I have a few questions for you and I want you to answer these as a human, not as a member of any party or sect. I am sure you have a family, friends, parents, kids or something like that?. Let's see what clay you are made out of.
I hold no affiliation with PTI or any other political party. What I post here is all in my personal capacity and is my personal opinion. And I don't believe in sects.
Assuming ALL of the above you wrote is true, assuming the high courts, the supreme courts, the government, the accountability offices, the international community that watched the election, ALL are corrupted and have taken money from the current government (sounds like a fool's paradise to me). But assuming all this is right..........do you think your leadership or leader should resort to threats and violence? Or to call for these hate protests next month where I am almost certain some people will get killed as the government won't allow you to destroy public property and peace?
Frankly I should stop right here after reading this part of your post. But I am still going to reply you since you are a decent poster.
Who told you about that red part? I never said this, IK never said this, non of PTI's members or leaders have ever said this. Watch dunya news transmission right after election results. He congratulated PML-N on their victory and accepted the defeat. IK also congratulated N-Leauge and accepted elections, formed govt in KPK in good spirit and became part of this democratic process. PTI just refused to accept election rigging and demanded votes recount in just 4 constituencies as test bed to find what level of rigging took place, who did it and how they managed to do it? Please stop making things up by your own.
About second half of your above comment. Today its over 14 months since elections 2013 were held and since PTI has demanded votes recount in 4 constituenceis. For around 10 - 12 months, there was practically no major protest from PTI, all they did was pursue the cases legally in ECP, SC, Election Tribunal and in National Assembly. But when PTI was refused from Justice from all of them, they started
PEACEFUL protests merely 2 - 3 months ago. Where is the so called violence part? Can you quote me one instance where PTI did violence while protesting against election rigging? If you can't, then please stop lying.
In all over the world, people demand their rights if they are refused, and its govt and other concerned national institutions (ECP, SC etc) who listen to their demands and try to address them politically and peacefully. But in this case, PTI is not only denied by their legal right to demand votes recount, but instead Govt is threatening them almost every day in one way or another. Govt is not only willing to listen to them or address their concerns, but Govt is all up to make a conflict with them by using force. Look at the tone of Saad Rafique, Pervez Rasheed, Rana Sanaullah, Kh Asif etc. Have they fcking lost their minds? Or are we living under some sort of Nazi govt? Is this the democracy we brag about all the time where people are not only denied from their legal rights, but on top of it, they are been operessed and threatened?
Do you think a good leader, who cares for its people will order such a gathering that has about 90% changes of turning violent, resulting in poor innocent people getting killed? What kind of leader is it that's playing with people's lives like freaking ants, while he gets to sit inside a bullet proof vehicle????
PTI has done rallies at D-Chawk before,
peacefully. PTI announced this 14 august rally at D-Chawk first. Its govt who instead of allowing them their right to protest, announced 14th Aug ceremony at same place just to create a conflict and fuel violence. If Govt was so much concerned about 14 Aug celebrations then, please pray tell me how they celebrated last 14th Aug? When we last time had military parade at 14th Aug? Usually military parade happens at 6th September at defense day, no military parades are done at 14th August Independence day. Usually 14 August celebrations are done inside Assembly Hall not in D-Chawk. Go figure it out.
What moral or religious grounds can you satisfy this rational? Does Islam tell you to risk ordinary people's lives when you can avoid it or does the society tell you that?
Then what moral or religious grounds govt has to intentionally create a conflict like situation at D-Chawk by announcing an event right at the same place where a protest is already announced? Does Islam tell the govt of an Islamic republic to create a direct confrontation with its own general public? Or does our society enables our govt to do so?
And by doing such violent activities, you are scaring off people who have put money in your country for it to be successful. By scaring much needed investment off, are you serving your national interest? Shouldn't this be treason that you or whoever, for your personal agenda, are knowingly playing with innocent people's lives and 200 million people's future who deserve to live better?
You entire argument is flawed, its govt who is doing all this, but you have placed all your guns at wrong end.
So let's do this, personal insults don't solve anything. Let's see, how about we discuss productively as to who is doing the work, let's list out some major projects that are being undertaken by the current government. I don't want to see propaganda, I want to see facts that are verified. Let's bring out a list of things and see how they are doing and how the current government is helping an average person by building infrastructure, schools, education, the economy, the job opportunity, investments, better health, etc, etc??? This should be a propaganda free, emotion free debate. You can ALSO respectfully outline where corruption happened and who was caught and what people who knew about it, did to reach out to the law. I think at the end of this, we'll know what's going on and how much f'd up really the government is.....OR, how f*d up are the people with certain agenda who've lost respect for their own country and they are making their society look like a propaganda fool in front of me and other foreign readers.
That's more like it, go open a thread for this and ping me there. And I am going to give you a handicap my friend.
Please name the sectors you want to compare. You are going to list the developments of N-League in those sectors in their 30 years long rule in Punjab, while I am going to list the developments of PTI in same sectors in their just one year rule in KPK.
This is what happen , when you want results in your favor only,..... there are some constituencies where recounting happened due to PTI call, but the result didn't changed.. now GOV can keep on doing it to satisfy one party... PTI never gets satisfy ever ... so , with PTI mentality, they want results on their terms only, they have never ack. results against them ...
Actually PTI is not Establishments party , its the political face of same group who is supporting TTP from back channels
that is why IK is always against operation in FATA ...
He is speaking ill of arrangements for IDPs ... Fact is IDPs are suffering but thats is the cost we all have to pay...
IK is just doing what NS/BB used to do in 90s ... he is just a new kid on the block and want to implement his agenda ..
See his statements now, meeting Inqalabi people, parsing Zardari ... Baba jee of Rehman Malik, IK is doing everything to get into the power ... Shame on him , and Shame on people who support such a clown ...
There is difference my dear friend. One is a petition by one individual candidate in his own constituency in which he contested. Other is a petition by a political party for thumb verification in 4 constituencies, by a party who is second largest party in the country.
What is done so far is, few petitions got solved which were filed by few candidates in their own capacity. Even among these petitions, go check the votes recount results of NA-256 and NA-118
And nothing has been done about the 4 constituencies PTI is demanding to open since day one.
