POF PK-16 Heavy Machine Gun

[eagleeye]

Life barrel of 3500 rounds sounds not to much for a machine gun or am i wrong.

 

[Pandora]

DsHKM weighs 34 kg:
http://modernfirearms.net/machine/rus/dshk-dshkm-e.html

This one quoted above includes gun+stand. Orignal gun is above 100kg when complete whereas one used by pakistan is almost 92kg. PK-16 includes gun+stand which is 31 kg which has been explained by POF officials in detail durring introduction of new version.

Dhsk (Gun+Stand) = 157kg
PK 16 (Current Version) =92kg
PK 16 (New Version) = 31kg

34 kg

34 is just weight of Gun but including stand it is almost 157kg. HK 16 is 31kg for entire unit.

 

[jamal18]

34 kg

Not a revolutionary weight loss then.

 

[hussain0216]

Shooting this gun without the stand is near useless and very difficult

Combined they weigh alot and make the gun a stationery fixed item



The new weapon is superb because the changes and developments have meant that TOTAL WEIGHT INCLUDING STAND is around 30kg

Thus it can be carried by 1 to 2 men including the stand and is now mobile and can be moved around whilst still being a brutal weapon

Not a revolutionary weight loss then.

Not if your stupid

 

[Dean Winchester]

This one quoted above includes gun+stand. Orignal gun is above 100kg when complete whereas one used by pakistan is almost 92kg. PK-16 includes gun+stand which is 31 kg which has been explained by POF officials in detail durring introduction of new version.

Dhsk (Gun+Stand) = 157kg
PK 16 (Current Version) =92kg
PK 16 (New Version) = 31kg



34 is just weight of Gun but including stand it is almost 157kg. HK 16 is 31kg for entire unit.

PK-16 is super similar to W85/QCJ88.
as it has Same specs.

 

[jamal18]

Not if your stupid

I was responding to the last post, before the fresh information.

Moron, here's one I posted earlier.

I really want to check the figures. From 92 kg to 32 kg? If true it is a fantastic improvement.

With the universal use of body amour, the .50 caliber round is more important than ever. What has kept it from being more widely used is the weight of its weapon.

This could be a game changer.

 

[YeBeWarned]

seen it in Ideas 2016

 

[Tipu7]

@waz @HRK @Irfan Baloch

Can you people have look at this professional troll @Dean Winchester ?

 

[Dean Winchester]

@waz @HRK @Irfan Baloch

Can you people have look at this professional troll @Dean Winchester ?

So you failed to refute my points logically?

 

[war&peace]

31kg as compared to 92kg

Wow this is huge change in the weight and thus it makes a weapon of totally different kind in the sense now a single soldier can carry it or two soldiers can carry it for a longer distances, assemble it and fire on enemy while 92 kg means it has to be essentially mounted on some vehicle or towed.
This also indicates major advancements at POF have taken place and soon we will see its effects on other weapons too.

 

[jamal18]

Wow this is huge change in the weight and thus it makes a weapon of totally different kind in the sense now a single soldier can carry it or two soldiers can carry it for a longer distances, assemble it and fire on enemy while 92 kg means it has to be essentially mounted on some vehicle or towed.
This also indicates major advancements at POF have taken place and soon we will see its effects on other weapons too.

My view exactly. It no longer has to be vehicle mounted. It is now a squad weapon and in the reach of dismounted infantry. A lot more .50 calibre flying around. Better equipped troops with body armour and apc are now more vulnerable. A game changer.

 

[Gryphon]

@Path-Finder @django @Starlord @Ulla @Signalian @HRK

I have noticed increased usage of the W85 HMG in Pakistan for last few years.

A Pakistani policewoman fires a heavy machine gun during a special elite police training course at a police training centre in Nowshera, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa on February 11, 2015. - AFP



8 Oct 2016

MoDP reported in its last yearbook (FY 2015-16) that POF was awarded a contract to manufacture PK-16 HMGs for Al-Khalid tanks. Previously, the tanks used imported QJC 88's.

In the recent POF documentary,

a POF worker can be seen test firing a PK-16 (infantry version mounted on a tripod in vertical configuration for AA role), also displayed at IDEAS 2016.

I guess Type 54 replacement is finalized.



Type 88 (QJC 88) Tank Heavy Machine Gun

12.7mm QJC-88 tank machine gun.


Caliber: 12.7×108
Weight: 18.5 kg/41 lbs (gun body)
Overall length: 1,500 mm / 59 inches
Barrel length: n/a
Cyclic rate of fire: 540 – 600 rpm
Feed and capacity: Belt, 50 rounds

The QJC 88 tank machine gun is a gas operated, air cooled, belt-fed, automatic only weapon. Its design is loosely based on the Soviet DShKM heavy machine gun of 1946, although there are many differences in various subsystems.

The QJC 88 uses a long-stroke gas piston, located below the barrel. The piston is rigidly attached to the bolt carrier, which carries a compact breech block (bolt). The locking system can be described as an “inverted” Degtyarov / Kjellman flap lock; it uses two pivoting flaps, one at either side of the bolt, to engage cuts in the receiver walls. The key difference between the QJC 88 and DShKM is that, in the QJC 88, the flaps are pivoted at the rear and have special locking projections that lock into the receiver walls.

The feed is also broadly based on that of the DShKM. The feed module is a detachable unit attached to the top of the receiver. It is operated by a swinging arm that projects down at the right side of the feed. The fork-shaped bottom end of the arm engages a reciprocating charging handle, which is attached to the bolt carrier. Feed is from the left side.

The gun fires from an open bolt, in automatic mode only. The firing pin is operated by a projection on the bolt carrier; the same projection forces the locking lugs outwards so the gun cannot fire unless the bolt is fully locked. A manual trigger is fitted to the rear of the receiver and an electrical solenoid trigger is provided as a part of the tank mounting.

So far the gun has been observed on a roof-top tank mount, with an electrical trigger and a collimating sight installed on the gun cradle.

Modifications
W-85: the original version of the same machine gun, available in either tank or infantry versions. The latter was installed on a universal tripod, and the gun was fitted with dual spade grips and a tubular shoulder stock.

12.7mm W85 heavy machine gun.

http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=2685

 

[Path-Finder]

@Path-Finder @django @Starlord @Ulla @Signalian @HRK

I have noticed increased usage of the W85 HMG in Pakistan for last few years.

A Pakistani policewoman fires a heavy machine gun during a special elite police training course at a police training centre in Nowshera, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa on February 11, 2015. - AFP



8 Oct 2016

MoDP reported in its last yearbook (FY 2015-16) that POF was awarded a contract to manufacture PK-16 HMGs for Al-Khalid tanks. Previously, the tanks used imported QJC 88's.

In the recent POF documentary,

a POF worker can be seen test firing a PK-16 (infantry version mounted on a tripod in vertical configuration for AA role), also displayed at IDEAS 2016.

I guess Type 54 replacement is finalized.



Type 88 (QJC 88) Tank Heavy Machine Gun

12.7mm QJC-88 tank machine gun.


Caliber: 12.7×108
Weight: 18.5 kg/41 lbs (gun body)
Overall length: 1,500 mm / 59 inches
Barrel length: n/a
Cyclic rate of fire: 540 – 600 rpm
Feed and capacity: Belt, 50 rounds

The QJC 88 tank machine gun is a gas operated, air cooled, belt-fed, automatic only weapon. Its design is loosely based on the Soviet DShKM heavy machine gun of 1946, although there are many differences in various subsystems.

The QJC 88 uses a long-stroke gas piston, located below the barrel. The piston is rigidly attached to the bolt carrier, which carries a compact breech block (bolt). The locking system can be described as an “inverted” Degtyarov / Kjellman flap lock; it uses two pivoting flaps, one at either side of the bolt, to engage cuts in the receiver walls. The key difference between the QJC 88 and DShKM is that, in the QJC 88, the flaps are pivoted at the rear and have special locking projections that lock into the receiver walls.

The feed is also broadly based on that of the DShKM. The feed module is a detachable unit attached to the top of the receiver. It is operated by a swinging arm that projects down at the right side of the feed. The fork-shaped bottom end of the arm engages a reciprocating charging handle, which is attached to the bolt carrier. Feed is from the left side.

The gun fires from an open bolt, in automatic mode only. The firing pin is operated by a projection on the bolt carrier; the same projection forces the locking lugs outwards so the gun cannot fire unless the bolt is fully locked. A manual trigger is fitted to the rear of the receiver and an electrical solenoid trigger is provided as a part of the tank mounting.

So far the gun has been observed on a roof-top tank mount, with an electrical trigger and a collimating sight installed on the gun cradle.

Modifications
W-85: the original version of the same machine gun, available in either tank or infantry versions. The latter was installed on a universal tripod, and the gun was fitted with dual spade grips and a tubular shoulder stock.

12.7mm W85 heavy machine gun.

http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=2685

The DShK is said to be like firing 3 or 4 Browning M2 together. It's about time that DShK was laid to rest and a better and lighter option was chosen. I would still say M2 is a better option because it has so much more modularity to offer in comparison to these other two.

 

[YeBeWarned]

@Path-Finder @django @Starlord @Ulla @Signalian @HRK

I have noticed increased usage of the W85 HMG in Pakistan for last few years.

A Pakistani policewoman fires a heavy machine gun during a special elite police training course at a police training centre in Nowshera, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa on February 11, 2015. - AFP



8 Oct 2016

MoDP reported in its last yearbook (FY 2015-16) that POF was awarded a contract to manufacture PK-16 HMGs for Al-Khalid tanks. Previously, the tanks used imported QJC 88's.

In the recent POF documentary,

a POF worker can be seen test firing a PK-16 (infantry version mounted on a tripod in vertical configuration for AA role), also displayed at IDEAS 2016.

I guess Type 54 replacement is finalized.



Type 88 (QJC 88) Tank Heavy Machine Gun

12.7mm QJC-88 tank machine gun.


Caliber: 12.7×108
Weight: 18.5 kg/41 lbs (gun body)
Overall length: 1,500 mm / 59 inches
Barrel length: n/a
Cyclic rate of fire: 540 – 600 rpm
Feed and capacity: Belt, 50 rounds

The QJC 88 tank machine gun is a gas operated, air cooled, belt-fed, automatic only weapon. Its design is loosely based on the Soviet DShKM heavy machine gun of 1946, although there are many differences in various subsystems.

The QJC 88 uses a long-stroke gas piston, located below the barrel. The piston is rigidly attached to the bolt carrier, which carries a compact breech block (bolt). The locking system can be described as an “inverted” Degtyarov / Kjellman flap lock; it uses two pivoting flaps, one at either side of the bolt, to engage cuts in the receiver walls. The key difference between the QJC 88 and DShKM is that, in the QJC 88, the flaps are pivoted at the rear and have special locking projections that lock into the receiver walls.

The feed is also broadly based on that of the DShKM. The feed module is a detachable unit attached to the top of the receiver. It is operated by a swinging arm that projects down at the right side of the feed. The fork-shaped bottom end of the arm engages a reciprocating charging handle, which is attached to the bolt carrier. Feed is from the left side.

The gun fires from an open bolt, in automatic mode only. The firing pin is operated by a projection on the bolt carrier; the same projection forces the locking lugs outwards so the gun cannot fire unless the bolt is fully locked. A manual trigger is fitted to the rear of the receiver and an electrical solenoid trigger is provided as a part of the tank mounting.

So far the gun has been observed on a roof-top tank mount, with an electrical trigger and a collimating sight installed on the gun cradle.

Modifications
W-85: the original version of the same machine gun, available in either tank or infantry versions. The latter was installed on a universal tripod, and the gun was fitted with dual spade grips and a tubular shoulder stock.

12.7mm W85 heavy machine gun.

http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=2685

Saw an improved version at Ideas 2016, talked to the soldier standing right there, he said its very effective in FATA against Taliban ..