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#16 No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11
in Top 25 Censored Stories for 2008

Source:
The Muckraker Report, June 6, 2006, and Ithaca Journal, June 29, 2006
Title: “FBI says, ‘No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11’”
Author: Ed Haas
FBI says, "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11"

Student Researcher: Bianca May and Morgan Ulery
Faculty Evaluator: Ben Frymer, Ph.D.

Osama bin Laden’s role in the events of September 11, 2001 is not mentioned on the FBI’s “Ten Most Wanted” poster.
On June 5, 2006, author Ed Haas contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation headquarters to ask why, while claiming that bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 1998 bombings of US Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, the poster does not indicate that he is wanted in connection with the events of 9/11.
Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI responded, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” Asked to explain the process, Tomb responded, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.”
Haas pauses to ask the question, “If the US government does not have enough hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11, how is it possible that it had enough evidence to invade Afghanistan to ‘smoke him out of his cave?’” Through corporate media, the Bush administration told the American people that bin Laden was “Public Enemy Number One,” responsible for the deaths of nearly 3,000 people on September 11, 2001. The federal government claims to have invaded Afghanistan to “root out” bin Laden and the Taliban, yet nearly six years later, the FBI said that it had no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.
Though the world was to have been convinced by the December 2001 release of a bin Laden “confession video,” the Department of Defense issued a press release to accompany this video in which Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said, “There was no doubt of bin Laden’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks even before the tape was discovered.”
In a CNN article regarding the bin Laden tape, then New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said that “the tape removes any doubt that the US military campaign targeting bin Laden and his associates is more than justified.” Senator Richard Shelby, R-Alabama, the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee said, “The tape’s release is central to informing people in the outside world who don’t believe bin Laden was involved in the September 11 attacks.” Shelby went on to say “I don’t know how they can be in denial after they see this tape.”
Haas attempted to secure a reference to US government authentication of the bin Laden “confession video,” to no avail. However, it is conclusive that the Bush Administration and US Congress, along with corporate media, presented the video as authentic. So why doesn’t the FBI view the “confession video” as hard evidence? After all, notes Haas, if the FBI is investigating a crime such as drug trafficking, and it discovers a video of members of a drug cartel openly talking about a successful distribution operation in the United States, that video would be presented to a federal grand jury. The participants identified in the video would be indicted. The video alone would serve as sufficient evidence to net a conviction in a federal court. So why, asks Haas, is the bin Laden “confession video” not carrying the same weight with the FBI?
Haas strongly suggests that we begin asking questions, “The fact that the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Osama bin Laden to 9/11 should be headline news around the world. The challenge to the reader is to find out why it is not. Why has the US media blindly read the government-provided 9/11 scripts, rather than investigate without passion, prejudice, or bias, the events of September 11, 2001? Why has the US media blacklisted any guest that might speak of a government-sponsored 9/11 cover-up, rather than seeking out those people who have something to say about 9/11 that is contrary to the government’s account?” Haas continues. “Who is controlling the media message, and how is it that the FBI has no ‘hard evidence’ connecting Osama bin Laden to the events of September 11, 2001, while the US media has played the bin Laden-9/11 connection story for [six] years now as if it has conclusive evidence that bin Laden is responsible for the collapse of the twin towers, the Pentagon attack, and the demise of United Flight 93?”
UPDATE BY ED HAAS
On June 6, 2006 the Muckraker Report ran a piece by Ed Haas titled “FBI says, ‘No hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.’” Haas is the editor and a writer for the Muckraker Report. At the center of this article remains the authenticity and truthfulness of the videotape released by the federal government on December 13, 2001 in which it is reported that Osama bin Laden “confesses” to the September 11, 2001 attacks. The corporate media—television, radio, and newspapers—across the United States and the world repeated, virtually non-stop for a week after the videotape’s release, the government account of OBL “confessing.”
However, not one document has been released that demonstrates the authenticity of the videotape or that it even went through an authentication process. The Muckraker Report has submitted Freedom of Information Act requests to the FBI, CIA, Department of Defense, and CENTCOM requesting documentation that would demonstrate the authenticity of the videotape and the dates/circumstances in which the videotape was discovered. CENTCOM has yet to reply to the FOIA request. After losing an appeal, the FBI responded that no documents could be found responsive to the request. The Department of Defense referred the Muckraker Report to CENTCOM while also indicating that it had no documents responsive to the FOIA request either.
The CIA however claims that it can neither confirm nor deny the existence or nonexistence of records responsive to the request. According to the CIA the fact of the existence or nonexistence of requested records is properly classified and is intelligence sources and methods information that is protected from disclosure by section 6 of the CIA Act of 1949, as amended. Therefore, the Agency has denied your request pursuant to FOIA exemptions (b)(1) and (b)(3).
Many people believe that if the videotape is authentic, it should be sufficient hard evidence for the FBI to connect bin Laden to 9/11. The Muckraker Report agrees. However, for the Department of Justice to indict bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks, something the government has yet to do, the videotape would have to be entered into evidence and subjected to additional scrutiny. This appears to be something the government wishes to avoid.
Some believe that the video is a fake. They refer to it as the “fat bin Laden”video. The Muckraker Report believes that while the videotape is indeed authentic, it was the result of an elaborate CIA sting operation. The Muckraker Report also believes that the reason why there is no documentation that demonstrates that the videotape went through an authenticity process is because the CIA knew it was authentic, they arranged the taping.
It is highly probable that the videotape was taped on September 26, 2001—before the US invaded Afghanistan.
 
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Old news, 911 is regarded as some sort of a hoax by most Americans by now. But somehow the press and the whitehouse keeps mentioning it now and then even though they know most people listening don't buy all of it based on "faith" like they did right after it happened.
 
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I know its old news. But I didn't realize that loopholes were so openly viewable to the world just at the click of a mouse. Please note that there are plenty of people on this forum that still strongly believe that Al Qaeda is responsible for 9/11 and the US invasion of Afghanistan is justified. This is proof that the US invasion of Afghanistan is based on a lie and totally unjust.....due to which it should be the right of anyone to resist their occupation by violent means if necessary.

Notice that 9/11 is missing from the list of charges against Bin Laden on the FBI's website.

Most Wanted Terrorist - Usama Bin Laden
 
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9-11 is an internal job. So much evidence is available to prove that but still American nation believes that. This is called the power of Zionist controlled Media.
 
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No, the majority of Americans no longer believe the official 911 story. About 70% question the official report but most have no real idea what happened and are confused. Every year that goes by more and more people in America are changing their minds. It is similar to what happened with the JFK assasination. In the 1960s when it first happened only a very small minority doubted the official press and govt reports. Then slowly, year after year and decade after decade more and more people knew the official explanation was bogus but they were confused about the reality. Same phenomena over here with 911, people are confused about the exact details but they have stopped believing the official story.
 
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9-11 is an internal job. So much evidence is available to prove that but still American nation believes that. This is called the power of Zionist controlled Media.

What is the evidence?

Much of Muslim world (including PTV) was saying from day 1 that it was a Jewish conspiracy! What new facts have come to light?
 
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What is the evidence?

Much of Muslim world (including PTV) was saying from day 1 that it was a Jewish conspiracy! What new facts have come to light?

Although this is not the evidence you are referring to....it does require more questioning and points us in the direction of an official LIE. Here is #18 in the list. More stories to come.


18. Physicist Challenges Official 9-11 Story | Project Censored

18. Physicist Challenges Official 9-11 Story
in Top 25 Censored Stories for 2007

Sources:
Deseret Morning News, November 10, 2005
Title: “Y. Professor Thinks Bombs, Not Planes, Toppled WTC”
Author: Elaine Jarvik

Brigham Young University website, Winter 2005
Title: “Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?”
Author: Steven E. Jones

Deseret Morning News, January 26, 2006
Title: “BYU professor’s group accuses U.S. officials of lying about 9/11”
Author: Elaine Jarvik

Faculty Evaluator: John Kramer
Student Researchers: David Abbott and Courtney Wilcox

Research into the events of September 11 by Brigham Young University physics professor, Steven E. Jones, concludes that the official explanation for the collapse of the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings is implausible according to laws of physics. Jones is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation “guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations.”

In debunking the official explanation of the collapse of the three WTC buildings, Jones cites the complete, rapid, and symmetrical collapse of the buildings; the horizontal explosions (squibs) evidenced in films of the collapses; the fact that the antenna dropped first in the North Tower, suggesting the use of explosives in the core columns; and the large pools of molten metal observed in the basement areas of both towers.

Jones also investigated the collapse of WTC 7, a forty-seven-story building that was not hit by planes, yet dropped in its own “footprint,” in the same manner as a controlled demolition. WTC 7 housed the U.S. Secret Service, the Department of Defense, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management, the Internal Revenue Service Regional Council, and the Central Intelligence Agency. Many of the records from the Enron accounting scandal were destroyed when the building came down.

Jones claims that the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) ignored the physics and chemistry of what happened on September 11 and even manipulated its testing in order to get a computer-generated hypothesis that fit the end result of collapse, and did not even attempt to investigate the possibility of controlled demolition. He also questions the investigations conducted by FEMA and the 9/11 Commission.

Among the report’s other findings:

No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel columns.

WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. “Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics?” Jones asks. “That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors—and intact steel support columns—the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass.

How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings?” The paradox, he says, “is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near free-fall-speed collapses.” These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST, or the 9/11 Commission.

With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattered concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling. “How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing—and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon.”

Steel supports were “partly evaporated,” but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel—and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about twenty minutes in any given location.

Molten metal found in the debris of the WTC may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite. Buildings not felled by explosives “have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal,” Jones says.

Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck.

In January 2006 Jones, along with a group calling themselves “Scholars for 9/11 Truth,” called for an international investigation into the attacks and are going so far as to accuse the U.S. government of a massive cover-up.

“We believe that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on September 11,” the group said in a statement. “We believe these events may have been orchestrated by the administration in order to manipulate the American people into supporting policies at home and abroad.”

The group is headed by Jones and Jim Fetzer, University of Minnesota Duluth distinguished McKnight professor of philosophy, and is made up of fifty academicians and experts including Robert M. Bowman, former director of the U.S. “Star Wars” space defense program, and Morgan Reynolds, former chief economist for the Department of Labor in President George W. Bush’s first term.

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhyIndeedDidtheWorldTradeCenterBuildingsCompletelyCollapse.pdf
 
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I have seen many such reports by one set of experts and their debunking by other set of experts.

Which "experts" to believe depends on one's individual biases.

To me personally, if it was an inside job, it would be extremely difficult to carry out in an open society like the USA, would need thousands of people to be involved and could not have been hidden this long.

It is up to the naysayers to prove otherwise and they have to come up with something better than unproved conspiracy theories.
 
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I have seen many such reports by one set of experts and their debunking by other set of experts.

Which "experts" to believe depends on one's individual biases.

It is up to the naysayers to prove otherwise and they have to come up with something better than unproved conspiracy theories.

Although I am under no illusion that you would accept it, I am posting a response for the benefit of others.

An object in free fall if dropped from 47 stories would take roughly 6 seconds to reach the earth. What this man is saying is common sense and rather than just call it nonsense it makes more sense if one can provide a reasonable explanation as to how the building could go in free-fall this way.

WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. “Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics?” Jones asks. “That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors—and intact steel support columns—the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass.

How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings?” The paradox, he says, “is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near free-fall-speed collapses.”


Secondly, if the building were to collapse due to fire, damage, accident or some other non-engineered means, it would fall on the path of least resistance and would not have collapsed on itself in within its own footprint. This is actually impossible without controlled demolitions.

It is COMMON SENSE and I offer you as proof to maqsad who questioned how many people still believe this nonsense.
 
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It is COMMON SENSE and I offer you as proof to maqsad who questioned how many people still believe this nonsense.

Sorry, he's Indian and thus does not count as proof. Just think about it, if he does indeed know that it is a hoax he will still continue to support the official lies because it maligns and demonizes Pakistan, Pakistanis and Muslims in general. If on the other hand he has not figured out it is a hoax he will not be interested in examining the evidence because the outcome will be too nauseous for him to handle. Every single Indian on this forum will fall into one of the above two categories.
 
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Sorry, he's Indian and thus does not count as proof. Just think about it, if he does indeed know that it is a hoax he will still continue to support the official lies because it maligns and demonizes Pakistan, Pakistanis and Muslims in general. If on the other hand he has not figured out it is a hoax he will not be interested in examining the evidence because the outcome will be too nauseous for him to handle. Every single Indian on this forum will fall into one of the above two categories.

Maqsad, if you so anti-USA, why do I still see your location as USA? Does it convey something?

Where does Pakistan come here? There were no Pakistanis among the 19 accused! Am I missing something?

As I said almost the whole Muslim world (including Pakistanis) started saying from day 1 that Jews have done so and Jews took mass leave on that day et al. This evidence only supports what you already knew.

Obviously you are a more biased party than me! It doesn't effect me who were the real perpetrators. It seems to effect you more. I will go by what the victims of that attack officially say rather than wild conspiracy theories unless they find mainstream acceptance.

Are the Americans fools not to throw out and bring to justice the people who were behind this atrocity, if they were insiders?
 
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Vinod,

Instead of just dismissing things out of hand....why not answer the points raised by me in the previous post in a REASONED way?!

I totally agree with you Maqsad, I am under no illusion that any of these Indians on this forum would agree, even if they knew conclusively that it was the truth. This is why my exchange was more for everyone else.
 
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It does not necessary mean that Indians will support whatever the US does or does not do.

We have never supported the US in so far as Iraq is concerned inter alia other issues.
 
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Maqsad, if you so anti-USA, why do I still see your location as USA? Does it convey something?

It conveys that you trying to steer the conversation to a non issue. Do you also think 70% of the American population will just get up and move to Canada and Mexico because the govt and industry is corrupt here? And then have 200 million Indian H1 workers fill in their spots? No, it doesn't work that way.


Where does Pakistan come here? There were no Pakistanis among the 19 accused! Am I missing something?

Yes you are missing something, the Indian press's favorite 911 snippet about a wire transfer. Ring any bells? How about the fact that the taliban were falsely accused of harboring the mastermind which the FBI now denies. How about the fact that the US to this day accuses Pakistan of favoring the taliban which supposedly helped mastermind 911 but not really according to the FBI. How about the fact that the whitehouse is leaking press reports saying that they expect the next 911 to come from within Pakistan! You are missing quite a lot.

As I said almost the whole Muslim world (including Pakistanis) started saying from day 1 that Jews have done so and Jews took mass leave on that day et al. This evidence only supports what you already knew.

Why did you suddenly start babbling about Jews? You were the first person to mention "jewish conspiracies" in this thread. Why? Why are you steering the topic to a Jewish mass leave on that day when nobody has yet even mentioned it. The issue is if some man sitting in a cave masterminded it or not. How much involvement jews had is just a side issue, why are you bringing a side issue up?


Obviously you are a more biased party than me! It doesn't effect me who were the real perpetrators. It seems to effect you more. I will go by what the victims of that attack officially say rather than wild conspiracy theories unless they find mainstream acceptance.

The victims are dead and cannot say anything but if you want to go by what the FBI says then Bin Ladin did not do it and had nothing to do with it. FBI mainstream enough for you? Oh wait..the FBI is probably full of wild conspiracy theorists who make no sense, right?

Are the Americans fools not to throw out and bring to justice the people who were behind this atrocity, if they were insiders?

It's called corruption, top down corruption. You can't throw out people overnight who control the national guard, swat teams, police and press. The process will be slow and most likely take decades because of the resistence and resilience of the corrupt establishment, if it happens at all that is.
 
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It does not necessary mean that Indians will support whatever the US does or does not do.

We have never supported the US in so far as Iraq is concerned inter alia other issues.

Salim...dude...r u a Hindoo or what?
 
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