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Trump says considering 'brand new' immigration order
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US President Donald Trump said Friday he is considering drafting a new order to ban migrants from majority-Muslim nations after his initial decree fell afoul of the law.

Insisting that he has the law on his side despite two defeats in federal court in quick succession, Trump said security concerns may necessitate a quicker response than legal channels would allow.

“The unfortunate part is that it takes time statutorily, but we will win that battle. We also have a lot of other options, including just filing a brand new order,” he said, adding that any action would not come before next week.

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President Donald Trump and his wife Melania Trump arrive with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his wife Akie Abe on Air Force One in Florida.— AFP


The statement represents an embarrassing climbdown for Trump, who has insisted that the order was well drafted and who has nevertheless vowed to fight on in the courts.

“We need speed for reasons of security, so it very well could be,” Trump said when asked if his plan was to have a new measure drafted.

Trump said Friday at a joint press conference with visiting Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe that as president, he has learned of “tremendous threats to our country”.

“We'll be going forward and continuing to do things to make our country safe. It will happen rapidly,” he told reporters.

“We will not allow people into our country who are looking to do harm,” he said. “We will allow lots of people into our country that will love our people and do good for our country.”

'Whatever is necessary'
Trump's executive order issued in late January summarily denied entry to all refugees for 120 days, and travellers from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen for 90 days. Refugees from Syria were blocked indefinitely.

The White House has not provided any evidence to support Trump's view that a ban on travellers from the seven countries was urgently needed.

An appellate court decided unanimously on Thursday to maintain a block on Trump's order put in place by a lower court judge a week before.

The debacle has raised questions about the competence of Trump's White House in working through the practical and legal implications of the order.

The property mogul-turned-president was forced to sack the acting attorney general — an Obama administration holdover — after she refused to defend the order.

After first suggesting a quick appeal to the Supreme Court was off the table, US officials reversed course, insisting a legal challenge had not been dropped, including a possible motion to the high court.

“We're keeping all our options open,” one official said.

Nevertheless, an appeal on the temporary freeze in the lower courts now seems unlikely.

Earlier Friday, Trump vowed to do “whatever is necessary to keep our country safe”.

“We'll be doing something very rapidly having to do with additional security for our country. You'll be seeing that sometime next week,” the president said.

“In addition we will continue to go through the court process, and have no doubt we'll win that particular case,” he said.

'Disgraceful'
The measure — given with no notice — set off detentions of incoming travelers, protests at airports and international condemnation until a federal judge in Seattle stepped in and suspended the order a week later.

In upholding the suspension, the US court of appeals in San Francisco said Thursday the government had provided no evidence that any alien from the countries named in the order had carried out a terrorist attack on US soil.


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“We hold that the government has not shown a likelihood of success on the merits of its appeal, nor has it shown that failure to enter a stay would cause irreparable injury,” the three-judge appellate panel ruled.

Trump's initial reaction came minutes later on Twitter: “SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!” He followed up early Friday with a tweet calling the court's ruling "a disgraceful decision!"

Hundreds of immigrants arrested in 'routine' US enforcement surge
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In this Tuesday, Feb 7, photo released by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement shows foreign nationals being arrested this week during a targeted enforcement operation conducted by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Los Angeles.— AP
US federal immigration agents arrested hundreds of undocumented immigrants in at least four states this week in what officials on Friday called routine enforcement actions.

Reports of immigration sweeps this week sparked concern among immigration advocates and families, coming on the heels of President Donald Trump's executive order barring refugees and immigrants from seven majority-Muslim nations. That order is currently on hold.

“The fear coursing through immigrant homes and the native-born Americans who love immigrants as friends and family is palpable,” Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, said in a statement.

“Reports of raids in immigrant communities are a grave concern.”

The enforcement actions took place in Atlanta, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and surrounding areas, said David Marin, director of enforcement and removal for the Los Angeles field office of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Only five of 161 people arrested in Southern California would not have been enforcement priorities under the Obama administration, he said.

The agency did not release a total number of detainees. The Atlanta office, which covers three states, arrested 200 people, Bryan Cox, a spokesman for the office, said. The 161 arrests in the Los Angeles area were made in a region that included seven highly populated counties, Marin said.

Marin called the five-day operation an “enforcement surge”. In a conference call with reporters, he said that such actions were routine, pointing to one last summer in Los Angeles under former President Barack Obama.

“The rash of these recent reports about ICE checkpoints and random sweeps, that's all false and that's dangerous and irresponsible,” Marin said. “Reports like that create a panic.”

He said that of the people arrested in Southern California, only 10 did not have criminal records. Of those, five had prior deportation orders.

Michael Kagan, a professor of immigration law at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas, said immigration advocates are concerned that the arrests could signal the beginning of more aggressive enforcement and increased deportations under Trump.

“It sounds as if the majority are people who would have been priorities under Obama as well,” Kagan said in a telephone interview. “But the others may indicate the first edge of a new wave of arrests and deportations.”

Trump recently broadened the categories of people who could be targeted for immigration enforcement to anyone who had been charged with a crime, removing an Obama-era exception for people convicted of traffic misdemeanors, Kagan said.
 
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You might want to keep in mind that the 9th Circuit Has 80 Percent Reversal Rate At the Supreme Court:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/09/9...reversal-rate-at-supreme-court/#ixzz4YJWoSSkE

Trump set them up: the Libs are seen as risking national security for political gain. How can they expect not to lose more seats in the 2018 mid-term elections?

Oh the system of checks and balances will give them the lessons they need very quickly, as we can all see. :D



Yes, but why is the White House now redrafting the order if they are so sure of a win at SCOTUS?

You know, the "SEE YOU IN COURT" Tweet really made me lol hard this morning :rofl:

I thank him for the good laugh.
 
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Former Marine Flees Iraq After Facebook Warning About Iraqi Refugees Goes Viral
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A former U.S. Marine who works as a private security contractor in Iraq had to flee the country after his Facebook post warning of the dangers Americans face in the tumultuous country went viral.

Via Fox News Insider:

Steven Gern's video, which was posted from Iraq and has been viewed more than 44 million times, came just a few days after President Trump's executive order triggered massive protests at U.S. airports.

The order temporarily banned travel from seven Muslim-majority countries, including Iraq, Iran and Syria.

Gern relayed a short message about conversations he had about the controversial order with Iraqis. He said he asked them what would happen if he, an American, "went out in town."​


He asked the group, "would I be welcome? And they replied, 'Absolutely not. You would not be welcome,'" Gern recalled.

"They said the locals would snatch me up and kill me within an hour," said Gern. "I'd be tortured first, and after they were done torturing me, I'd probably be beheaded. It would go on video for everyone to see as an example."

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"This is the local populace that would do this," Gern pointed out. "This isn't ISIS, this isn't al Qaeda."

He said his question to them was pretty simple: "If you would do this to me in your country, why would I let you in my country?"


Gern went on to say that Americans need to understand that this is the way some of these cultures feel about them.

"Why would you be so 'naive' to believe that if they came to the United States they would do anything different that they would do right here in their own country?" Gern asked.

He was on Fox News' Hannity Friday night to discuss his video, which had been posted on Facebook one recent evening at 11:00 pm. He told Sean that he was surprised that at 5:00 a.m. the next morning it had garnered over a million views.

Gern said after it hit over five million views he was called into his company's office where he was told he would have to be removed due to "safety issues."

Ominously, Gern warned that there's really no good way to vet some of these people.

"What I have learned over the years of working in Iraq and Afghanistan is, they are very good at manipulation. They can manipulate just about anyone. They're really good at it. They can tell you what they want you to hear. They can keep that up for many, many years, and then eventually when it's time, they'll do what they believe is right. And if that is to hurt an American or hurt many of us at one time, they're going to do it," he said.

 
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U.S. President Trump to issue new executive order on immigration

WASHINGTON, Feb.16 (Xinhua) -- U.S. President Donald Trump said Thursday he will rescind his controversial executive order temporarily barring entry to refugees and immigrants and replace it with a new one next week.


"The new order is going to be very much tailored to what I consider to be a very bad decision," said Trump during a news conference in the White House, referring to a decision by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that blocked his travel ban earlier this month.

The travel ban is aimed at what the president said to keep out "radical Islamic terrorists."

"We are issuing a new executive action next week that will comprehensively protect our country," Trump said.

Also on Thursday, the Department of Justice asked the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals not to review a decision by a three-judge panel to keep the immigration policy on hold while it moves through the legal system, citing plans to soon replace the order with a "superseding" one.

"Rather than continuing this litigation, the president intends in the near future to rescind the order and replace it with a new, substantially revised Executive Order to eliminate what the panel erroneously thought were constitutional concerns," the department said in a document to the court of appeals.

"In so doing, the president will clear the way for immediately protecting the country rather than pursuing further, potentially time-consuming litigation," it said.

On Feb. 9, three judges sitting on the motions panel of the U.S. Courts of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, based in San Francisco, wrote unanimously at the end of the ruling: "the emergency motion for a stay pending appeal is DENIED."

The motion, by the U.S. Department of Justice on behalf the White House, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of State, was to overrule a temporary restraining order (TRO) imposed by a lower court judge against the travel ban.

In response at the time, Trump tweeted "SEE YOU IN COURT," vowing to win the legal battle in the end, while accusing the court of appeals of making a "political decision."

Trump signed the controversial executive order on Jan. 27, which temporarily bars U.S. entry to all refugees and citizens from seven Muslim-majority countries including Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen. The travel ban almost immediately sparked nationwide protests and worldwide criticism.
 
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New US travel ban to spare green card holders: Trump official
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Published: February 19, 2017
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A new version of a Trump administration travel ban will not stop green card residency holders or travelers already on planes from entering the United States, US Secretary for Homeland Security John Kelly said on Saturday.

US President Donald Trump’s initial attempt to clamp down for security reasons on immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries and on refugees snarled to a halt amid a judicial backlash and chaos at airports.

“The president is contemplating releasing a tighter, more streamlined version of the first (order). And I will have opportunity to work (on) a rollout plan, in particular to make sure that there’s no one in a sense caught in the system of moving from overseas to our airports,” Kelly said at the Munich Security Conference.

Trump says new order on refugees is not a Muslim ban

Asked whether green card residency permit holders would be allowed in, Kelly said: “It’s a good assumption and, as far as the visas go, … if they’re in motion from some distant land to the United States, when they arrive they will be allowed in.”

He promised “a short phase-in period to make sure that people on the other end don’t get on airplanes. But if they’re on an airplane and inbound, they’ll be allowed to enter the country.”

A draft of the replacement executive order shows that the administration aims to put restrictions on citizens of the same seven Muslim-majority countries covered by the initial order, according to the Wall Street Journal, which cites an internal State Department memo.

Trump senior adviser defends Muslim ban with massacre that never happened

The replacement order could be issued as early as Tuesday, the Journal reported, citing a US government official.

The administration would seek to implement the new order a week to two weeks after it is signed, and covers citizens from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen, the Journal said.

Trump’s original order, which he said was meant to head off attacks by Islamist militants, barred people from those same countries from entering for 90 days and excluded all refugees for 120 days, except those from Syria, who were banned indefinitely.

The abrupt implementation of the order last month plunged the immigration system into chaos, sparking a wave of criticism from the countries affected, and from Western allies and some of America’s leading corporations, especially technology firms.
 
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Certainly agree with 51% of Americans who voted for Hilary Clinton and for the demonstrator who have made a valid case , 150 million people can't be assumed to be Terrorist by birth association

As for the comments about the "Contractor" person , who posted his own personal views, it is a bit difficult to see why would a person who himself hold a gun in someone else's country , involved in unauthorized killing above the law , would be advocating about humanitarian laws and trying to criminalize people who have intent to work , learn or socialize.

It is quite hypocritical that he himself is a killing machine , and he sees others in his own light or image

It would have been appropriate "context" had he described his role, as an enforcer and a person who shots first and asks questions later. He would have explained to audience that he is not answerable to any law (local , US, or internationol) if he kills anyone , he is a mere contractor he will vanish into thin air. Perhaps he should have disclosed how many times he may have killed or broken any laws of country he was assigned.

Profile of Acuser:
  • May have killed on duty , May have injured another human
  • Talks all cash cash cash, after all he was in Iraq not long ago
  • Can somone list all the people this machine / cyborg killed
 
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With battle of Mosul almost wrapped up, Donald takes Iraq off ban list.
 
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Hawaii judge freezes Trump's revised travel ban
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US President Donald Trump speaks during a rally in Nashville, Tennessee on March 15.— AFP
A federal court in Hawaii on Wednesday halted Donald Trump's revised executive order temporarily closing US borders to refugees and nationals from six Muslim-majority countries, dealing the president a humiliating fresh defeat.

US District Judge Derrick Watson ruled that the state of Hawaii, in its legal challenge to the order, had established a strong likelihood that the ban would cause “irreparable injury” were it to go ahead.

The court in Honolulu was the first to rule in a trio of legal challenges against the ban, which had been set to go into effect at midnight.

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Decisions were expected later Wednesday from federal courts in Washington state and Maryland. The ruling means a nationwide freeze on enforcement of section two of the order, banning entry by nationals of Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen for 90 days.

It also halts section six, which would have suspended the US refugee admissions program for 120 days.

Trump quickly vowed to fight the “flawed” ruling all the way to the Supreme Court if required, describing it as “unprecedented judicial overreach”.

“The law in the constitution gave the president the power to suspend immigration when he deems it to be in the national interest of our country,” he said at a speech in Nashville, Tennessee, adding: “We are going to win.”

The Hawaii court said however it would not stay its decision in the event of an appeal, meaning the ban cannot go ahead as planned on Thursday regardless of any action the White House takes.

A decision in the other two courts to support the ban cannot overturn the decision in Hawaii, which would need to be challenged in an appeals court.

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Muslim ban?
The Trump administration's wide-ranging initial travel restrictions imposed on January 27 were slapped down by the federal courts, after sparking a legal, political and logistical furor.

Trump signed a revised ban behind closed doors on March 6 with a reduced scope, exempting Iraqis and permanent US residents but maintaining the temporary ban on the other six countries and refugees.

The White House said those six countries were targeted because their screening and information capabilities could not meet US security requirements.

But Watson rejected the White House claim that the order wasn't a Muslim ban, ruling that it would not be a leap “to conclude that targeting these countries likewise targets Islam”, because their Muslim populations range from 90.7 per cent to 99.8pc.

The judge made reference to several examples of Trump explicitly framing proposed action on immigration in religious language, including a March 2016 interview during which the then president-elect said: “I think Islam hates us.”

“Mr Trump was asked, 'Is there a war between the West and radical Islam, or between the West and Islam itself?' He replied: 'It's very hard to separate. Because you don't know who's who,'” the judge added.

In Greenbelt, Maryland, Judge Theodore Chuang was expected to rule on a complaint filed by a coalition of advocacy groups that the amended order discriminates against Muslims.

“In his mind, the danger of Muslims and the danger of refugees is all combined danger,” Omar Jadwat, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union, said of the president.

The group said it was “pleased but not surprised” by the Hawaii ruling, while New York Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman hailed the decision as “yet another victory for the Constitution and the rule of law”.

The first version of Trump's order triggered protests at home and abroad as well as chaos at US airports as people were detained upon arrival and either held for hours or sent back to where they came from. The Trump administration narrowed the restrictions in its revised order to try to ensure it would be unassailable this time around.

“This order doesn't draw any religious distinction at all,” said Jeffrey Wall, a government attorney.

Questioned about Trump's tweets and statements during the presidential campaign in which he promised to enact a “Muslim ban”, Wall said: “There is a difference between a president and a candidate.”

Coast to coast
But critics say the new order essentially remains a ban on Muslims coming to the United States, and therefore unconstitutional because it singles out followers of a certain religion for discrimination.

Since September 11, 2001, the worst attacks in the US have been committed either by radicalised Americans or by people from countries not on the Trump travel ban list.

Critics also argue that it will have a very negative effect on schools, universities and the business world, mainly the high tech sector, which employs many highly skilled immigrants.

The state of Washington, joined by five other states, filed a complaint Monday with the same Seattle judge who stayed Trump's original travel ban in February.

Trump responded by insulting that federal magistrate, James Robart, calling him a “so-called judge”. Robart will oversee the Washington state hearing on Wednesday and he could once again suspend all or part of the new order.
 
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