Pressured by Trump, it looks like China is going to do something about North Korea's nukes

[satishkumarcsc]

All the money stolen as bribes by the Chinese officials are in NK. Why would they bomb or threaten North Korea. This is just lip service.

 

[Stuttgart001]

If US can have nukes, why can't North Korea? Some balance is needed

Sorry,buddy. It's the reality of the planet.
Just like the big fives have veto, while india have not.

Whether reasonable or no, you have to face.

BYB, Indian leaders wouldn't think it's reasonable that Nepal has its nukes, i guess.

All the money stolen as bribes by the Chinese officials are in NK. Why would they bomb or threaten North Korea. This is just lip service.

You are a person with the most imagination i ever see.
Can you find the location of DPRK on the map?

 

[Georg]

You are seriously delusional if you think China and Russia are "small regional powers".

they are they have no ability like the US to show force all around the world... means they are regional ...the only thing that keeps Russia at the table of the big nations is their nuclear weapon arsenal

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Yes, China and Russia are the only two regional countries that could assure a mutual destruction with US.
Forget to say that, the mighty NATO seemed not to prevent Russia which is poor and isolated and heavily sanctioned from taking back Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
The mighty NATO is too lazy to show its unparalleled muscle.


It is a little shaming for you a US people to know so little about your nation.
Let me a Chinese tell you what happened between US and DPRK in the past.
DRPK started to develop its nukes and missiles 20 years ago.
During 20 years , the president of US . Clinton , W.bush , commanded the carriar group cruising near DPRK and threatened to bomb it many times and DPRK suvived each time. Guess why?

Given to the performance of US in the past 20 years, how could you have such a fantasy that China would do something just because US ask.

As for nuclear crisis this time, no mattar China disarming DPRK's nukes on its own hand or just being bystander or protecting DPRK , that is based on China's own interest instead of other nation's wish or command.

I totally agree with you but what is your personal analyses what is in store what can and is going to happen bro

 

[Stuttgart001]

they are they have no ability like the US to show force all around the world... means they are regional ...the only thing that keeps Russia at the table of the big nations is their nuclear weapon arsenal

Partialy agree.
But i doubt if "small" is a suitable adjective for Russia.
Regardless of nuclear weapon, i cannot find out any other nation is superior to Russia except US.

I totally agree with you but what is your personal analyses what is in store what can and is going to happen bro

Dude, if you are interested, you can see my posts in other threads which I have given my opinions about what China would do .

 

[LeGenD]

Think again.

Trump backs away from labeling China a currency manipulator



http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-currency-idUSKBN17E2L8

That tells us nothing.

Trump harbored that perception but Chinese leader likely corrected him on this matter with empirical evidence and/or facts during a meeting.

Fanboys try to make a mountain out of a mole as usual.

Remember that US is the customer and China is the seller. You don't antagonize your top customer.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Partialy agree.
But i doubt if "small" is a suitable adjective for Russia.
Regardless of nuclear weapon, i cannot find out any other nation is superior to Russia except US.

Dude, if you are interested, you can see my posts in other threads which I have given my opinions about what China would do .

Links please

 

[Steve781]

I wouldn't be surprised if they were plotting with the generals to bring a more compliant government to power.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

as far as I'm concerned these are all pressure tactics physically attacking north Korea is not a joke the consequences of it will be unpredictable for all concerned.

 

[T-Rex]

'Thermo-nuclear war may break out any moment': Kim Jong-Un tells Trump he will detonate a nuke 'whenever he sees fit' as China warns anyone provoking North Korea will 'pay the price'

• Vice Minister Han Song Ryol accused Trump of building up a 'vicious cycle' of tensions on the Korean Peninsula and pointed to his 'aggressive tweets'
• He blamed the US and Trump for growing tensions, citing military exercises with South Korea and the deployment of a US aircraft carrier to the peninsula
• Han ominously warned the US the state would 'go to war if they choose' and vowed to continue accumulating nuclear arms
• Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said anyone provoking conflict would 'pay the price'
• Pyongyang is preparing to mark its national 'Day of the Sun' tomorrow to commemorate the birth anniversary of its founding president Kim Il Sung
• US officials told NBC the US was prepared to launch a pre-emptive strike to halt a nuclear test, but a member of the Trump administration denied the report
• US Vice President Mike Pence will travel to South Korea on Sunday in what his aides said was a sign of the U.S. commitment to its ally

By Jessica Chia For Dailymail.com and Dave Burke For Mailonline

Published: 06:15 BST, 14 April 2017 | Updated: 10:47 BST, 14 April 2017

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4411108/North-Korea-hits-Trump-ahead-Day-Sun.html#comments
President Donald Trump's 'troublemaking' and 'aggressive' tweets have pushed the world to the brink of thermo-nuclear war, North Korea warned today.

Pyongyang's Vice Minister Han Song Ryol accused Trump of building up a 'vicious cycle' of tensions and warned the US against provoking North Korea militarily. He said: 'We will go to war if they choose.'

He added the country would continue developing its nuclear program and conduct its next nuclear test whenever its leaders see fit.

His comments come as tensions rise over the possibility Kim Jong-un's regime will launch another nuclear weapons test tomorrow as North Korea marks the national holiday Day of the Sun, commemorating the birth of the country's founding father Kim Il Sung.

At the same time, a spokesman for the North Korean Foreign Ministry's Institute for Disarmament and Peace issued a statement condemning the United States for attacking Syria last week, while also calling for 'peace by strength'.

'The US introduces into the Korean peninsula, the world's biggest hotspot, huge nuclear strategic assets, seriously threatening peace and security of the peninsula and pushing the situation there to the brink of a war,' the North's KCNA news agency said on Friday, citing the statement.

'This has created a dangerous situation in which a thermo-nuclear war may break out any moment on the peninsula and posed serious threat to the world peace and security, to say nothing of those in Northeast Asia,' it said.

Today the Kremlin called for 'restraint' as tensions escalate between North Korea and the United States.

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North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un was pictured this week overseeing a special forces commando operation, as leaders warned a war could break out imminently with the US

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North Korean officials warned President Trump against acting aggressively against the secretive state

China immediately responded, saying anyone provoking conflict will 'pay the price'.

China's foreign minister Wang Yi said today there would be 'no winner' in any war, as tensions mount with the US.

'Dialogue is the only possible solution', he told reporters in Beijing.

He stated: 'Lately, tensions have risen with the US and the ROK (Republic of Korea in the South) on one side, and the DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea in the North) on the other, and one has the feeling that a conflict could break out at any moment.

'If a war occurs, the result is a situation in which everybody loses and there can be no winner.'

Wang said that whichever side provoked a conflict 'must assume the historic responsibility and pay the corresponding price'.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists: 'Moscow is watching with great concern the escalation of tensions on the Korean peninsula. We call for restraint from all countries and warn countries not to pursue actions that could consist of any provocative steps.'

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Fully armed US Aircraft from the 18th Wing during the no-notice exercise in the Korean Peninsula

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US troops carrying out military exercises near the border between North and South Korea in Paju, South Korea, today as tensions escalate

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US Air Force 44th and 67th Fighter Squadron F-15 Eagles and 961st Airborne Air Control Squadron E-3 Sentries taxi down the runway in the joint drills with Japan which have provoked North Korean anger

North Korea blames Trump and the US for the rising tensions, according to Han, who cited US-South Korean wargames, the deployment of a US aircraft carrier to the peninsula last weekend, as well as Trump's recent tweets on Tuesday that the North is 'looking for trouble'.

Han's remarks, on the eve of the country's biggest national holiday, the 'Day of the Sun', were released hours after a member of the Trump administration denied a report claiming the US was prepared to launch a pre-emptive strike to halt any nuclear test at the weekend.

In the past week Trump has shown his willingness to launch military strikes, with US missiles deployed in Syria and Afghanistan.

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The tension around North Korea is high ahead of a major North Korean holiday, the birthday of its founding dictator Kim Il Sung, tomorrow

The US has been carrying out operations in the Korean peninsula alongside Japanese allies to enhance combat readiness

North Korea's vice foreign minister Han Song Ryol blamed President Donald Trump on Friday for 'making trouble' through his 'aggressive tweets'

He ordered air strikes on a Syrian air base in response to a chemical weapon attack and yesterday dropped the 'mother of all bombs' on a network of caves in Afghanistan, killing 36 ISIS fighters.

In another show of force, US military planes have been conducting military drills alongside Japan in the Korean peninsula.

On Tuesday the US President tweeted: 'North Korea is looking for trouble. If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them! U.S.A.'

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Trump's recent tweets on Tuesday said the North is 'looking for trouble'

Trump also called North Korea a 'menace' earlier this week and tweeted that if China doesn't do its part to rein in Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions, the US 'will solve the problem without them'.

Han said: 'As long as the nuclear threats and blackmail go on with the military exercises, we will carry forward with our national defense buildup, the core of which is the nuclear arms buildup.'

He also talked of a sixth nuclear test, saying: 'That is something that our headquarters decides. At a time and at a place where the headquarters deems necessary, it will take place.'

The North Korean official dismissed the suggestion Trump made last year during his presidential campaign that he was willing to meet Kim, possibly over hamburgers.

'I think that was nothing more than lip service during the campaign to make himself more popular," Han said.

'Now we are comparing Trump's policy toward the DPRK with the former administration's and we have concluded that it's becoming more vicious and more aggressive.'

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China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi warned there would be 'no winner' if a conflict broke out between the United States and North Korea

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Trump diverted the USS Carl Vinson (pictured in March) toward the Korean peninsula last weekend in a show of force against North Korea

'IT WAS LIKE THE BULLETS HAD EYES': KIM PRAISES TROOPS AFTER SPECIAL FORCES TRAINING DRILL
North Korean despot Kim Jong-un this week oversaw a special forces commando operation as tensions soar with Washington over Pyongyang's nuclear programme.

Pictures released by state media show the dictator looking on from an observation post and smiling as special forces troops dropped from light transport planes 'like hail' and 'mercilessly blew up enemy targets'.

According to the North's state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), Kim praised his troops for their precision, saying 'the bullets seemed to have their own eyes'.

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North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un has overseen a special forces commando operation, state media said on April 13. Pictured, an undated photo of the regime's special operation forces

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CIA director Mike Pompeo said North Korea was closer now than it had ever been to being able to threaten the United States with a nuclear-tipped intercontinental missile

It did not identify when and where the operation had been held.

The agency's report said: 'The contest proved once again that our Korean People's Army... will show a real taste of gun shot and real taste of war to the reckless invaders.'

The North has since said it is ready for war with the US, while speculation is mounting that it might conduct a nuclear or missile test to mark the 105th birthday anniversary of founder Kim Il-Sung on Saturday.

The reclusive state has long been on a quest to develop a long-range missile capable of hitting the US mainland with a nuclear warhead, and has so far staged five atomic tests, two of them last year.

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The smiling North Korean leader is seen watching his 'elite fighting force' on a military training exercise in photos released today

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The Rodong Sinmun - the official mouthpiece of the ruling Workers' Party - carried several photos from the contest showing firefight excercises

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Yesterday Kim oversaw a commando operation in which special forces dropped from light transport planes 'like hail' and 'mercilessly blew up enemy targets'

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Kim praised his troops for their precision in the training exercise (pictured), saying 'the bullets seemed to have their own eyes', state news agency KCNA said

US Vice President Mike Pence will embark on a 10-day visit to Asia, starting in South Korea on Sunday with contingency plans should it coincide with a nuclear test, a White House adviser said.

CIA director Mike Pompeo said North Korea was closer now than it had ever been to being able to threaten the United States with a nuclear-tipped intercontinental missile and increased its technical know-how with each new test.

Experts do not believe North Korea has a deliverable long-range nuclear weapon, or intercontinental missiles.

But that could change within the next few years, as experts say North Korea could have a viable nuclear warhead and a ballistic missile capable of hitting the US mainland during Trump's watch as president.

Aerial photos taken Tuesday show continued activity at the Punggye-ri Nuclear site where US officials fear a nuclear device has been installed in a tunnel ahead of another test.

And Han, referring to North Korea as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, said Friday: 'If the US comes with reckless military maneuvers then we will confront it with the DPRK's preemptive strike.

'We've got a powerful nuclear deterrent already in our hands, and we certainly will not keep our arms crossed in the face of a U.S. preemptive strike.'

The message had been echoed in the days before, when North Korea said it would launch a 'merciless retaliatory strike' against US military action.

Pyongyang also recently launched a ballistic missile and some experts say it could conduct another nuclear test at virtually anytime.


Satellite images of the Punggye-ri Nuclear Test Site taken on April 12 appears to show vehicles parked around the North Portal of the site. North Korean monitoring service 38 North said the facility is 'primed and ready' for a sixth nuclear test

North 38, which monitors North Korea, has released a series of picures with one showing how tarp covers pallets of equipment or supplies to protect them from view while workers have been seen walking around the site in another sign of activity at the site

But North Korea blames Trump and the US for the rising tensions, according to Han.

'Trump is always making provocations with his aggressive words. So that's why. It's not the DPRK but the U.S. and Trump that makes trouble,' he said.

The annual military exercises have consistently infuriated the North, which views them as rehearsals for an invasion.

Washington and Seoul deny that, but reports that exercises have included 'decapitation strikes' aimed at the North's leadership have fanned Pyongyang's anger.

U.S. Vice President Mike Pence will travel to South Korea on Sunday in what his aides said was a sign of the U.S. commitment to its ally

'Our stance toward their hostile policy is strident and clear-cut,' Han said. 'Now the Trump administration is thinking about several options as regards the DPRK. Those options include such reckless options as headquarter decapitation and the pre-emptive strike.

'Whatever comes from the US, we will cope with it. We are fully prepared to handle it.'

US intelligence officials told NBC if the US is convinced North Korea will follow through on a test, it can preemptively deploy Tomahawk missiles from two warships parked in the region.

Bombers are also being lined up in Guam, and cyber and special operations on the ground may be utilized, the officials said.

But a member of the administration shot down the idea, describing the report as 'flat wrong', while another official told Reuters it was 'speculative at best'.

The Pentagon declined comment, saying, as a policy, it does not discuss future operations 'nor publicly speculate on possible scenarios.'

U.S. Vice President Mike Pence will travel to South Korea on Sunday in what his aides said was a sign of the U.S. commitment to its ally.

Pence's Seoul stop kicks off a long-planned 10-day trip to Asia - his first as vice president - and comes amid concerns that Pyongyang could soon conduct its sixth nuclear test.

President Donald Trump has warned against further provocations, sending an aircraft carrier group to the region as a show of force. His officials have been assessing tougher economic sanctions as well as military options to curb North Korea's nuclear ambitions.

Pence plans to celebrate Easter with US and Korean troops on Sunday before talks on Monday with acting President Hwang Kyo-ahn.

'We're going to consult with the Republic of Korea on North Korea's efforts to advance its ballistic missile and its nuclear program,' a White House foreign policy adviser told reporters, previewing Pence's trip.

Pence will land in Seoul the day after North Korea's biggest national day, the 'Day of the Sun.'

The White House has contingency plans for Pence's trip should it coincide with a another North Korean nuclear test by its leader Kim Jong Un, the adviser said.

'Unfortunately, it's not a new surprise for us. He continues to develop this program, he continues to launch missiles into the Sea of Japan,' the adviser said.

'With the regime it's not a matter of if - it's when. We are well prepared to counter that,' the adviser said.

U.S. officials have played down the prospect of any military strike against North Korea, which would likely provoke massive North Korean retaliation and huge casualties in Japan and South Korea and among U.S. forces in both countries.

China, North Korea's sole major ally and neighbor, opposes its weapons program and has called for talks leading to a peaceful resolution and the denuclearization of the peninsula.

'Military force cannot resolve the issue,' Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told reporters in Beijing. 'Amid tensions we will also find a kind of opportunity to return to talks.'

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe also underscored fears about possible threats from North Korea, telling parliament in Tokyo that Pyongyang could have the capacity to deliver missiles equipped with sarin nerve gas.


Kim Jong-un made a public appearance in Pyongyang on Thursday, to open a housing project featuring residential tower blocks of various shapes - round, square and octagonal - with the tallest p

roclaimed as 70 storeys, or 234 metres, high, and including nearly 5,000 apartments in total.

Around 200 foreign journalists are in Pyongyang as the country marks the 105th anniversary of 'Day of the Sun'.

Officials had given no details as to the nature of a planned 'big' event today or where it would take place, and similar announcements in the past have been linked to relatively low-key set pieces. In the end, it turned out to be the grand unveiling of a block of flats.

In 2016, for example, foreign journalists underwent hours of investigation by North Korean officials ahead of what turned out to be a pop concert to mark the finale of a ruling Workers' Party congress.

US military officials fear North Korea has placed a nuclear test in a tunnel with the potential to detonate it on Saturday. Pictured: North Korean leader Kim Jong Un (left) flanked by vice-chairman of the State Affairs Commission Choe Yong-Hae at an opening ceremony for 'Rymoyong street', a new housing development in Pyongyang today


Tensions are high after Trump tweeted that he had 'a very good call' with Chinese leader Xi Jinping Tuesday night dealing with 'the menace of North Korea'

Washington-based 38 North, who monitors North Korea, has reported 'unusually high levels of activity' at the Punggye-ri Nuclear Test Site over the past four weeks.

New satellite imagery from April 2 showed there was more activity around the North Portal, which is the tunnel where the four most recent nuclear tests have taken place.

It was revealed that Kim Jong-Un had overseen a special forces commando operation, watching from an observation post as special forces dropped from light transport planes 'like hail' and 'mercilessly blew up enemy targets'.

With a broad smile on his face, Kim praised his troops for their precision, saying 'the bullets seemed to have their own eyes', KCNA said, without identifying when the operation was held.

The Rodong Sinmun - the official mouthpiece of the ruling Workers' Party - carried several photos from the contest including one of Kim watching the troops parachuting down from jets into an open field. Another showed him grinning from ear-to-ear as he walked by cheering soldiers.

 

[Stuttgart001]

I really appreciate that most of Pakistan friends expressed their oppinion supporting North Korea ,which is on the basis that DPRK's China's friend.
Nevetheless, the SOK has , in a matter of fact, a better relationship than DPRK with China until THAAD is deployed.
Even now, it is hard to say which one is jeopardizing China more.

Chinese and China government would never accept a nuclearize korean peninsula ,which is more a threaten than US's millitery force to China.

Maybe lots of Pakistan friends could not understand what the feeling is when Chinese people look at Kim regime with nukes.
It is just as the feeling when Pakistan people look at the taliban with nukes in hand .
For a long time, the influence on DPRK which China could have was quite limited, an further became close to zero since kim Jong un's uncle in law Jang Song Thaek, who is a pro-China official used to be 2nd powerest , got executed in 2013.

That is why North Korea send a mail for help to ASEAN rather than China.
So it is impossible that China will protect Kim regime if it don't halt the nuke and missile program.

 

[T-Rex]

China is between a rock and a hard place. There's hardly any room to maneuver.

 

[SMASTER]

They should do it asap.They would be doing this world a huge favor.

 

[master_13]

How are we guessing when it was your military that put out the statement quoted in Post#2. You are getting all flustered and grasping at straws.

Regional power China was told by Trump, shape up and do as we ask. Your President sat quietly and obediently next Trump at dinner while we bombed Syria and he went 'Oh shoot this man trump will go into NK into our backyard if I don't shape up'.

yep, US is a superpower, China and Russia are the only two regional powers which US media incessantly keep making as if we are superpowers, and what does that make India? Yep, that makes India a crap, since India is 10 tiers below china. There's simply no such thing as Indian economic and political projection.

China wont dare to demand NK. Shangai and Bejing are within striking distance of NK nukes.

lol, won't dare. NK nuke china would mean the demise of entire North Korea, while China suffers one single city. Same with the Indian nuke threat, Indian also love bragging how they can attack Beijing and Shanghai with their little kilo-ton nukes, the minute India does that, the entire India would be gone, blown away by Chinese mega-ton nukes, there wouldn't be any Indian left on that sub-continent.

HUH? Why would xi think Russia another small regional power like you, would care about NK?

Xi freaked out and had started doing what Trump ordered him to do. We see all these moves as proof.

lol, another bitter and jealous Indian who can't figure out why all the sudden Trump got bitch slapped by Xi and now promising not labeling China as currency manipulator. Mark my word, US will do another 180 turn and won't dare to start a trade war with China like that small hand Trump promised, he's scared shitless now he understands China can do just much damage to the American economy. Of course, Indians are now so jealous, disappointed and desperate and start making up little pathetic things like "Xi is doing what Trump order him to do", lol. China isn't India, Indian love selling its sovereignty like military bases to its American master and becoming an American's b***ch and then celebrate on the street because India has finally found a new white master.

 

[The SC]

At the time of the Syrian bombing, Trump was at dinner with Xi in Florida, when the news came to Trump through an aid he looked at Xi and told him, We have just bombed Iraq, and his aid said, bombed Syria? yes, yes we have just bombed Syria..