Possible War with India

[Serious Carrey]

I didn't even see the original post ,
Kudos but calm yourself

Discussion and calmness are not mutually exclusive events.

And congrats on your neutrality.

 

[SQ8]

Who told you that Arabs are friendly to India? We know how hostile Arabs are. KSA gave Modi Abdul Azziz Award, highest civilian award in just 2 years of office.

Do you thin it is a bluff? It is a threat to destroy oil supply of the world. Arabs don't have food and refugee crisis will worsen situation. There is no blackmail but favour for return favour. We are only saying this:

Muslims are an existential threat to us because of their philosophy of jihad.But, the world is dependent on oil supply from middle east, and Indian attack and expulsion will cause global oil supply problems. So, we are willing to tolerate muslims for some time. But in return for tolerating existential threats, India be given a good share of world resources, as investment. You have two choices:

1. Buy time to prepare a war after some time and in the mean time make an arrangement with us to supply us with investment
2. Refuse cooperation, cut oil supply or make problems to us and we will initiate war and in the process destroy middle east and hence oil supply

Why the first option is being chosen:

• Middle east is controlled by USA and any war will result in USA gaining full control over oil fields and Arabs will become slaves of west
• Arabs don't have any Army and need time to build one- Islamic Military Alliance. So, time to build an army is needed
• The external players like China, USA, NATO etc don't want war and hence pressurise Arabs and India to compromise
• Arabs have lot of economy dependent on expat workers which also needs replacement in case of critical jobs like in oil industry etc
• Arabs need time for indigenisation of weapons and buying of arms

As of now, many developments have happened:

• Arabs have asked USA to not buy Arab oil. USA started to increase shale oil and even started to give statements that USA is now self sufficient and none can threaten it on oil
• Arabs have asked USA to leave Middle East and hence develop their own Islamic Military Alliance
• Arabs have been influencing elections in USA which can help in getting USA down internally
• KSA is having $80 billion budget for military for a reason

We are not at peace but at truce in the middle of a war. We know that muslims have Jihad ideology and don't agree to reason. We are no fools to simply make fake assumptions of peace. If i am right, once USA leaves Arab land, Arabs will change their behaviour.

Please take your ignorance out of this forum.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Did you meet each and every Pakistan living abroad?

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-some-Pakistanis-abroad-introduce-themselves-as-Indians

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/drisht...-americans-pass-themselves-off-as-indian-now/

Quora? Cant take that serious! In UK and Europe Pakistanis owned businesses have Pakistani city/Islamic themed names. Never come across a Pakistani who claims to be an Indian.

 

[Serious Carrey]

Quora? Cant take that serious! In UK and Europe Pakistanis owned businesses have Pakistani city/Islamic themed names. Never come across a Pakistani who claims to be an Indian.

I came across a good number of Pakistan shops that pass off as Indians'. I remember there were threads on PDF itself discussing this topic. See if you can search.

By the way, Quora is not a junk site.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Pakistan cannot be destroyed without Allah's will and as a muslim one should put its faith in Allah than a bunch of banias.

Pakistan has done little for Muslims. I put my faith in Allah SWT but you must use the brain given by Him. There is no chance of you actually winning a conventional war with India.
Our condition will also worsen and Hindus and Sikhs will hound us for real of imaginary sympathy with Pakistan.

Given time we will eventually be the masters but that must come naturally. Not external armed aggression.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Go call the Uzbek President Shavkat Mirziyoyev if you want to conquer Delhi back. Just to refresh you Babar the Moghul was from Ferhgana, modern day Uzbekistan.

Shavkat Mirziyoyev

You will need the Uzbek Army !

As per this professor Babur came from KYRGYZSTAN

 

[Samurai_assassin]

I came across a good number of Pakistan shops that pass off as Indians'. I remember there were threads on PDF itself discussing this topic. See if you can search.

By the way, Quora is not a junk site.

Your opinion differers to mine and I've visited various towns and cities across UK and have relatives dotted across the country and Europe. The vast Pak owned business I've come across use names of villages/towns and cities of the owners heritage such as Lahore, Mirpur, Kotli etc nobody uses the names of Indian cities. Quora is not a legitimate news source its people's opinions and experiences just like mine and yours.

 

[IceCold]

Pakistan has done little for Muslims. I put my faith in Allah SWT but you must use the brain given by Him. There is no chance of you actually winning a conventional war with India.
Our condition will also worsen and Hindus and Sikhs will hound us for real of imaginary sympathy with Pakistan.

Given time we will eventually be the masters but that must come naturally. Not external armed aggression.

Pakistan is for Pakistanis only. Last time we tried to do something for the so called Afghan muslims, look how they repaid us. If there is no chance of wining a conventional war with India, there is no chance of losing it either. Pakistan today is strong enough to hold off any conventional Indian aggression.
Sikhs have learned their lessons for trusting Hindus and they wont this time.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Pakistan has done little for Muslims. I put my faith in Allah SWT but you must use the brain given by Him. There is no chance of you actually winning a conventional war with India.
Our condition will also worsen and Hindus and Sikhs will hound us for real of imaginary sympathy with Pakistan.

Given time we will eventually be the masters but that must come naturally. Not external armed aggression.

And what are the chances of India winning a conventional war against Pakistan? Any war will drag on for years and equally hurt India as it would to Pakistan, dynamics of war have changed look at Syria Afghanistan Libya etc. Once your dragged in there is no chance of escape. Pakistan is not responsible for the Muslims of India, whatever you chose to do for your country is your right. Pakistanis do not depend on Indian Muslims to side with.

 

[Adonis]

And what are the chances of India winning a conventional war against Pakistan? Any war will drag on for years and equally hurt India as it would to Pakistan, dynamics of war have changed look at Syria Afghanistan Libya etc. Once your dragged in there is no chance of escape. Pakistan is not responsible for the Muslims of India, whatever you chose to do for your country is your right. Pakistanis do not depend on Indian Muslims to side with.

If that happens

1. India will not be fighting alone but with able support of Israel/US.....Try to understand the bigger picture. What is the main objective of US with regards to Pakistan...to de-nuclearise it .... so How? by allowing Pakistan to use nuke first (as an excuse) and then gathering the whole world to dis arm Pakistan. How? by asking India to go inside Pakistan, to which Pakistan will retaliate with it's tactical nuke (as per it's declared strategy)....in this way lass loss to India (since it will be Pakistan mainland) and by compelling Pak to use Nuke, it can easily gain world support to fulfil it's objective.....
2. It will not drag on for long.....they already know Pakistan has never been so week economically, politically ..so they know when is the right time.

My two cents......

 

[El Sidd]

If

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Else

Result is the same

 

[IceCold]

If that happens

1. India will not be fighting alone but with able support of Israel/US.....Try to understand the bigger picture. What is the main objective of US with regards to Pakistan...to de-nuclearise it .... so How? by allowing Pakistan to use nuke first (as an excuse) and then gathering the whole world to dis arm Pakistan. How? by asking India to go inside Pakistan, to which Pakistan will retaliate with it's tactical nuke (as per it's declared strategy)....in this way lass loss to India (since it will be Pakistan mainland) and by compelling Pak to use Nuke, it can easily gain world support to fulfil it's objective.....
2. It will not drag on for long.....they already know Pakistan has never been so week economically, politically ..so they know when is the right time.

My two cents......

So India will be fighting with US and Israel support and Pakistan would be all alone? You guys have delusions of grandeur.

 

[Adonis]

So India will be fighting with US and Israel support and Pakistan would be all alone? You guys have delusions of grandeur.

.... Did you get the theme I wanted to convey?... they will provide intelligence/logistic (weaponry) support.....they'll do so as it's their interest to de-nuclearize Pakistan...not because they want India to win.
Besides, Whom do you think will fight alongwith Pakistan? China? Russia?......

 

[IceCold]

.... Did you get the theme I wanted to convey?... they will provide intelligence/logistic (weaponry) support.....they'll do so as it's their interest to de-nuclearize Pakistan...not because they want India to win.
Besides, Whom do you think will fight alongwith Pakistan? China? Russia?......

There was no theme but only delusions. First of all US will never ever become a party to India Pakistan conflict because that would mean inviting China to become one too. And if India will get intelligence from Israel, so will Pakistan from other sources mainly China. Pakistan is already using Chinese navigation system. We will not be dependent on GPS for our missiles. De-denuclearizing is a wet dream that only Indians have on the internet. It is no longer possible to de denuclearize a nation by war.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

If that happens

1. India will not be fighting alone but with able support of Israel/US.....Try to understand the bigger picture. What is the main objective of US with regards to Pakistan...to de-nuclearise it .... so How? by allowing Pakistan to use nuke first (as an excuse) and then gathering the whole world to dis arm Pakistan. How? by asking India to go inside Pakistan, to which Pakistan will retaliate with it's tactical nuke (as per it's declared strategy)....in this way lass loss to India (since it will be Pakistan mainland) and by compelling Pak to use Nuke, it can easily gain world support to fulfil it's objective.....
2. It will not drag on for long.....they already know Pakistan has never been so week economically, politically ..so they know when is the right time.

My two cents......

What makes you think the general population will not take up arms and defend their lands and communities? ordinary Pakistani citizens already have access to firearms and will attack Indian soldiers.