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Washington (CNN)Turkish security officials were involved in Tuesday's assault of protesters against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan outside the Turkish ambassador's residence in Washington, two law enforcement sources tell CNN.

The US State Department said it is "concerned by the violent incidents involving protestors and Turkish security personnel" in a statement on Wednesday.

"Violence is never an appropriate response to free speech, and we support the rights of people everywhere to free expression and peaceful protest," the statement said. "We are communicating our concern to the Turkish government in the strongest possible terms."

A State Department official said the Turkish security that was involved appears to be a mix of Turkish embassy and Erdogan security staff.

But in a statement late Wednesday, the Turkish embassy claimed the groups that assembled were "affiliated with the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party)" without permission and "began aggressively provoking Turkish-American citizens who had peacefully assembled to greet the President."

"The Turkish-Americans responded in self-defense," the statement from the Turkish embassy said, adding "We hope that, in the future, appropriate measures will be taken to ensure that similar provocative actions causing harm and violence do not occur."

But that account differs greatly from the sequence of events described by protesters and video captured by the Voice of America Turkish service they said was taken at the scene.
The bloody brawl outside the Turkish ambassador's residence Tuesday sent nine to the hospital. Turkish security officials were seen coming out of the ambassador's residence, then retreating to the residence grounds, a law enforcement official said, adding that the same scenario played out more than once.

Federal and local law enforcement are going through security video to identify exactly who was involved.

"We intend to ensure accountability of anybody involved," DC police chief Peter Newsham said at a news conference Wednesday.

The incident came as Trump extended a warm welcome to Erdogan, an authoritarian-style leader who had a strained relationship with the previous US administration.

"We've had a great relationship and we will make it even better," Trump said in the Oval Office as he sat beside Erdogan. "We look forward to having very strong and solid discussions."

The anti-Erdogan protest was organized by Kurdish Americans, the Armenian National Committee of America and supporters of the Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP), a pro-Kurdish political party in Turkey.

A protest organizer tells CNN there were fewer than 25 protesters in total.

Flint Arthur, an anti-Erdogan protester, told CNN Tuesday that police had them stand in a roundabout park across the street from Erdogan supporters near the Turkish ambassador's residence.

"A few police officers stood between us," Flint said.

One observer told CNN the entire melee started when a plastic water bottle was thrown; it's not clear by whom. CNN is not publishing the name of that observer as they were not authorized to speak to the media.

"After the police line broke, all fought with each other no matter if they were officially on duty or civilian," said the observer.

Police were caught off guard, said another eyewitness, as Erdogan was yet to arrive. CNN is not publishing the name of the eyewitness for security concerns.

"I, myself, (saw) a Turkish bodyguard kicking a Kurdish protester," that eyewitness said. "An American police (officer was) trying to stop him hitting (the protester) with a stick."

That Kurdish protester, in red pants, was Lucy Usoyan. After she was hit with the flying water bottle, she said she remembers falling to the ground.

"I could feel that someone was heavily beating my head and back," she told CNN. Soon after, she lost consciousness.

In the Voice of America video, three men are seen kicking Usoyan. One of the men is in a suit, the other two are in attire that Erdogan's personal security detail wears—one appears to have a weapon holstered on his side.

"I didn't expect it would be so violent," said Usoyan. "I had heard many stories of protests in Turkey. But okay, that's Turkey."

Arthur told CNN that some of the men who attacked them were part of the Turkish security detail.

"We were attacked by people in suits with earpieces in," he said.

Aram Hamparian, who works with the Armenian National Committee of America, arrived just prior to the violence.

"(The Erdogan supporters) got very agitated," he told CNN on Tuesday. "There was a lot of energy on that side. They crossed the line. They ran around the police line. Crossed the circle and attacked the protesters."

Hamparian said the individuals were, "very capable of beating people up."

"They were really well trained; some of the photos show that they had weapons on them," he said; the Voice of America video appears to show some individuals with sidearms.

"At some point, somebody on the Erdogan side, sent a bunch of security folks," Hamparian added.

Some of the individuals, in the videos seen by CNN, also appear to be wearing the same uniform as Erdogan's personal security detail. A CNN analysis of photos shows the security detail at previous Erdogan events wearing their uniform: a brown, unbuttoned shirt with a black undershirt and beige pants.

"The guys were very violent," said Hamparian. "They knew what they were doing. It wasn't like people wrestling in the street."

DC mayor condemns protest response

Mayor Muriel Bowser issued the following statement on Wednesday morning: "What we saw yesterday -- a violent attack on a peaceful demonstration -- is an affront to DC values and our rights as Americans. I strongly condemn these actions and have been briefed by Chief Newsham on our response. The Metropolitan Police Department will continue investigating the incident and will work with federal partners to ensure justice is served."

The Washington Fire and EMS Department's Twitter account said that nine people were injured during the protests on Tuesday. Those injured were taken to George Washington University Hospital and Georgetown Hospital.

In a separate video from Voice of America, a very bloodied Erdogan supporter is helped away from the scene. It's unclear how he received these injuries.

The observer who was not authorized to talk to the media told CNN that the individual was hit by a megaphone by anti-Erdogan protesters and received 17 stitches to his head.

They say that when DC Police refused to arrest that anti-Erdogan protester, it angered the crowd.

Hamparian tells CNN that injuries ranged from cuts and bruises, some of which required stiches.

Despite Trump's greeting to the Turkish leader, the relationship has been strained by the United States' refusal to extradite a Turkish cleric living in Pennsylvania, whom Erdogan blames for orchestrating a July coup attempt against him.

And the two countries are at odds over Trump's decision to arm Kurdish militias that are helping in the fight to rout ISIS from its Syrian stronghold in Raqqa. Turkey sees these militias as an extension of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, which is considered a terrorist group in the United States, Turkey and Europe.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/turkey-erdogan-incident/

*EDIT*: It says the fight broke out in front of the Turkish Embassy, but it was residence, as shown by the Sheridan Circle Park.
 
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If they were African Americans you would be crying Police Brutality. In America Erdogan is not King, and the guards only showed their immaturity and authoritarian mentality just like the racist American policemen.

It's not really being racist. It's just how they're trained is the problem. There might be some cases with racism but it is blown out of proportion.

I remember the cops indiscriminately shot an autistic white child. Hardly any outrage for that poor soul, no hashtag no street protests. Nothing.
 
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It's not really being racist. It's just how they're trained is the problem. There might be some cases with racism but it is blown out of proportion.

I remember the cops indiscriminately shot an autistic white child. Hardly any outrage for that poor soul, no hashtag no street protests. Nothing.

You still missed the point about the brutality part. You don't attack protesters, especially in a foreign country. If Netanyahu visited the US and his bodyguards beat protesters against him would you still be impressed as you were with Erdogan's bodyguards?
 
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You still missed the point about the brutality part. You don't attack protesters, especially in a foreign country. If Netanyahu visited the US and his bodyguards beat protesters against him would you still be impressed as you were with Erdogan's bodyguards?

I would respect him but I wouldn't like him. They may not like him but they will take him seriously. Not some pansy. It's not about being impressed.
 
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If they were African Americans you would be crying Police Brutality. In America Erdogan is not King, and the guards only showed their immaturity and authoritarian mentality just like the racist American policemen.

When you're in Rome be like a Roman, right?



Western puppets getting beaten in their masters' home for good!
 
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Washington (CNN)Turkish security officials were involved in Tuesday's assault of protesters against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan outside the Turkish ambassador's residence in Washington, two law enforcement sources tell CNN.

The US State Department said it is "concerned by the violent incidents involving protestors and Turkish security personnel" in a statement on Wednesday.

"Violence is never an appropriate response to free speech, and we support the rights of people everywhere to free expression and peaceful protest," the statement said. "We are communicating our concern to the Turkish government in the strongest possible terms."

A State Department official said the Turkish security that was involved appears to be a mix of Turkish embassy and Erdogan security staff.

But in a statement late Wednesday, the Turkish embassy claimed the groups that assembled were "affiliated with the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party)" without permission and "began aggressively provoking Turkish-American citizens who had peacefully assembled to greet the President."

"The Turkish-Americans responded in self-defense," the statement from the Turkish embassy said, adding "We hope that, in the future, appropriate measures will be taken to ensure that similar provocative actions causing harm and violence do not occur."

But that account differs greatly from the sequence of events described by protesters and video captured by the Voice of America Turkish service they said was taken at the scene.
The bloody brawl outside the Turkish ambassador's residence Tuesday sent nine to the hospital. Turkish security officials were seen coming out of the ambassador's residence, then retreating to the residence grounds, a law enforcement official said, adding that the same scenario played out more than once.

Federal and local law enforcement are going through security video to identify exactly who was involved.

"We intend to ensure accountability of anybody involved," DC police chief Peter Newsham said at a news conference Wednesday.

The incident came as Trump extended a warm welcome to Erdogan, an authoritarian-style leader who had a strained relationship with the previous US administration.

"We've had a great relationship and we will make it even better," Trump said in the Oval Office as he sat beside Erdogan. "We look forward to having very strong and solid discussions."

The anti-Erdogan protest was organized by Kurdish Americans, the Armenian National Committee of America and supporters of the Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP), a pro-Kurdish political party in Turkey.

A protest organizer tells CNN there were fewer than 25 protesters in total.

Flint Arthur, an anti-Erdogan protester, told CNN Tuesday that police had them stand in a roundabout park across the street from Erdogan supporters near the Turkish ambassador's residence.

"A few police officers stood between us," Flint said.

One observer told CNN the entire melee started when a plastic water bottle was thrown; it's not clear by whom. CNN is not publishing the name of that observer as they were not authorized to speak to the media.

"After the police line broke, all fought with each other no matter if they were officially on duty or civilian," said the observer.

Police were caught off guard, said another eyewitness, as Erdogan was yet to arrive. CNN is not publishing the name of the eyewitness for security concerns.

"I, myself, (saw) a Turkish bodyguard kicking a Kurdish protester," that eyewitness said. "An American police (officer was) trying to stop him hitting (the protester) with a stick."

That Kurdish protester, in red pants, was Lucy Usoyan. After she was hit with the flying water bottle, she said she remembers falling to the ground.

"I could feel that someone was heavily beating my head and back," she told CNN. Soon after, she lost consciousness.

In the Voice of America video, three men are seen kicking Usoyan. One of the men is in a suit, the other two are in attire that Erdogan's personal security detail wears—one appears to have a weapon holstered on his side.

"I didn't expect it would be so violent," said Usoyan. "I had heard many stories of protests in Turkey. But okay, that's Turkey."

Arthur told CNN that some of the men who attacked them were part of the Turkish security detail.

"We were attacked by people in suits with earpieces in," he said.

Aram Hamparian, who works with the Armenian National Committee of America, arrived just prior to the violence.

"(The Erdogan supporters) got very agitated," he told CNN on Tuesday. "There was a lot of energy on that side. They crossed the line. They ran around the police line. Crossed the circle and attacked the protesters."

Hamparian said the individuals were, "very capable of beating people up."

"They were really well trained; some of the photos show that they had weapons on them," he said; the Voice of America video appears to show some individuals with sidearms.

"At some point, somebody on the Erdogan side, sent a bunch of security folks," Hamparian added.

Some of the individuals, in the videos seen by CNN, also appear to be wearing the same uniform as Erdogan's personal security detail. A CNN analysis of photos shows the security detail at previous Erdogan events wearing their uniform: a brown, unbuttoned shirt with a black undershirt and beige pants.

"The guys were very violent," said Hamparian. "They knew what they were doing. It wasn't like people wrestling in the street."

DC mayor condemns protest response

Mayor Muriel Bowser issued the following statement on Wednesday morning: "What we saw yesterday -- a violent attack on a peaceful demonstration -- is an affront to DC values and our rights as Americans. I strongly condemn these actions and have been briefed by Chief Newsham on our response. The Metropolitan Police Department will continue investigating the incident and will work with federal partners to ensure justice is served."

The Washington Fire and EMS Department's Twitter account said that nine people were injured during the protests on Tuesday. Those injured were taken to George Washington University Hospital and Georgetown Hospital.

In a separate video from Voice of America, a very bloodied Erdogan supporter is helped away from the scene. It's unclear how he received these injuries.

The observer who was not authorized to talk to the media told CNN that the individual was hit by a megaphone by anti-Erdogan protesters and received 17 stitches to his head.

They say that when DC Police refused to arrest that anti-Erdogan protester, it angered the crowd.

Hamparian tells CNN that injuries ranged from cuts and bruises, some of which required stiches.

Despite Trump's greeting to the Turkish leader, the relationship has been strained by the United States' refusal to extradite a Turkish cleric living in Pennsylvania, whom Erdogan blames for orchestrating a July coup attempt against him.

And the two countries are at odds over Trump's decision to arm Kurdish militias that are helping in the fight to rout ISIS from its Syrian stronghold in Raqqa. Turkey sees these militias as an extension of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, which is considered a terrorist group in the United States, Turkey and Europe.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/turkey-erdogan-incident/

*EDIT*: It says the fight broke out in front of the Turkish Embassy, but it was residence, as shown by the Sheridan Circle Park.
The protesters were not against Erdogan,they were against my country.
The protestors were Armenians and PKK Kurds so,wrong tittle CNN.
 
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Why does the US allow PKK to protest in front of the Embassy residency and Embassy?
Next time we will pull the same stunt and allow ISIS protest in front of American embassies, does that sound good?
 
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What Anti-Erdogan protesters... just a bunch of butt hurt Armenians and PKK supporters getting their azz whooped a little bit just for the fun. :enjoy:
 
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Erdogan uses high-handed tactics to suppress protesting Turks in the US
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Supporters of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, including his government security forces and several armed individuals, violently charged a group of protesters outside the Turkish ambassador’s residence in Washington on Tuesday night in what the police characterized as “a brutal attack.”


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A demonstration outside the Turkish Embassy in northwest Washington led to nine people being injured, and two arrested
6:35 AM - 17 May 2017

The altercation occurred just hours after President Trump met with the Turkey’s leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Read more: Is Erdoğan losing his grip on a dangerously divided Turkey

According to a New York Times story, the Metropolitan Police chief, Peter Newsham said that eleven people were injured, including a police officer, and nine were taken to a hospital.


The attack was condemned by the State Department and deemed as an action inimical to free speech. “We are communicating our concern to the Turkish government in the strongest possible terms,” said Heather Nauert, a State Department spokeswoman.

Veteran US politician, Senator John McCain berated Turkey for the act. “This is the United States of America. We do not do this here. There is no excuse for this kind of thuggish behavior,” he tweeted.

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Erdogan uses high-handed tactics to suppress protesting Turks in the US
 
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Yea I bet Erdogan was on top of the embassy guiding his followers and security forces to 'suppress' these protesters. (sarcasm)
 
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