all of these are done by the military.
it was the political and national consensus which lead to all the successful operations. and this was developed by ppp government. if not then why couldnt military defeat them during musharraf regime after all we had operations going on back then as well.
The military has been at the backbone of these military operations, both at the media front and governance.
During Musharraf's time we were not at war with them.
wat do u mean it was going to happen? nothing happens unless someone does it. and PPP did it. should i say pakistan had to be formed so wat quaid e azam did was nothing special?
Obviously because Zardari gets dollars from the US. Why wouldn't he support their wars and work towards their goals in Afghanistan?
You just keep sidetracking from the core issues. What happened to the judiciary when Zardari came to power? Forgot the long march?
This is a bunch of rubbish. The sugar wheat crisis was tied to global demand and supply. The demand has climbed down globally in the past year or so, hence lowering the prices.
wheat crisis was bec of musharraf. he exported all the surplus wheat which ppp had to import later on to bring down the price. and as far as sugar crisis is concerned, indian gov recently accepted that they have failed to brought down sugar price. so how come it was a global phenomenon for which ppp gov didnt have to do anything?
Do you really think Musharraf was busy selling wheat during his tenure? that just sounds hilarious.
Read my comment again. The crisis was Global due to extravagant increases in demand for Wheat. Wheat mills sold the wheat outside the country b/c they made more profits.
Pakistan is not the only country that faced Wheat crisis. All major wheat producing countries faced the crisis, including India and China.
Even in Canada the price of flour went from $10 a bag to $15.
PPP has nothing to do with it. Rather it was Imran Khan who started 2 rupees rottee DURING the crisis, and then other parties followed suit. Where was the PPP then?
i praise imran khan for that. but do you mean it was his sasti roti which lead to the fall in flour price?
What was the PPP doing when there was a wheat crisis in the country? Any idea what Zardari was doing to help the commoners?
Let me guess: OH! He was making deals with Musharraf & the US. Damn.
I personally know one PPP family that owns 4 sugar mills in Punjab...and these ppl give a *** arse about the commoners.
so? are politicians not allowed to own any business? even nawaz sharif own few mills. and they all use it to make profit at the cost of public. we cant to much about that.
Yes, PML-N has a track record of promoting agricultural awareness and tech in Pakistan, especially in Punjab which is backbone of Pakistan food supply.
they own mills but they also have been instrumental in uplifting the farming community.
And further plunging in 10s of billion dollars in foreign debt.
yes. isnt that better than no money to fund your war, food crisis, development projects, payment for imports, and keeping your Rs stable? and foreign debt is no unknown thing. many developed european countries have far more foreign debt than us (in terms of percentage to GDP).
Ever since the war initiated, Pakistan has lost over $50 billion in economic activities.
Foreign Investment has dwindlled. What has the PPP done to stop the drone attacks, which is the root cause of terrorism?
Foreign countries are in debt but they also have initiated economic policies to stimulate the economy. What has the PPP done to stimulate the economy??
The PPP's corruption is more than enough justification for terrorists to launch attacks.
What an inaccurate and dishonest statement.
Really?
The past three years our economy has suffered more than any other economy in SA due to WOT. 30 billion+ losses due to ineconomic activities.
so how is ppp gov at fault?
They are at fault for allowing the US to continue drone attacks that kills 93% innocent civilians, and adds the much needed fuel to the fire of terrorism.
Suicide bomb attacks have only increased killing thousands of civilians and so have the Drone attacks. This is the result of the PPP government's policies.
Drones havn't stopped. The whole economcy of the tribal belt has been reduced to rubble.
Drones havent stopped coz they have been targeting targets in collaboration with our intelligence agency. and yes there is a war going on and how do u expect there to be zero rubble.
Does that mean we should allow the killings of civilians?
Does *any* country in the world allow that? Would the US allow it on its territory?
Ever wondered what Britian did to curb the IRA from bombing their cities?
What good are petty income support cheques that hardly meet the basic needs of people there?
ask those who find it hard to feed their children and they will tell you wat these 'petty income support cheques' mean to them.
So you agree with destroying their economies, homes and livelyhood, plunging them into sheer poverty and chaos, and then giving them Rs. 2000/month cheques for survival?
Benazir Bhutto welfare program (why not name it Quad-e-Azam??) is a good marketing strategy to further fool the poor and illiterate masses for votes. It's teh STATE that is paying welfare based on foreign loans we receive, not PPP. Benazir isn't paying the poor people from her grave now is she.
name doesnt matter. what matters is the programme. im sure Quaid e Azam is not interested in a change of name. and yes its the state which pays but the policies are made by the governments. will you sell your house and pay for this programme if you become a minister? obviously no. that is not how things work. government use income generated from taxes and other sources to help poor etc.
The biggest source of income for governments are tax collections.
What right does the PPP have to use his wife's name? Does the PPP/Benazir own Pakistan? Do we live in a monarchy? If not, then how can they give a Politicians name to state sponsored program?
It's a sheer marketing/publicity strategy by the PPP to further fool the masses.
Can you name any other democratic welfare state that uses such names??
In Canada each province has jurisdiction over its welfare and goes by province's name.
I really can't believe you're justifying such low publicity of the PPP govn't that has zero credibility in the eyes of the masses.
im sure Quaid e Azam is not interested in a change of name.
Did Quad-e-Azam call you up from his grave just to tell of how satisfied he was with the PPP's policy of naming a state sponsored program after Benazir?
amazing analysis. you are saying that it only takes a second to change your constitution? there are many parties which are involved in this process and therefore moving fwd with consensus is not an easy task. and if you havent noticed a total of 100 changes have been made. is that something which could have happened over night? and wat do u mean its late? do we not need constitution any more or has pakistan vanished from the face of earth? your first constitution came in 1973 where as we were created in 1947. going by your logic, 1973 was too late and therefore no one should have voted for it approval.
You have yet to explain why Zardari's based PPP did not restore Judges after taking oath, did not curtail presidential powers, amongst other things they promised the public? Does it really take 2 years to do that?
Utter rubbish. it's only buying time and playing with the public.
our cooperation with iran in terms of security and economics has greatly increased. and it takes time for countries to build firm relationship.
how is it an outcome of Gen Kiyani? I thought it was zardari who has been attending Karzai's oath taking ceremony and vice versa. and it was our whole cabinet which received karzai at the airport when he came. yes Gen Kiyani played a big role but that doesnt mean you can side line all effort being put in by other quarters which include ppp gov.
I can see how cooperation with Iran has incrased when Iran accused Pakistan of sponsoring terrorism on its soil, refering to the Jundullah suicide attack that killed Iranian generals.
The oil pipelines and other regional agreements are all outcome of Gen Musharraf era. PPP has absolutely no role in it.
So you'd rather support people that deliberately make blunders for personal gains? and correct them later for PR purposes and to restore credibility?
yes i will support someone who comes back to the right path after recognising his mistake and not someone who makes it a matter of his pride.
With this conclusion, Your argument has lost all credibility.
It's pointless to argue with some1 that accepts and supports nefariously corrupt and unmoral political figures who have cheated the nation times and again, and have come to power once again, they have zero credibility.
As the saying goes that befits your argument...Cheat Me Once, Shame on You; Cheat Me Twice, Shame on Me.