PMLN and the Amritsari Vote

[SD 10]

Someone has to say it, so I will.

PMLN's hardcore voter base are mainly East Punjabis (called Amritsari) who immigrated to central Punjab in and around 1947. This is where PMLN gets the majority of its support from. When I say Amritsari, I’m referring to the East Punjab Muslim elites/landlords/British bootlickers who were part of the Punjab Unionist Party at one time.

Today they support and view PMLN no differently than how some Urdu speakers in Karachi viewed MQM in the past- the difference between the two communities couldn’t be any different. Urdu speakers seem to have evolved over the past 75 years and have always been racially profiled as not being “real Pakistanis” despite always defending their identity and referring to themselves as Pakistani only.

PMLN supporters are still impressed by paved roads being called “gifts”. What’s also interesting is how they like to maintain a separate identity from the “other Punjabis”. You’ll notice them intermarrying and trying to keep the wealth and power they’ve amassed within the community.

PMLN today was not around in 1947, and it would be foolish to assume that this Zia ul Haq invented political party is a continuation of the original Muslim League. We all know how Zia’s former predecessor deposed of Fatima Jinnah.

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Rather, PMLN has disturbing similarities with the former Punjab Unionist Party which disappeared in 1947.

They too were heavily dominated by East Punjabi Muslims. Funny enough, they opposed Pakistan's independence and represented to views of the landlords and wealthy elite of Punjab - sound familiar?

I'm not saying all Amritsaris vote for PMLN, and I'm not saying all Urdu speakers vote for MQM, but what I'm noticing is how the hardcore PMLN supporters narrative is slowly beginning to change its tone from a fake nationalist view to a fake "Punjabi" view, which is disingenuous.

1. East Punjabis don't represent the majority of Punjab's population.

2. PMLN's entire leadership actually consist of Kashmiri immigrants to East Punjab. Ethnically Nawaz Sharif's entire family are all Kashmiris, who settled in East Punjab at the turn of the 19th century due to famine in the Kashmir Valley.

Hilariously, most Kashmiris from the valley disown them and the Sharif’s themselves regard Jati Umra as their ancestral home.

If I’m trying further trying to dig a hole for the Pakistan Dalla Movement on social media, I would push this narrative hard. These people have never had Pakistan’s interests at heart…ever.

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dont do racism man..... pmln is no longer popular in central punjab!

 

[Black.Mamba]

Showbaz

https://twitter.com/x/status/1644652915561488384

 

[Neelo]

Like I said. Too much emotion not enough reading.

I'm not being racist just giving my opinion on what I've observed.

 

[El Sidd]

Yes many pdf members are openly racist and xenophobic but almost all of them exclusively support Niazi led PTI.

 

[Skimming]

Another Brain Fart from Punjab Bashing feel goods
I am.pretty sure the OP doesnt even know a thing about Punjabi Politics.

Any ways Its better to ignore such rants instead of Making a discussion out of it.
Muhajir Punjabis integrated into Pakistan despite all the difficulties. And rest is history. Unlike some other communites whose leaders always played love hate card with Pakistan.
OP wants to draw a parallel between the Fat Pig Altaf Party and his manipulation of Karachi people with PMLN politics in Punjab.
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An authoritative poster on Pakistan, @Indus Pakistan says partition immigrants from Punjab aren't muhajirs as they are of same ethnicity as West Punjabi.

 

[R2D2]

Imran Khan can also claim that his mother was from East Punjab and snatch votes from PMLN.

 

[SD 10]

Imran Khan can also claim that his mother was from East Punjab and snatch votes from PMLN.

who gives votes on that man? i am a punjabi never heared a single voter say that they vote for nawaz because he is from east or from punjab? There are other factors, race isn`t a factor here!

 

[Zhukov]

An authoritative poster on Pakistan, @Indus Pakistan says partition immigrants from Punjab aren't muhajirs as they are of same ethnicity as West Punjabi.

Muhajirs passed away 30 40 years ago. Our fathers were born in Pakistan lived and died peacefully here. We are not Muhajir you are right on this point.
Rest is just argument for the sake of argument. I will not waste any energy on this new spin "Immigration of Punjab was not immigration"
Anyways on topic Immigration is politically irrelevant in Punjab. Despite how painfull it was how much our grandfathers lost in lives and properties and many of them were very upset for that. But fortunately it was never politicised against the existing settlers.
PMLN tried to start this Punjabi Pakhtuun non sense and they got their as* handed to them by people within a week. This crap will not sell in punjab. It never did.

who gives votes on that man? i am a punjabi never heared a single voter say that they vote for nawaz because he is from east or from punjab? There are other factors, race isn`t a factor here!

They will try their level best to give a spin to punjab politics so that it looks ethno facist.
Better to ignore them in an argument. No Idea why are they not happy that this part of Pakistan is still safe from Ethnic hatered instead they are irritated for Punjab

 

[Neelo]

Yes many pdf members are openly racist and xenophobic but almost all of them exclusively support Niazi led PTI.

These cute code words mean nothing to me. I’ve stated facts….I just hope this becomes mainstream and we call you out for the traitors you are to this country.

Haul your b**d back to Amritsar and eat a kulcha.

who gives votes on that man? i am a punjabi never heared a single voter say that they vote for nawaz because he is from east or from punjab? There are other factors, race isn`t a factor here!

Who gives votes on that? Are you new around here or something?

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Someone has to say it, so I will.

PMLN's hardcore voter base are mainly East Punjabis (called Amritsari) who immigrated to central Punjab in and around 1947. This is where PMLN gets the majority of its support from. When I say Amritsari, I’m referring to the East Punjab Muslim elites/landlords/British bootlickers who were part of the Punjab Unionist Party at one time.

Today they support and view PMLN no differently than how some Urdu speakers in Karachi viewed MQM in the past- the difference between the two communities couldn’t be any different. Urdu speakers seem to have evolved over the past 75 years and have always been racially profiled as not being “real Pakistanis” despite always defending their identity and referring to themselves as Pakistani only.

PMLN supporters are still impressed by paved roads being called “gifts”. What’s also interesting is how they like to maintain a separate identity from the “other Punjabis”. You’ll notice them intermarrying and trying to keep the wealth and power they’ve amassed within the community.

PMLN today was not around in 1947, and it would be foolish to assume that this Zia ul Haq invented political party is a continuation of the original Muslim League. We all know how Zia’s former predecessor deposed of Fatima Jinnah.

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Rather, PMLN has disturbing similarities with the former Punjab Unionist Party which disappeared in 1947.

They too were heavily dominated by East Punjabi Muslims. Funny enough, they opposed Pakistan's independence and represented to views of the landlords and wealthy elite of Punjab - sound familiar?

I'm not saying all Amritsaris vote for PMLN, and I'm not saying all Urdu speakers vote for MQM, but what I'm noticing is how the hardcore PMLN supporters narrative is slowly beginning to change its tone from a fake nationalist view to a fake "Punjabi" view, which is disingenuous.

1. East Punjabis don't represent the majority of Punjab's population.

2. PMLN's entire leadership actually consist of Kashmiri immigrants to East Punjab. Ethnically Nawaz Sharif's entire family are all Kashmiris, who settled in East Punjab at the turn of the 19th century due to famine in the Kashmir Valley.

Hilariously, most Kashmiris from the valley disown them and the Sharif’s themselves regard Jati Umra as their ancestral home.

If I’m trying further trying to dig a hole for the Pakistan Dalla Movement on social media, I would push this narrative hard. These people have never had Pakistan’s interests at heart…ever.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/817764817784242176

https://twitter.com/x/status/333962836395061249

https://twitter.com/x/status/1344354851833131009

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PTI = TTP


IK released TTP terrorists from the prisons in the name of peace.


IK has undone all the gains of our military against TTP terrorists.


Also IK keeps praising India.


As India was removing autonomy in Kashmir all IK did was give useless speeches.

 

[Neelo]

They will try their level best to give a spin to punjab politics so that it looks ethno facist.
Better to ignore them in an argument. No Idea why are they not happy that this part of Pakistan is still safe from Ethnic hatered instead they are irritated for Punjab

Nobody is spinning anything here, but it’s a fact that a massive majority of PMLN support comes from East Punjabis. I’m sorry if that hurts your feelings, but that’s just a fact.

Let me guess, you think Seriaki is a dialect of Punjabi and oppose the creation of two new provinces to create a more equitable federation right?

In reality it should be three….Seraikistan, Potohar with the remaining districts remaining as Punjab.

Never heard of a province with 100,000,000 people in it. Ridiculous.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Nobody is spinning anything here, but it’s a fact that a massive majority of PMLN support comes from East Punjabis. I’m sorry if that hurts your feelings, but that’s just a fact.

Let me guess, you think Seriaki is a dialect of Punjabi and oppose the creation of two new provinces to create a more equitable federation right?

In reality it should be three….Seraikistan, Potohar with the remaining districts remaining as Punjab.

Never heard of a province with 100,000,000 people in it. Ridiculous.

IK gets his support from TTP terrorists and Afghan immigrants.

Just stating the facts.

 

[Neelo]

PTI = TTP


IK released TTP terrorists from the prisons in the name of peace.


IK has undone all the gains of our military against TTP terrorists.


Also IK keeps praising India.


As India was removing autonomy in Kashmir all IK did was give useless speeches.

Looks like I hit a nerve with this Amritsari.

PTI = Tehreek e Insaf.

Just because it’s supported by Pashtuns doesn’t make it a terrorist organization. Just goes to show your true racism chutiye insaan.

Which TTP terrorists did he release? Share the link here.

You do realise that the TTP wouldn’t exist today if Pakistan refused to allow America a base to attack Afghanistan right?

Here’s Imran Khan “praising India”

Like I said earlier…it’s in the blood of Amritsaris to lie, cheat and steal. You were used like slaves by the British, Sikh and Afghans all throughout your history.

And it shows here.

 

[Zhukov]

Nobody is spinning anything here, but it’s a fact that a massive majority of PMLN support comes from East Punjabis. I’m sorry if that hurts your feelings, but that’s just a fact.

Let me guess, you think Seriaki is a dialect of Punjabi and oppose the creation of two new provinces to create a more equitable federation right?

In reality it should be three….Seraikistan, Potohar with the remaining districts remaining as Punjab.

Never heard of a province with 100,000,000 people in it. Ridiculous.

Saraiki is punjabi? Where did you read that? And what makes you think i think this?
Anyways. Your are a unfortunately clearly a Punjabophobe and i dont see anypoint discussing reconfiguration of Punjab province with people who have clear prejudice against Punjab.

I am of the opinnion that Whole Pakistan should be subdivided into Divisions and All provinces should be disbanded. Pakistan should have 50+ Administrative divisions with strong decentralized local bodies. Provinces are a sword on the neck of an integrated Pakistan. If that answers your question.

 

[Neelo]

IK gets his support from TTP terrorists and Afghan immigrants.

Just stating the facts.

Facts

Apparently half of Punjab, most of KP and Karachi are all Afghan immigrants now.

This is why nobody here takes you seriously….go pick up Kerpal from Pearson. Chal shahbash.