Population of over-60-yr-olds reaches 212 million

[Bussard Ramjet]

Population of over-60-yr-olds reaches 212 million

The number of people aged 60 and over reached 212 million at the end of 2014, whichmade up 15.5 percent of the total population, according to Wang Yong, director of theChina National Committee on Aging.

The aging population in China has five characteristics: aging population undergoes fastand large-scale growth; fast growth of disabled elders and heavy burden of the society;aging population problem in rural region becomes prominent; increase of empty nestfamily accelerates and more elderly live alone; people age before getting rich.

The article is edited and translated from《我国老年人口已达2.12亿 未富先老矛盾凸显》,source: People's Daily Online


Population of over-60-yr-olds reaches 212 million - People's Daily Online

 

[p4kistan]

China is a hopeless country. We are the biggest democracy and have the most young people. We are the only hope in Asia!
@Bussard Ramjet Great thread! Let those Chinese know their pathetic future.

You're also the biggest pricks in Asia so are no hope for anyone. LOL

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

I just read a report from Japan that says age group of over 65 is reaching 26% of Japanese population...hopefully we can closely study Japan‘s ageing problem and find some answers,but right now I think the only option for Japan is to open borders to mass immigration.Printing money is only a short term solution and can only solve debt problems but not labor shortages,Immigration is the only way to keep economy afloat in the long run. I just hope china’s future wont come to this

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

I just read a report from Japan that says age group of over 65 is reaching 26% of Japanese population...hopefully we can closely study Japan‘s ageing problem and find some answers,but right now I think the only option for Japan is to open borders to mass immigration.Printing money is only a short term solution and can only solve debt problems but not labor shortages,Immigration is the only way to keep economy afloat in the long run. I just hope china’s future wont come to this

The way it is going, China has a bigger problem than Japan coming in the next 20 years.
Also, due to the scale of China, no immigration will be able to solve that problem.

People have been warning China now for a long time, and it has come to this. I think the vested interests in National Family Planning Departments don't want their jobs to be abolished.

 

[greenwood]

It is a big challenge

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

It is a big challenge

But do you first realize the challenge? The family planning department guys are fooling around the entire nation to save their jobs.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

The way it is going, China has a bigger problem than Japan coming in the next 20 years.
Also, due to the scale of China, no immigration will be able to solve that problem.

People have been warning China now for a long time, and it has come to this. I think the vested interests in National Family Planning Departments don't want their jobs to be abolished.

vested interests？there’s no such thing.The law is still there but enforcement has been loosen up，you won‘t find it on the media but I can tell you in a lot of places they mostly turn a blind eye to people having more than 1 children，things have changed

The population control is being closely monitored from the very top policy makers，I read somewhere they set the birth rate of 1.5 as the “red line” .It dropped below before but quickly bounced back，that might give you some ideas that CPC has a lot of tricks up its sleeves

 

[greenwood]

But do you first realize the challenge? The family planning department guys are fooling around the entire nation to save their jobs.

What's family planning department guys? I didn't hear about this term in English before. Can you translate it into my language?

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

vested interests？there’s no such thing.The law is still there but enforcement has been loosen up，you won‘t find it on the media but I can tell you in a lot of places they mostly turn a blind eye to people having more than 1 children，things have changed

The population control is being closely monitored from the very top policy makers，I read somewhere they set the birth rate of 1.5 as the “red line” .It dropped below before but quickly bounced back，that might give you some ideas that CPC has a lot of tricks up its sleeves

I have no doubt that CPC can handle the situation right now, but it is not taking the right steps. The fertility rate of China is too low, and policy steps for remedy have been limited.

They are doing the same mistake Lee Kuan Yew did. Educated people make less babies, that's that. The more educated people get, the natural fertility rate will continue to come down. Also, the problem is bigger in China, since it is culturally acceptable to have one kid in China.

 

[Jesus Christ 2015]

China will be in crisis if there is no change

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

I have no doubt that CPC can handle the situation right now, but it is not taking the right steps. The fertility rate of China is too low, and policy steps for remedy have been limited.

They are doing the same mistake Lee Kuan Yew did. Educated people make less babies, that's that. The more educated people get, the natural fertility rate will continue to come down. Also, the problem is bigger in China, since it is culturally acceptable to have one kid in China.

Are you saying having more than 1 children is somehow culturally unacceptable in China？I don‘t see such thing. And a lot of ppl around me are having or planing to have 2 kids，I would rate that number at 30%

Speeking of “culturally acceptable”，stay unmarried is becoming a lot more acceptable in Japan，gogle “食草系男子”，while in China，yound people still feel strongly that marrying and having children are a moral duty to parents.

another important thing to compare China with Japan is life expectancy，if both retire at 65，a japanese man who dies at 85 would have twice as much time to collect pensions then a chinese man who dies at 75，sounds a bit cold but having a long life expectancy greatly increases the burden on social care system，why do you think india does not have such problems？Indian men retire at 60 and life expectancy for men in India is 61. LOL!! number could be different now tho

and education is not necessarily the reason behind low birth rate，LKY could be wrong Why educated women are having more babies - The Washington Post

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Are you saying having more than 1 children is somehow culturally unacceptable in China？I don‘t see such thing. And a lot of ppl around me are having or planing to have 2 kids，I would rate that number at 30%

Speeking of “culturally acceptable”，stay unmarried is becoming a lot more acceptable in Japan，gogle “食草系男子”，while in China，yound people still feel strongly that marrying and having children are a moral duty to parents.

another important thing to compare China with Japan is life expectancy，if both retire at 65，a japanese man who dies at 85 would have twice as much time to collect pensions then a chinese man who dies at 75，sounds a bit cold but having a long life expectancy greatly increases the burden on social care system，why do you think india does not have such problems？Indian men retire at 60 and life expectancy for men in India is 61. LOL!! number could be different now tho

and education is not necessarily the reason behind low birth rate，LKY could be wrong Why educated women are having more babies - The Washington Post

I am saying that 1 child is culturally acceptable and normal in China. In other developing countries, for lower strata of society, 1 child is generally considered way too less.

Also, as for life expectancy, China's life expectancy will soon rise to at least 80.

Finally, yes it is not only education, but also the cost of raising a kid, yet, education is surely a factor.

You must also take lessons from Japan, and Singapore. No country with a serious demographic problem has been able to solve it. Singapore tried giving all kinds of incentives without breaking their backs.

China will have lesser resources to spare (per capita) compared to Singapore and Japan, and Immigration, due to the scale of China, will never be a solution.

 

[Aepsilons]

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[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

I think that something that is missing from your assessment of old people is their experience and accumulated wealth.

Obviously old people are not as physically sound as young people but people past 60 are far from useless. Top cooks, doctors, professionals etc - they can still continue their line of work well into their 70s and even 80s.

Its the old people who have squandered their life's years away with nary a dollar to their name or failed to apply themselves to any line of work that will be a burden to society.

Look at old man Manmohan Singh, he became prime minister of India.

Old people are not the only 'burden', there are invalids (physically and mentally), lazy bastards, leeches and wastrel fcukers. I have read of people here in Australia who have children as their occupation and collect ridiculously large payouts fortnightly from the government. They are not old or invalid in any way.

The population of India might be younger than China's but the composition of the characters that burden society are probably made up of youngsters fcuking around and undisciplined bandwagons of perpetrators of caste nonsense.

@Bussard Ramjet

 

[Zsari]

Looking at the Chinese age pyramid, the base is not ever shrinking, so it just need to weather through the 20 years of the pre-one-child policy wave, and its age pyramid will look very healthy.