Possible Powerplants of Super MKI: AL-31F M1 or 117?

[IND151]

India is planning to upgrade a significant portion of its MKI fleets to Super 30 standrad.
The upgrade will see new, better equipments, ASEA radar and as many suggest, new, more powerful engines (as AESA radar require more power).

117 engine intended for powering prototype of Pak Fa, has thrust of 33,000 lbf which is 14,969 KG, but probably is in early production and not in service.

When Prasun K Sengupta said that Super MKIs will have 15 ton engines, he was reffering to these beasts.

AL-31F M1 offers thrust of 30, 300 lbf whcih is 13,608 KG and it is already in production.

I think one of these engine be used on Super MKI as ASEA radars, which will fitted on Super MKIs will demand more power.

 

[IND151]

@Capt.Popeye @sancho @XiNiX

 

[kaykay]

I have heard that It would be uprated version of current engines so IMO AL-31F M1 seems the candidate for me.

 

[The Great One]

I have heard that It would be uprated version of current engines so IMO AL-31F M1 seems the candidate for me.

UMPO starts the delivery of 920 AL-31FP engines to India - News - Russian Aviation - RUAVIATION.COM

 

[IND151]

UMPO starts the delivery of 920 AL-31FP engines to India - News - Russian Aviation - RUAVIATION.COM

The AL 31 FP has not enough power for ASEA, a new or uprated engine with greater thrust is needed.

 

[The Great One]

The AL 31 FP has not enough power for ASEA, a new or uprated engine with greater thrust is needed.

What is needed/deemed to needed by INTERNET warriors; unfortunately doesn't match IAF's actions.
I am sad, I was imagining a 160Kn engine and a 35 Kw AESA with 2500 T/R modules.

 

[nomi007]

use American base
General Electric F110

 

[kaykay]

UMPO starts the delivery of 920 AL-31FP engines to India - News - Russian Aviation - RUAVIATION.COM

Uprating existing engines is no big issue and according to Prasun Sen Gupta, It will be.

TRISHUL: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

 

[IND151]

Uprating existing engines is no big issue and according to Prasun Sen Gupta, It will be.

TRISHUL: Super Su-30MKI: From Air Dominance To Air Supremacy

@sancho wont agree with you.

 

[kaykay]

@sancho wont agree with you.

Well even I have heard different things from different people but uprating current engines seems a bit more logical to me. Anyway I would like to read Sancho's POV.

 

[IND151]

Well even I have heard different things from different people but uprating current engines seems a bit more logical to me. Anyway I would like to read Sancho's POV.

That would be challanging, lets see what way IAF chooses.

 

[Mughal-Prince]

This picture seems nice but Super Sukhoi looks same as other 30s

 

[kaykay]

This picture seems nice but Super Sukhoi looks same as other 30s

Look wise Super sukhoi will hardly be any different from current ones. improvements will be in form of AESA radar, avionics, engines, RCS etc( ram coating).

 

[Mughal-Prince]

Look wise Super sukhoi will hardly be any different from current ones. improvements will be in form of AESA radar, avionics, engines, RCS etc( ram coating).

Yes you are right but this design looks good

 

[IND151]

Look wise Super sukhoi will hardly be any different from current ones. improvements will be in form of AESA radar, avionics, engines, RCS etc( ram coating).

Yep

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