Protesters gather at Musharraf political rally

[scrumpy]

Why is a political party of Pakistan being launched in the United Kingdom?

First the PPP rally, then Musharaf's party.
Is it just me who thinks this is weird?

 

[Spring Onion]

Why is a political party of Pakistan being launched in the United Kingdom?

First the PPP rally, then Musharaf's party.
Is it just me who thinks this is weird?

Because he is in UK so obviously he is going to announce it.

The time was ripe for announcement and since he can not suddenly come back so it was better to announce it at a time when the public is disappointed with all shades of politicians in Pakistan.

As far PPP rally and Zardari visit is concerned it was pure .shyt.

he was suppose to be in Pakistan and visit the flood victims instead of wasting national wealth on promoting his son

 

[scrumpy]

Any such action by an Indian political party would be a political suicide. People would interpret such actions it as an attempt at the former colonial power to regain control of the country. I suspect most other countries in the world would look at such actions with suspicion. Therefore it comes as a surprise to me that Pakistanis seem to be so relaxed about it.

 

[Spring Onion]

Any such action by an Indian political party would be a political suicide. People would interpret such actions it as an attempt at the former colonial power to regain control of the country. I suspect most other countries in the world would look at such actions with suspicion. Therefore it comes as a surprise to me that Pakistanis seem to be so relaxed about it.

We dont think anything of the sort. it doesnt matter where they announce. what matters is that politicians sucks big time and we dont trust them much

 

[Qasim_Yousuf]

Musharraf faces slew of court cases in pakistan....they include corruption,murder,human rights violation cases....I am sure if he returns to pakistan he will be convicted....that's why he is staying in London.....he doesn't have the guts to return to pakistan

 

[Spring Onion]

Musharraf faces slew of court cases in pakistan....they include corruption,murder,human rights violation cases....I am sure if he returns to pakistan he will be convicted....that's why he is staying in London.....he doesn't have the guts to return to pakistan

all these attributes are also linked to Zardari and Nawaz and oh well BLA elements who are in the govt

 

[Kambojaric]

How is Musharraf any different from Zardari, Nawaz? Just an honest question.

 

[Spring Onion]

How is Musharraf any different from Zardari, Nawaz? Just an honest question.

I cant say what he has in store or how he will behave or act.

He surely has some skills.

As far as politics is concerned he has little chance to come to power in this feudalised political system.


The only thing which is funny and amusing that every tom and harry is trying to prove that Musharraf has no right to enter politics

 

[Qasim_Yousuf]

all these attributes are linked to Zardari and Nawaz and oh well BLA elements who are in the govt

were you living in a cave when Musharraf ruled pakistan for 9 years??

 

[Spring Onion]

were you living in a cave when Musharraf ruled pakistan for 9 years??

No i was on visit to Indian slums

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

do you really think this khalifa idea is applicable in today's world?

Dear Ahmad... That could side track the whole thread... but just to make a quick statement in relation to the thread itself... even though I dont belong to their party I say well done to Hizb Ut Tahrir for protesting against Busharaf... I would just love to see his face when he realizes how influential the Hizb is becoming in Pakistan since the time he was first harassed by them in London during a speech and later when he banned the group in Pakistan... lol

As for your question... my answer would be... wait and see

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

How is Musharraf any different from Zardari, Nawaz? Just an honest question.

Good question... Its difficult to differentiate between three donkeys of the same species...

or is it dogs?

I think its neither because donkeys and dogs are useful animals...

maybe they are snakes... perhaps its the type of venom that they have... Zardari produces a muscle toxin... Nawaz produces a nerve toxin... and Busharaf stops the heart...

Hope that answers the question

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Hizb e Tehrir idealogy equals Nazi'ism
Not khilafa..read again!

and pray tell us what is the difference... common sense would state that if they were Nazis they would be demanding Nazism in the Muslim world... not Khilafa

I ll tell you what is closer to Nazism in the Muslim world... The brutality and oppression of the Royal House of Al Saud...

Interestingly I visited one of the Hizb Ut Tahrir's sites after this... They have posted a message to the armed forces of Pakistan...

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No democracy, no dictatorship, no bloody revolution
SUNDAY, 03 OCTOBER 2010 11:54
بِسْمِ الله الرَّحمَنِ الرَحيم

No democracy, no dictatorship, no bloody revolution

The establishment of the Khilafah is real change

Today, throughout Pakistan, there is talk of revolution and change, in the houses, offices, factories, streets and public places, amongst the elite and the masses. The Muslims are enraged at the oppressor rulers for their numerous crimes against Islam and Muslims. Tens of millions of Muslims, within the flood hit areas and outside of them, are denied their basic economic needs because of the rulers' implementation of the exploitative capitalist economic system, despite the immense resources of Pakistan, including coal, gold and copper and despite the fact that their deen, Islam, has an economic system that for over a millennium was the admiration of the world. Despite Pakistan having the world's seventh largest armed forces, the Muslims are plunged into insecurity through the oppressor rulers' giving America a free hand within Pakistan, with bombings in the public places organized by American private military organizations and US drone attacks collapsing the house on the heads of the Muslims in the tribal areas. And despite the Muslims adhering and sacrificing for Islam over centuries, the rulers are undermining the noble Islamic values by allowing the colonialist institutions to defile the education syllabus, under the banner of education reform, and Western companies to propagate their ****** culture, under the banner of marketing and cultural festivals.

Pakistan's current capitalist system is only here to serve the kaafir colonialists and their agents. For over half a century, the Westerner installs rulers who implement kufr and the Muslims despise them. When the Muslims' hatred reaches their throats and spills over into a strong public opinion, obstructing the agent ruler from implementing the will of his masters, the kuffar colonialists become active to release the pressure on the system by dumping their agent and installing a new agent, whether by elections or coup. And each shameless agent knows that it is his job to blame the previous ruler for as long as he can and then make room for the next when he is exposed. This is how Musharraf came and went, how Zardari came and how he may go and so on. This is why the people realize that elections in the current system will only bring more oppression. And this is also why the people have lost confidence in the current system and current political leaderships that compete to enter it, whether democrats or dictators.

No real change can come through the current system, ever. This colonialist system can never be reformed, improved or bring any good for the Muslims. This system will always oppress the ruled for the sake of the rulers because in essence the current system is a kufr system which is built upon implementing the whims and desires of the colonialist masters and the agent rulers, whether the rulers are a dictator and his entourage or an entire assembly of parliamentarians or even a group of technocrats and "clean politicians." It is a system of whims and desires to exploit the ruled and deny them of their rights and the blessings that Allah سبحانه و تعالى bestowed upon them, even though Allah سبحانه و تعالى said,

فَاحْكُمْ بَيْنَهُمْ بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ وَلاَ تَتَّبِعْ أَهْوَاءَهُمْ عَمَّا جَاءَكَ مِنْ الْحَقِّ

"And rule between them by all that which Allah revealed to you, and do not follow their vain desires away from the truth which came to you." [Al-Mai'dah 5:48]

O Muslims of Pakistan!

Only the Khilafah will bring real change because it is a system built on implementing the laws revealed by Allah سبحانه و تعالى. It is the system that implements what is right, denies what is wrong and protects the ruled from oppression and injustice because of the whims and desires, likes and dislikes, of a few. It protects the people by ensuring that only the Lord of the Worlds decides what is Good and Bad, right and wrong, legal and illegal, and thus the corrupt agents and their colonialist masters cannot exploit the masses. Allah سبحانه و تعالى said,

وَعَسى أَنْ تَكْرَهُوا شَيْئًا وَهُوَ خَيْرٌ لَكُمْ وَعَسَى أَنْ تُحِبُّوا شَيْئًا وَهُوَ شَرٌّ لَكُمْ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ وَأَنْتُمْ لاَ تَعْلَمُونَ

"It could be that you dislike something and it is Good for you and it could be that you like something and it is Bad for you. Allah knows and you know not" [al-Baqarah 2:216]

It is the Khilafah alone that binds the ruler to the one True Deen, Islam, forcing him to forsake his personal gains, likes, whims and desires. The Khaleefah is bound to implement laws that are revealed by Allah سبحانه و تعالى. The Khilafah has a Court of Unjust Acts that will remove any ruler that implements kufr. The Khilafah will allow political parties that account the ruler on the basis of Islam, without the need for any permission or permit, because it is an Islamic duty sanctioned by the Lord of the Worlds. And it will encourage the Ummah, the aware from amongst them, the ulema, the media people and others, to carry out their duty to account the rulers within the elected Majlis-e-Ummah and outside of it.

Only a rightly guided Khaleefah will bring real change in Pakistan, within hours. The Khaleefah will immediately end all forms of co-operation with the American crusaders and expel both their diplomatic and military staff from Muslim Lands. The Khaleefah will cut the NATO supply line that crosses Pakistan to starve the crusader occupation in Afghanistan. He will reclaim vital military assets that can be employed for the relief efforts such as the airbase near Jacobabad and airspace used by American drones. He will encourage the sincere from the Muslims of the tribal areas and Baluchistan to join the ranks of the Khilafah's armed forces, exposing the munafiqeen amongst the ranks of the Muslims, and allowing the Muslims to act as one hand on behalf of the Muslims and Islam. He will release billions of dollars worth of wealth by; ending the private ownership of the public properties, such as gas and minerals, and using their immense revenue to benefit all the citizens of the Khilafah, ending all forms of usury based debt servicing to the colonialist institutions and establishing the Islamic system of revenues which brings relief for the poor and takes only from those who are not needy and not beyond what they can bear. And the Khaleefah will work to unify all the Muslim countries as the single most resourceful state in the world. All this is a natural consequence of a Khaleefah comprehensively implementing Islam.

O Muslims of Pakistan's armed forces!

How long will you allow the colonialists and their agents to cheat your people and deny them real change? Will you stand and watch as yet another cosmetic change to the current kufr system takes place? No doubt, real change lies in your hands. Your people are ready for real change and demand it. America is weaker than at any point before, with its armed forces stretched to breaking and its economy collapsed beyond recovery. And Allah سبحانه و تعالى is your Helper, the One who throughout history assisted His Righteous Slaves as a sign to the kuffar that He سبحانه و تعالى is with the Muslims, even when they were heavily outnumbered and weak in resources. Rather than supporting another cosmetic change within the current system, you must move now and uproot the kufr colonialist system and give the Nussrah to Hizb ut-Tahrir for the establishment of the Khilafah. Step forward so that the current rulers and their kufr current system are replaced by a sincere leadership, ruling by Islam and securing the blessings of Allah سبحانه و تعالى in terms of reward, security and prosperity. Allah سبحانه وتعالى said,

وَعَدَ اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنْكُمْ وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ لَيَسْتَخْلِفَنَّهُم فِي الأَرْضِ كَمَا اسْتَخْلَفَ الَّذِينَ مِنْ قَبْلِهِمْ وَلَيُمَكِّنَنَّ لَهُمْ دِينَهُمُ الَّذِي ارْتَضَى لَهُمْ وَلَيُبَدِّلَنَّهُمْ مِنْ بَعْدِ خَوْفِهِمْ أَمْنًا يَعْبُدُونَنِي لاَ يُشْرِكُونَ بِي شَيْئًا وَمَنْ كَفَرَ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ فَأُوْلَئِكَ هُمْ الْفَاسِقُونَ

"Allâh has promised those among you who believe and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession to (the present rulers) in the land, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion which He has chosen for them (i.e. Islâm). And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear (provided) they (believers) worship Me and do not associate anything (in worship) with Me. But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the Fâsiqûn (rebellious, disobedient to Allâh)." [an-Noor 24:55]


Hizb-ut-Tahrir Wilayah Pakistan

22 September 2010 / 13 Shawwal 1431 AH