concrete objectives, reduced to personal agendas. I said it again and again, I don't want IK to be walking out a loser out of this march because he is a political option for Pakistan. Government should give him the best face saving possible. But he went suicidal on all the stakeholders.

And what about 85+ injured in RWP and 287 on Youm'e Shuhada, not counting the burnt down property?

I agree to an extent, PTI and PAT hurried alot, deadline after deadline, they need to show patience and make concrete plans, join allies, and ASSAULT !!

Bro if these pmln, pppp, mehmood khan achkazai party, Fazul ur Rehman JI, JUI-F etc stay in power, its a disaster for Pakistan and especially pmln in punjab. Pakistan is finishing with these highly incompetent, corrupt and thieves....we are a doomed nation with these parties, trust me !!!

Punjabis and Paktoons are supporting in big big numbers both PTI, PAT....ITS AN OPPORTUNITY NOT BE MISSED....only truth and justice will win in the end.

 

[SBD-3]

I agree to an extent, PTI and PAT hurried alot, deadline after deadline, they need to patience and make concrete plans, join allies, and ASSAULT !!

Bro if these pmln, pppp, mehmood khan achkazai party, Fazul ur Rehman JI, JUI-F etc stay in power, its a disaster for Pakistan and especially pmln in punjab. Pakistan is finishing with these highly incompetent, corrupt and thieves....we are a doomed nation with these parties, trust me !!!

Chalo its good that competent people will live happily in Canada, unless another "Inqilab" is needed in Pakistan.

 

[Norwegian]

PTI and PAT are not weak. They are getting media coverage 24/7. People are burning their unreasonable gas, electricity bills. Not paying tax on toll plazas. Change is already here. Its Nooras that are weak now after recent COAS debacle.

Punjabis and Paktoons are supporting in big big numbers both PTI, PAT....ITS AN OPPORTUNITY NOT BE MISSED....only truth and justice will win in the end.

Problem with PTI is that they have mostly urban support not rural except KPK. I don't know how but PTI must increase its influence in thousands of villages and towns across Punjab which are currently owned by Nooras.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

The best thing this Nawaz govt did was, not to use force to quell this march. PAT n PTI were hoping that some sort of force would be used and they can cry over the dead bodies of their dead activists. Eventually the crowd with thin and go back to where it came from.

It was musical concert or festival. Neither leaders nor participants were serious. They were just making fool of themselves with deadlines after deadlines

 

[Asian.Century]

PTI and PAT are not weak. They are getting media coverage 24/7. People are burning their unreasonable gas, electricity bills. Not paying tax on toll plazas. Change is already here. Its Nooras that are weak now after recent COAS debacle.

The army debacle and LIE by Govt has been exposed brilliantly by Qadri and IK....what Army did was the best response in the interest of nation...PTI and PAT won there...but alot more needs to be done.

Problem with PTI is that they have mostly urban support not rural except KPK. I don't know how but PTI must increase its influence in thousands of villages and towns across Punjab which are currently owned by Nooras.

If you notice, the people of Punjab are more in PTI dharnas in Isloo as the Punjabis comes everyday from Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Murree daily to have fun, music and listen to PTI leadership speeches....problem is ppl who came from KPK have mostly gone back for work, jobs, livelihood etc. PAT crowd stands because of their continuous commitment and I heard they are paid Rs 1000 daily to eat, drink, food and wear.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

PTI and PAT are not weak. They are getting media coverage 24/7. People are burning their unreasonable gas, electricity bills. Not paying tax on toll plazas. Change is already here. Its Nooras that are weak now after recent COAS debacle.

Its change or destruction of your own country lol
Media needed some news and fun and qadri and imran provided them plenty in this azadi or iqalaab march

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

 

[Norwegian]

Its change or destruction of your own country lol

Ever heard of the phrase: No taxation without representation? If not google it. Hint: United States came out of it.

 

[Asian.Century]

PTI and PAT are not weak. They are getting media coverage 24/7.

Yes Media and Social Media coverage on forums etc is 24/7....but media coverage is not the only thing..media coverage cannot resolve this crisis alone...it certainly helps where the.govt and its allies made blunders, lies, exposed badly today, but WHAT NEXT, ANOTHER DEADLINE another THREAT NO REAL POLITIK, ITS A LONG TERM THING...

The army, supreme court, ppl of pakistan need to be more active !!!