PMLN & The Amritsari Vote

[Indus Priest King]

This isn't a hidden fact, but I'm surprised why nobody mentions it.

PMLN's hardcore vote base are mainly East Punjabi immigrants (Amritsaris) who immigrated to Punjab in 1947. They view PMLN no differently than how some Urdu speakers in Karachi view MQM...of course PMLN was not around in 1947, and it would be foolish to assume that PMLN is a continuation of the original Muslim League.

Rather, PMLN has disturbing similarities with the former Punjab Unionist Party which disappeared in 1947...they too were heavily dominated by East Punjabis. Just for the record, the Unionist Party opposed Pakistan's independence and represented to views of the landlords and wealthy elite of Punjab - sound familiar?

I'm not saying all Amritsaris vote for PMLN, and I'm not saying all Urdu speakers vote for MQM, but what I'm noticing how the hardcore PMLN supporters narrative is slowly beginning to change its tune from a nationalist view (which was fake from day 1) to a "Punjabi" view.

Firstly, East Punjabis don't represent the majority of Punjab's population.
Secondly, PMLN's entire leadership actually consist of Kashmiri immigrants to East Punjab. Ethnically Nawaz Sharif's entire family are all Kashmiris, who settled in East Punjab at the turn of the 19th century due to famine in the Kashmir Valley. Hilariously, most Kashmiris from the valley disown them.

So PMLN is neither really a Punjabi party, nor are they actually representative of the REAL Punjabis (West Punjab).

Them using the "Punjab card" should be viewed with high suspicion and be called out. Punjabis shouldn't be fooled by them.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Secondly, PMLN's entire leadership actually consist of Kashmiri immigrants to East Punjab. Ethnically Nawaz Sharif's entire family are all Kashmiris, who settled in East Punjab at the turn of the 19th century due to famine in the Kashmir Valley. Hilariously, most Kashmiris from the valley disown them.

Many Kashmiris I've met are actually proud of Nawaz Sharif and many other Kashmiris that are a part of the Government. PMLN is the most popular party in Azad Kashmir.

 

[Indus Priest King]

Many Kashmiris I've met are actually proud of Nawaz Sharif.

Which Kashmiris? From what locality/region?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Which Kashmiris? From what locality/region?

Butts

 

[Indus Priest King]

Butts

Punjabi Butts or Valley Bhats?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Punjabi Butts or Valley Bhats?

Punjabi.

 

[KAMDEV]

So pmln is in fight in punjab.

 

[Kabira]

Your history is upside down. For one unionists were domiated by muslims from west punjab.

I already have mentioned that Muslim League is full of settlers and migrants.Even Imran Khan ancestors came from east punjab because vast majority of punjabi pathans lived in east punjab and byond. Natives of western punjab have never been united under language card ever. Islam/Pakistan? yes.

Its all thanks to British demographic engineering, etc when they brought scores of hindus and sikhs along with muslims from east punjab and beyond to settle in new canal colonies. My good guess is post 47 and colonial settler from India in punjab make up 40% of population. In districts where canal colonies didn't exist or where muslims already made 80-90% of population, these are still mostly natives of western punjab.

As to why they play punjabi card closer to election? Afghani muhajir play afghan land card when someone ask them to go back. Even though there is no such a thing as afghan land and they will remain political refugees forever even in pakhtun majority regions. Since they are out of their native land, they need to find something to stick in to.

 

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

Many Kashmiris I've met are actually proud of Nawaz Sharif and many other Kashmiris that are a part of the Government. PMLN is the most popular party in Azad Kashmir.

Even Indians are proud of PMLN

This isn't a hidden fact, but I'm surprised why nobody mentions it.

PMLN's hardcore vote base are mainly East Punjabi immigrants (Amritsaris) who immigrated to Punjab in 1947. They view PMLN no differently than how some Urdu speakers in Karachi view MQM...of course PMLN was not around in 1947, and it would be foolish to assume that PMLN is a continuation of the original Muslim League.

Rather, PMLN has disturbing similarities with the former Punjab Unionist Party which disappeared in 1947...they too were heavily dominated by East Punjabis. Just for the record, the Unionist Party opposed Pakistan's independence and represented to views of the landlords and wealthy elite of Punjab - sound familiar?

I'm not saying all Amritsaris vote for PMLN, and I'm not saying all Urdu speakers vote for MQM, but what I'm noticing how the hardcore PMLN supporters narrative is slowly beginning to change its tune from a nationalist view (which was fake from day 1) to a "Punjabi" view.

Firstly, East Punjabis don't represent the majority of Punjab's population.
Secondly, PMLN's entire leadership actually consist of Kashmiri immigrants to East Punjab. Ethnically Nawaz Sharif's entire family are all Kashmiris, who settled in East Punjab at the turn of the 19th century due to famine in the Kashmir Valley. Hilariously, most Kashmiris from the valley disown them.

So PMLN is neither really a Punjabi party, nor are they actually representative of the REAL Punjabis (West Punjab).

Them using the "Punjab card" should be viewed with high suspicion and be called out. Punjabis shouldn't be fooled by them.

Yes they Noonian by religion

 

[Zibago]

PMLN has disturbing similarities with the former Punjab Unionist Party which disappeared in 1947

Agreed on that front from narrative to world view think of pmln as unionist 2.0

Many Kashmiris I've met are actually proud of Nawaz Sharif and many other Kashmiris that are a part of the Government. PMLN is the most popular party in Azad Kashmir.

Not really the only reason pmln is in power in AJK is due to a disunited opposition pmln is not very popular among Kashmiris we dont really appreciate the pro Modi narrative @django

 

[Norwegian]

Many Kashmiris I've met are actually proud of Nawaz Sharif and many other Kashmiris that are a part of the Government. PMLN is the most popular party in Azad Kashmir.

They are proud Khotas

Your history is upside down. For one unionists were domiated by muslims from west punjab.

I already have mentioned that Muslim League is full of settlers and migrants.Even Imran Khan ancestors came from east punjab because vast majority of punjabi pathans lived in east punjab and byond. Natives of western punjab have never been united under language card ever. Islam/Pakistan? yes.

Its all thanks to British demographic engineering, etc when they brought scores of hindus and sikhs along with muslims from east punjab and beyond to settle in new canal colonies. My good guess is post 47 and colonial settler from India in punjab make up 40% of population. In districts where canal colonies didn't exist or where muslims already made 80-90% of population, these are still mostly natives of western punjab.

As to why they play punjabi card closer to election? Afghani muhajir play afghan land card when someone ask them to go back. Even though there is no such a thing as afghan land and they will remain political refugees forever even in pakhtun majority regions. Since they are out of their native land, they need to find something to stick in to.

Welcome. Voting for Nawaz Sharif tomorrow?

 

[django]

Agreed on that front from narrative to world view think of pmln as unionist 2.0

Not really the only reason pmln is in power in AJK is due to a disunited opposition pmln is not very popular among Kashmiris we dont really appreciate the pro Modi narrative @django

They are a spent force, once NS clan is incarcerated then that will be final straw, no question about it.Kudos

 

[Indus Priest King]

The Amritsari dominated districts of Punjab didn't disappoint PMLN. Glad to see the rest of Punjab rejected these Amritsaris.

 

[Max]

It's butts aka Kashmiri gang aka outsiders(migrants).. glad they got kick on their butts..

Raja Yasir Humayon (Rajput) will be next CM according to rumors.

 

[Kabira]

The Amritsari dominated districts of Punjab didn't disappoint PMLN. Glad to see the rest of Punjab rejected these Amritsaris.

I'll break down to you. There are 3 main biradaris in central punjab, rajput, jatt and arains. And their candidates fight each other in election.

N-league lower ranks are dominated by rajputs in central punjab. Rana sanaullah, Ahsan iqbal etc all are from east punjab. Another community which migrated from east punjab in large numbers are arains. They are divided in PTI and N now. I'm pretty sure most arains are now in PTI camp.

Majority of muslim jatts were already living in west punjab in 47. Jatts now are mostly in PTI camp and before that they were in PPP and Q league camp.