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Pregnant Wife of Islamist shot dead during prison attack in France

Agreed on the point that threats have changed and France should ensure rethinking its policies about training of those units. And specially against people jailed for terrorisms.

After all, who say special guest, should say specials rules also.
It's not training the problem... The training is fine... Instructors are extremely competent in what they are doing...
The "Worker" is the problem... The Qualification lvl is the problem... The psychological report we are doing is "rapidly" seen by the Administration... Because they don't feel that such Jobs need such advanced qualification... They think a Well build guy...with proper French and some basic skill in memorization/writing is all you need for that job... Even during Training after being chosen... Those who aren't that good in maintaining their composure/or dealing with stressful situations ARE still kept in the program... Because of "It's ok, let's not waste more ressources and we need Him/her to do the job later on..."
 
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It's not training the problem... The training is fine... Instructors are extremely competent in what they are doing...
The "Worker" is the problem... The Qualification lvl is the problem... The psychological report we are doing is "rapidly" seen by the Administration... Because they don't feel that such Jobs need such advanced qualification... They think a Well build guy...with proper French and some basic skill in memorization/writing is all you need for that job... Even during Training after being chosen... Those who aren't that good in maintaining their composure/or dealing with stressful situations ARE still kept in the program... Because of "It's ok, let's not waste more ressources and we need Him/her to do the job later on..."

My bad I forgot the selection process. We should rethink all organisation of jails. But it requires time and of cours money. Keeping in mind that french prisons are already over crowded.

And unfortunately we are in trend of reducing public expenses.
 
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I am talking more about how she managed to slip him something?
2ndly, it isnt like she is the only person who managed...maybe they need to channel in their powers on closing such loopholes!
such loopholes are impossible to stop... in prison goods are traded through barter and barter could be in the form of work, sex or food... if monetary trade is not allowed it will not stop...

The jailed was sentenced to 30 years in appeal for a robbery which led to the death of a 89 years old man (an holocaust survivor) who died of asphyxia after being tied,only to get away with 300 euros and few medals. He's not in jail by pure coincidence.

Secondly the police tried to settle the situation peacefully before launching an assault,after 9 hours of negociations.

During the assault,his wife,Hanane Aboulhana rushed to the police team and later died because of her wounds. Her husband was also injured,but less seriously.
i don't blame the officers at all... like my first comment which was misunderstood... she got what she deserved, karma
 
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It’s not about humans rights.

She was neutralised ( not killed) but she died of her wounds.
The French Police (GIGN, RAID, and others special groups) are among the bests in the world. They know how to tackle events like this, but actions are happening at such speed that even if they are the best, shot a millimetre right or left, issue could be fatal.
Human right!
 
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Could've thought about the unborn Child before being stupid. :angry:

Indian army killed Pakistani prisoner blamed it on prisoners, same is the case here.
Some hater killed a pregnant women on women day, now French state can't go and tell the truth to public. So they made up this nonsense.
Otherwise CCTV footage would have been shown.
There must be independent investigation of both incidents.
 
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Human right!

The woman and her husband told that were ready to die.

When they told that, Police understood that there will be no other issue than death.

When assault was launched after 9 hours long negotiation, and due to the reaction of the woman, Police doesn’t have any other choice than fire upon her. The main risk was that there could have been explosives.

So all in all, there is no issue about humans right, but safety concerns only.

If you are bothered by humans right then the first question you should ask is to woman herself : why she did that knowing that she was pregnant ? Same question for his husband !
 
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The woman and her husband told that were ready to die.

When they told that, Police understood that there will be no other issue than death.

When assault was launched after 9 hours long negotiation, and due to the reaction of the woman, Police doesn’t have any other choice than fire upon her. The main risk was that there could have been explosives.

So all in all, there is no issue about humans right, but safety concerns only.

If you are bothered by humans right then the first question you should ask is to woman herself : why she did that knowing that she was pregnant ? Same question for his husband !
I dont care
It's called human rights, follow them
 
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The pregnant wife of an Islamist murderer was shot dead by police at a prison yesterday after he stabbed two guards during a visit.

The woman, who has not been named, died when officers stormed a family room in which Michaël Chiolo, 27, had locked himself after seriously wounding the guards at the high-security Condé-sur-Sarthe prison in Normandy.

The woman had smuggled in the ceramic knife he used to carry out the stabbings “in the name of Allah”, a police spokesman said.

Alassanne Sall, a prison staff representative, said that one of the guards suffered a serious chest wound and that the other was slashed in the face and back.

“It was truly a murder attempt,” he said. “There was blood everywhere. The family visiting unit was a battle scene.”

Officers used stun grenades as they entered the room to detain the prisoner. Nicole Belloubet, France’s justice minister, said that there was “no doubt as to the terrorist nature” of the incident.

Witnesses were said to have suggested that Chiolo had expressed a wish to avenge the death of Cheriff Chekatt, who was shot dead by police after killing five people and wounding 11 at a Christmas market in Strasbourg in December.

Chiolo was sentenced to 30 years in prison in 2014 for killing a Holocaust survivor. While in prison he was sentenced to a further year for asking fellow inmates to “re-enact” an attack by Isis gunmen on the Bataclan concert hall in Paris in November 2015.

Prison staff in France have been calling for better working conditions. In January last year guards held three weeks of protests after one of their number was attacked by a jihadist inmate at a high-security jail in northern France.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/wife-of-islamist-shot-dead-in-france-prison-attack-z6phvf6sc
Why the hell she broke the law? Let's not make her a victim here.
 
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