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Pradeep Kumar, You Did Pakistan Proud!

Any wonder the likes of Taj Bahadur openly cry on social media for even an Indian soldiers basic nessesaties are siphoned off by his seniors.
The only other uniformed personal I have seen crying on social media for food were Afghan Army soldiers.
they both have same war plans :lol:
 
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Give some credit to this hard working pakistani girl.

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This embarrassment never ends. IA can possibly force the troops to take up a hobby and keep away from smart phones in their free time. But I doubt that it will be really successful. At the very least, I hope Indian sleuths are playing the same tricks and are equally successful at it :D
 
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Give some credit to this hard working pakistani girl.

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Lol you dumb F, it's an intelligence Millitary officer sending you fake bobs, vagina pics from the internet
That's the funny part- it's from the internet, it's not a real person sending you that crap

This picture is of a random Pakistani girl that your Pajeet News papers picked from the internet - it's disgusting, she probably has family, friends, husband
How can you violate her privacy like that by humiliating some random woman?
 
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Lol you dumb F, it's an intelligence Millitary officer sending you fake bobs, vagina pics from the internet
That's the funny part- it's from the internet, it's not a real person sending you that crap

This picture is of a random Pakistani girl that you Pajeet News papers picked from the internet - it's disgusting, she probably has family, friends, husband
How can you violate her privacy like that?
...actually, it may even be a completely AI generated image.

 
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This embarrassment never ends. IA can possibly force the troops to take up a hobby and keep away from smart phones in their free time. But I doubt that it will be really successful. At the very least, I hope Indian sleuths are playing the same tricks and are equally successful at it :D

I actually find these incidents quite incredulous. I mean doesn't it strike the compromised person even once that he is doing something strange? Or why the woman is requesting for sensitive information. As per this India Today article, the man in question is just 24 years old. How much does the establishment trust a 24 year old with sensitive information? He went from Jodhpur to Delhi to get this information. I am sure travel approvals and reason for visit must have been filed. Just how much porous is the system exactly?

 
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I actually find these incidents quite incredulous. I mean doesn't it strike the compromised person even once that he is doing something strange? Or why the woman is requesting for sensitive information. As per this India Today article, the man in question is just 24 years old. How much does the establishment trust a 24 year old with sensitive information? He went from Jodhpur to Delhi to get this information. I am sure travel approvals and reason for visit must have been filed. Just how much porous is the system exactly?

It is not so surprising for me.

a. People are often naive about what to believe and what not to believe on the internet. This could be more of a problem for Indians from rural parts of the country as they are not exposed to online interactions because of lower internet penetration in the rural areas.
b. The 'women' who interact with young males will likely first 'prove' that they are real by pictures, some recorded videos or video calls. Online profiles etc. can all be faked with some time and effort. Then the 'women' are likely to ask the victims to 'prove' that they are placed in XYZ area with pictures etc. Slowly ask to see more and more details like recce. The relationship itself could go on for years at a time.

Perhaps, the only long term solution would be to educate children about the fickle nature of interactions in social media from school. :undecided:
 
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a. People are often naive about what to believe and what not to believe on the internet. This could be more of a problem for Indians from rural parts of the country as they are not exposed to online interactions because lower penetration of internet in rural areas.

If the person can be trusted with sensitive information, I would assume that he is at some level of importance (if not seniority) and this should be supported by him having better sense and therefore being able to identify threats. If this is not the case, it is very concerning.

The relationship itself could go on for years at a time.

Yes, its possible that people are being cultivated for years.

Perhaps, the only long term solution would be to educate children about the fickle nature of interactions in social media from school. :undecided:

If the military is not already training and sensitising its personnel about such threats, I am frankly alarmed. I mean the entire forces could be at least informed about such things through a circular in a matter of days. I am inclined to believe that such people know exactly what they are doing (the "what", not "with whom"), but the urge to form a relationship with an attractive woman is just too strong for them.
 
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If the person can be trusted with sensitive information, I would assume that he is at some level of importance (if not seniority) and this should be supported by him having better sense and therefore being able to identify threats. If this is not the case, it is very concerning.

If the military is not already training and sensitising its personnel about such threats, I am frankly alarmed. I mean the entire forces could be at least informed about such things through a circular in a matter of days. I am inclined to believe that such people know exactly what they are doing (the "what", not "with whom"), but the urge to form a relationship with an attractive woman is just too strong for them.
In most cases, I believe the assets who are groomed and honey trapped to provide low level details that are not too sensitive. This incident may also be one such case - a simple recce of the area. But later on, the same assets can be blackmailed for more serious information if they progress in their career.

I'm sure that the armed forces educate the personnel about such cases with routine exercise. It may even be sufficient to thwart 99% of such attacks, but 1% success is all that the attacker is looking for. Deception is successful because the threat agent is able to win the trust of the gullible party before any demands are made. The victim in this case was decieved into thinking that he was in a relationship with another Indian, not a Pakistani. Real awareness is possible only when we have an instinctive and not a rational response for such overtures. Only training from a young age can give an instinctive cynical response to these type of attacks in general population :unsure:
 
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This is fact of great achievement of women versus man relationships in Indian Pakistani issue. Nevertheless all the comments are focusing on how great or how the ISI pulled it off. The question to each & every one of the users on this thread is :
Are you successful in Online dating in Western websites?
Have you ever pulled a date on those websites?
Do you know the success to failure ratio on getting an REAL date on these websites?

That is why what ISI did was unthinkable in online dating topics and some Indian Army officer fell for the trap, clear & simple in facing the odds.
 
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Lol you dumb F, it's an intelligence Millitary officer sending you fake bobs, vagina pics from the internet
That's the funny part- it's from the internet, it's not a real person sending you that crap
LOL you are even dumber. Do u even what goes in these so-called honeytrap?

If you do feel bad to admit it,

Let me explain how they " honeytrap" which is form of blackmail.

1. First these girls create accounts with Indian names and identities and not pakistani.

2. Then they target soldiers with the intention to become friends with them.

3. Then they have start have explict/sexual video chats with the target soldier who thinks he is in relationship or even marry this girl.

4. Then they reveal their true identity as pakistan, only to blackmail them having videos of their chats.

5. This blackmail is sweetened with offer of money if soldier is willing to spy for pakistan and provide intel.
 
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LOL you are even dumber. Do u even what goes in these so-called honeytrap?

If you do feel bad to admit it,

Let me explain how they " honeytrap" which is form of blackmail.

1. First these girls create accounts with Indian names and identities and not pakistani.

2. Then they target soldiers with the intention to become friends with them.

3. Then they have start have explict/sexual video chats with the target soldier who thinks he is in relationship or even marry this girl.

4. Then they reveal their true identity as pakistan, only to blackmail them having videos of their chats.

5. This is blackmail is sweetened with offer of money if soldiers is willing to spy for pakistan and provide intel.
I think you are giving to much credit to these guys. She(?) offered him marriage, seems like a desperate lonely guy who was eager for some affection.

The classic honey pot involves actual sex which is why these honeypots of Indian officers makes even less sense.

I think its easier for you to accept that an officer can be swayed by sex and or sexual interaction online cuz the alternative sounds so absurd to everyone but you are just assuming that is the case here. Had it been i am sure sensational Indian media would have reported that aspect.

The larger issue is what Jekyll posted above about such a young guy having such easy access to classified info and being able to easily move between cities and im assuming bases to access classified information.
 
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