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Yes they do, make it 4500km range real thing look for facts and do not answer based on emotion alone, please.
Shaheen III
india admitting that they are no where near to pakistan missile technology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj8kULBHwyM&feature=related
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pakistan needs a true icbm from china though.
when was ghauri 3 tested broo.
loll ur missiles are max 2200, while agi 3 can go over 7000km depending on warhead. pakistan getting owned
when was ghauri 3 tested broo.
loll ur missiles are max 2200, while agi 3 can go over 7000km depending on warhead. pakistan getting owned
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India's major cities and most of it is covered in our range, rest can go to China or Bangladesh since Bangladesh wants rest of Bengal.
range doest matter agni 5 has more warhead capacity. more destrution will happen on ur country.
when was it tested?
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PunjabiMunda, we do not need ICBM to counter India we already have Shaheen II and that covers whole India.
But we are also making Taimur ICBM if you have questions about ICBM's of Pakistan.
PunjabiMunda, like I said, your missile will crash once it takes off. It's actually more destruction in your country. Alot of Muslim heroes fought with their wits instead of force.
You do not need mcuh force, all you need is wits to know India's missile will crash and you've already won the game.
But we are also making Taimur ICBM if you have questions about ICBM's of Pakistan.
PunjabiMunda, like I said, your missile will crash once it takes off. It's actually more destruction in your country. Alot of Muslim heroes fought with their wits instead of force.
You do not need mcuh force, all you need is wits to know India's missile will crash and you've already won the game.
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yup agreed finally someone says the right thing. dude icewolf ur funny, i dont understand ur posts sometime. when ur icbm is ready then he has the right to bully is until then
just one week left lets see what happens
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I don't understand you. All I'm saying is we don't need big weapon to counter India when normal weapon can do the same job and destruction.
One week for what?
One week for what?
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one week for test dude
Oh...,.........
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Look at this India can't even shield against missiles
India's missile interceptor test fails | The Jakarta Post
India's missile interceptor test fails | The Jakarta Post
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Here is an old article about Pakistan ICBMs
By Arthur Volbert
The most serious post-9/11 blunder was made immediately following the attack. It was solely the blunder of the Bush Administration. Jewish groups and Israel were in no way involved. But this blunder affects Jewish groups and Israel tremendously.
What was the Bush Administration thinking when it threatened to bomb Pakistan back to the Stone Age if it did not start killing its Taliban allies? Pakistan is a nuclear power, and is developing into a full-fledged nuclear power. Pervez Musharraf made a tactical decision when Richard Armitage threatened to bomb Pakistan if it did not support us. Whether or not Armitage used the words “back to the Stone Age”, it is clear he conveyed that meaning when translated into Urdu. Back in 2001 Pakistan did not have enough bombs or sufficient missile delivery systems to challenge the United States. So Musharraf made the logical decision to support us immediately and enthusiastically while building up his nuclear deterrent as quickly as possible. His tactical alliance with us enabled him to build this deterrent with virtually no interference from America.
When the United States invaded Iraq with the explanation that Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction, and later this was found to be false, there was a question in America whether this was a result of faulty intelligence or outright lying. In Pakistan there can be no question that this was an outright lie. If it were faulty intelligence the Bush Administration would be deeply repentant. Instead the Bush Administration gave the world a new justification, or rather several new justifications, for this war. Do you think the Islamic military dictatorship of Pakistan truly can tolerate a war that seeks to impose a Western-oriented democracy on Iraq?
Pakistan had to assume that the United States could in the future lie about Pakistan and then bomb it back to the Stone Age. It therefore needed to target American cities with its nuclear weapons in order to be safe from attack. The invasion of Iraq turned Russia and China against us. Russia and China are therefore happy to sell missiles to Pakistan or to help Pakistan to develop its own ICBM’s. Three years later, Pakistan likely has a number of nuclear weapons mounted on ICBM’s targeting American cities on the East and West coasts. Pakistan is indeed again aiding its Taliban allies while harboring and protecting Osama bin Laden and Sheikh Omar.
Musharraf is a general who seized power in a military coup. He presents an avuncular image on television but this is just a pose. Musharraf is one of the most talented individuals among the 150 million people of Pakistan and is quite capable of sustaining such a pose. The true Musharraf is a Muslim who, like other fundamentalist Muslims, believes he would be rewarded in heaven if he dies for Islam.
Musharraf’s book is a political statement not a confession of the soul. It should be clear to anyone who is neither hopelessly naïve nor incredibly stupid that nuclear scientist Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan was working under the authority of the Pakistani government when Pakistan, North Korea, Iran and Libya were cooperating on developing nuclear weapons. Libya was later dropped from the project as a result of either political unreliability or technical incompetence. Libya was dropped at considerable risk to the project. The real reason Libya was dropped may be that there is a mutual defense pact between these co-operating nations, and Libya was not considered worthy to receive this level of defense.
If America or Israel attacks Iran’s nuclear sites, Pakistan may respond by bombing Israel and American cities. Iran too may have bombs given to them by Russia or China from the stockpiles that lay around the former Soviet Union, or they may have acquired these bombs from rogue Soviet KGB agents during the 1990’s. Iran already has announced it has missiles capable of carrying such bombs which have the range to attack Israel and our troops in Iraq.
Russia and China are Capitalist-Leninist states with a free-market economy and an authoritarian government. They oppose the spread of democracy. We are in an East-West conflict over territory, not a war between the forces of order and the forces of disorder, as the Israel-centric columnist Thomas L. Friedman proposes.
Vladimir Putin, who rose up through the KGB, desires to re-acquire many of the lands of the former Soviet Union – such as Ukraine and Georgia. China views Taiwan, which was formed about the same time as Israel, as a symbol of colonialism and considers the re-acquisition of Taiwan fundamental to its national identity. Russia and China may use the opportunity of a Pakistani nuclear bombing of America and an Iranian bombing of Israel and our troops in Iraq to make their own territorial acquisitions. An attack on Iran can escalate unpredictably.
Mr. Musharaf will now slowly begin to show open support of the Taliban. With nuclear Pakistan as a safe haven, the Taliban will slowly wear down the American and NATO forces arrayed against it. There is no way we can prevent the Taliban from re-taking Afghanistan, nor is it a vital interest of America to prevent this success. Our only interest is to prevent the Taliban from again allowing terrorist bases to operate on their territory. Pakistan is likely to be willing to agree to this if we negotiate rather than continue to fight.
There now should not be any question that Israel-centric Jewish organizations are promoting a war with Iran. In a full-page advertisement in the New York Times on Wednesday, September 20, the American Jewish Committee stated “Can anyone within the range of Iran’s missiles feel safe? Suppose Iran gives nuclear devices to terrorists. Could anyone anywhere feel safe?” These arguments are obviously laying the groundwork for an American attack.
Iran directly threatens only Israel, not America, unless it is attacked first. Pakistan, an impoverished Sunni state, is far more likely to make a deal with Al-Qaeda terrorists than wealthy Shiite Iran. North Korea is more likely than either to make a deal with anyone with money. And Russia and China could slip weapons to terrorists for tactical reasons.
So it should be clear that the American Jewish Committee is supporting the desires of Israel, not the needs of America. We Americanized Jews cannot be silent on this issue when America’s survival may truly be at stake. We must confront these Israel-centric Jews and convince them to put the interests of America ahead of the interests of Israel. My wife’s father fought against Italy in World War II. We Jews fortunately do not have to go that far. But we must be just as patriotic in wartime.
This is a world where the East is arrayed against the West because the West insists on taking lands that the East believes are theirs.
Muslims insist that we stay on our part of the world. They've kicked out everyone who has ever tried to conquer Afghanistan, and consider Israel to be part of their world as well. The Muslims just want their part of the world, not our part of the world. They really have no ambitions to re-conquer Spain, except for their Timothy McVeighs.
Israel-centric Jewish groups are betraying American interests. We are at war with Islam because we have intruded into their sphere of influence. Islam will keep fighting to kick us out. Israel still has a small chance of survival if it quickly accepts Saudi Arabia's peace plan and withdraws to pre-1967 boundaries with justice provided to the Palestinian refugees. The West must admit that the creation of Israel was a mistake. But it was the West that made this mistake, not the Holocaust refugees who went where they were put. America is now paying a high price for refusing to accept Jewish refugees from Germany and the rest of Europe in the 1930’s and 1940’s.
The Saudi offer will likely remain on the table for only a very short while. After that, Jewish Israelis will either have to depart their country or face a nuclear war. Israel, which is only 8000 square miles, can easily be destroyed by 10-20 nuclear bombs, the number the Iranians may have. The Pakistanis likely have more. The only question is how much of the rest of the world will be destroyed along with Israel, which may choose to fight. Remember that Pakistan is a Sunni fundamentalist Muslim nation. Our threat to bomb Pakistan has turned Israel into Pakistan's enemy. Pakistan knows that Israel is at the center of our policy in the Middle East. You cannot use arguments that work domestically, because of political pressure, to convince foreign governments to deny reality.
By Arthur Volbert
The most serious post-9/11 blunder was made immediately following the attack. It was solely the blunder of the Bush Administration. Jewish groups and Israel were in no way involved. But this blunder affects Jewish groups and Israel tremendously.
What was the Bush Administration thinking when it threatened to bomb Pakistan back to the Stone Age if it did not start killing its Taliban allies? Pakistan is a nuclear power, and is developing into a full-fledged nuclear power. Pervez Musharraf made a tactical decision when Richard Armitage threatened to bomb Pakistan if it did not support us. Whether or not Armitage used the words “back to the Stone Age”, it is clear he conveyed that meaning when translated into Urdu. Back in 2001 Pakistan did not have enough bombs or sufficient missile delivery systems to challenge the United States. So Musharraf made the logical decision to support us immediately and enthusiastically while building up his nuclear deterrent as quickly as possible. His tactical alliance with us enabled him to build this deterrent with virtually no interference from America.
When the United States invaded Iraq with the explanation that Iraq was developing weapons of mass destruction, and later this was found to be false, there was a question in America whether this was a result of faulty intelligence or outright lying. In Pakistan there can be no question that this was an outright lie. If it were faulty intelligence the Bush Administration would be deeply repentant. Instead the Bush Administration gave the world a new justification, or rather several new justifications, for this war. Do you think the Islamic military dictatorship of Pakistan truly can tolerate a war that seeks to impose a Western-oriented democracy on Iraq?
Pakistan had to assume that the United States could in the future lie about Pakistan and then bomb it back to the Stone Age. It therefore needed to target American cities with its nuclear weapons in order to be safe from attack. The invasion of Iraq turned Russia and China against us. Russia and China are therefore happy to sell missiles to Pakistan or to help Pakistan to develop its own ICBM’s. Three years later, Pakistan likely has a number of nuclear weapons mounted on ICBM’s targeting American cities on the East and West coasts. Pakistan is indeed again aiding its Taliban allies while harboring and protecting Osama bin Laden and Sheikh Omar.
Musharraf is a general who seized power in a military coup. He presents an avuncular image on television but this is just a pose. Musharraf is one of the most talented individuals among the 150 million people of Pakistan and is quite capable of sustaining such a pose. The true Musharraf is a Muslim who, like other fundamentalist Muslims, believes he would be rewarded in heaven if he dies for Islam.
Musharraf’s book is a political statement not a confession of the soul. It should be clear to anyone who is neither hopelessly naïve nor incredibly stupid that nuclear scientist Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan was working under the authority of the Pakistani government when Pakistan, North Korea, Iran and Libya were cooperating on developing nuclear weapons. Libya was later dropped from the project as a result of either political unreliability or technical incompetence. Libya was dropped at considerable risk to the project. The real reason Libya was dropped may be that there is a mutual defense pact between these co-operating nations, and Libya was not considered worthy to receive this level of defense.
If America or Israel attacks Iran’s nuclear sites, Pakistan may respond by bombing Israel and American cities. Iran too may have bombs given to them by Russia or China from the stockpiles that lay around the former Soviet Union, or they may have acquired these bombs from rogue Soviet KGB agents during the 1990’s. Iran already has announced it has missiles capable of carrying such bombs which have the range to attack Israel and our troops in Iraq.
Russia and China are Capitalist-Leninist states with a free-market economy and an authoritarian government. They oppose the spread of democracy. We are in an East-West conflict over territory, not a war between the forces of order and the forces of disorder, as the Israel-centric columnist Thomas L. Friedman proposes.
Vladimir Putin, who rose up through the KGB, desires to re-acquire many of the lands of the former Soviet Union – such as Ukraine and Georgia. China views Taiwan, which was formed about the same time as Israel, as a symbol of colonialism and considers the re-acquisition of Taiwan fundamental to its national identity. Russia and China may use the opportunity of a Pakistani nuclear bombing of America and an Iranian bombing of Israel and our troops in Iraq to make their own territorial acquisitions. An attack on Iran can escalate unpredictably.
Mr. Musharaf will now slowly begin to show open support of the Taliban. With nuclear Pakistan as a safe haven, the Taliban will slowly wear down the American and NATO forces arrayed against it. There is no way we can prevent the Taliban from re-taking Afghanistan, nor is it a vital interest of America to prevent this success. Our only interest is to prevent the Taliban from again allowing terrorist bases to operate on their territory. Pakistan is likely to be willing to agree to this if we negotiate rather than continue to fight.
There now should not be any question that Israel-centric Jewish organizations are promoting a war with Iran. In a full-page advertisement in the New York Times on Wednesday, September 20, the American Jewish Committee stated “Can anyone within the range of Iran’s missiles feel safe? Suppose Iran gives nuclear devices to terrorists. Could anyone anywhere feel safe?” These arguments are obviously laying the groundwork for an American attack.
Iran directly threatens only Israel, not America, unless it is attacked first. Pakistan, an impoverished Sunni state, is far more likely to make a deal with Al-Qaeda terrorists than wealthy Shiite Iran. North Korea is more likely than either to make a deal with anyone with money. And Russia and China could slip weapons to terrorists for tactical reasons.
So it should be clear that the American Jewish Committee is supporting the desires of Israel, not the needs of America. We Americanized Jews cannot be silent on this issue when America’s survival may truly be at stake. We must confront these Israel-centric Jews and convince them to put the interests of America ahead of the interests of Israel. My wife’s father fought against Italy in World War II. We Jews fortunately do not have to go that far. But we must be just as patriotic in wartime.
This is a world where the East is arrayed against the West because the West insists on taking lands that the East believes are theirs.
Muslims insist that we stay on our part of the world. They've kicked out everyone who has ever tried to conquer Afghanistan, and consider Israel to be part of their world as well. The Muslims just want their part of the world, not our part of the world. They really have no ambitions to re-conquer Spain, except for their Timothy McVeighs.
Israel-centric Jewish groups are betraying American interests. We are at war with Islam because we have intruded into their sphere of influence. Islam will keep fighting to kick us out. Israel still has a small chance of survival if it quickly accepts Saudi Arabia's peace plan and withdraws to pre-1967 boundaries with justice provided to the Palestinian refugees. The West must admit that the creation of Israel was a mistake. But it was the West that made this mistake, not the Holocaust refugees who went where they were put. America is now paying a high price for refusing to accept Jewish refugees from Germany and the rest of Europe in the 1930’s and 1940’s.
The Saudi offer will likely remain on the table for only a very short while. After that, Jewish Israelis will either have to depart their country or face a nuclear war. Israel, which is only 8000 square miles, can easily be destroyed by 10-20 nuclear bombs, the number the Iranians may have. The Pakistanis likely have more. The only question is how much of the rest of the world will be destroyed along with Israel, which may choose to fight. Remember that Pakistan is a Sunni fundamentalist Muslim nation. Our threat to bomb Pakistan has turned Israel into Pakistan's enemy. Pakistan knows that Israel is at the center of our policy in the Middle East. You cannot use arguments that work domestically, because of political pressure, to convince foreign governments to deny reality.
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yup 1 out of 7 tests failed. does that make it useless?? ur missiles will soon be useless against us. sorry to say.
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