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PM Khan condemned EU officials for lacking the guts to ask India to condemn Russia.

At least US has balls to try sanction India for attempt siding with Russia. While EU don't dare even to utter a single word.
 

India urged to condemn Russia if it wants to be taken seriously


WASHINGTON: A senior US lawmaker has called upon India to condemn Russia if it wants to be taken seriously on the world stage.
At a recent emergency session of the UN General Assembly, 141 countries voted for a resolution condemning Russia and demanding immediate withdrawal of its troops from Ukraine. But 35 countries — including India, Pakistan and Bangladesh — abstained. Five, including Russia, voted against it.
The voting pattern came up for discussion at a hearing of the House Foreign Affairs Committee where a senior lawmaker, Ted Lieu, criticised New Delhi for abandoning democratic principles for appeasing Russia. “If India wants to be taken seriously on the world stage, if they want to be part of their family of democracies, they need to condemn Russia,” said Mr Lieu who is a co-chair of the House Committee for Democratic Policy and Communications.
It’s not very hard to do. It’s not like we’re asking India to sanction Russia, just condemn them,” Mr Lieu added, noting that India “is a democracy that wants to be respected on the world stage” and yet it did not vote for the resolution.

And what did they get in exchange? Russia gave India six hours to get Indian residents evacuated out of Ukraine, six hours. That’s what India got in exchange,” he said. “That’s a slap in the face to India.”
Published in Dawn, March 6th, 2022

 

India urged to condemn Russia if it wants to be taken seriously


WASHINGTON: A senior US lawmaker has called upon India to condemn Russia if it wants to be taken seriously on the world stage.
At a recent emergency session of the UN General Assembly, 141 countries voted for a resolution condemning Russia and demanding immediate withdrawal of its troops from Ukraine. But 35 countries — including India, Pakistan and Bangladesh — abstained. Five, including Russia, voted against it.
The voting pattern came up for discussion at a hearing of the House Foreign Affairs Committee where a senior lawmaker, Ted Lieu, criticised New Delhi for abandoning democratic principles for appeasing Russia. “If India wants to be taken seriously on the world stage, if they want to be part of their family of democracies, they need to condemn Russia,” said Mr Lieu who is a co-chair of the House Committee for Democratic Policy and Communications.
It’s not very hard to do. It’s not like we’re asking India to sanction Russia, just condemn them,” Mr Lieu added, noting that India “is a democracy that wants to be respected on the world stage” and yet it did not vote for the resolution.

And what did they get in exchange? Russia gave India six hours to get Indian residents evacuated out of Ukraine, six hours. That’s what India got in exchange,” he said. “That’s a slap in the face to India.”
Published in Dawn, March 6th, 2022

what we received was a letter from all EU countries, this is just one representative's rant.
 
what we received was a letter from all EU countries, this is just one representative's rant.

things are getting awkward, it is not just this but is the continuity of developments, although US is quietly watching them.

US: who knows when they make a mountain of a molehill.
 
I don't think so, 15,000 Russians were killed in Afghanistan over 10 years. The Russians have almost hit those numbers in Ukraine in 10 days. The fall of USSR was inevitable it would have collapsed with or without Afghanistan.

The Afghanistan War cost the feeble Soviet economy a huge number of dollars, murdered approximately 15,000 Soviet troopers, and prompted strategic seclusion of the Soviet state as the US responded by closure armistice. Taken together, these components unquestionably did not fortify the USSR.
Because political, military, economic and internal deteriorations were developed due to the invasion of Afghanistan, the collapse of the Soviet Union was inevitable. Although it was not the reason the sequences of events led up to the USSR’s breakdown.

Pakistan was one of the players in that demise. Pakistan doesnt take the whole credit ofcourse US Europe saudia and other states were there as well.. USSR may would have existed and been stronger today had it reached gwadar and developed a base and port there keeping check on the gulf oil traffic. They also wanted to tap the indian market by supplying oil and gas and Pakistan could have offered them the leeway. But instead we fought them ..we faced their airstrikes, attacks launched by their proxies and even were in a hand to hand combat inside Afghanistan. They could have reversed their economic woes and settled the autonomy movements within time but Gorbachev tried something new and he failed at it.. more than anyone of us.. it was Soviets themselves who destroyed their soviet state via gradual democratization.
 
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Pakistan needs space to build its economy. Don't concern yourself with skirmishes thousands of miles away. Had 20 years of war and they didn't consider the blowback to Pakistan in any way. Just gleeful DW headlines highlighting how many dead and comments sections full of racism.

If a war broke out in africa you think euros care? Send some crocodile tears and BAU.
 
Pakistan was one of the players in that demise. Pakistan doesnt take the whole credit ofcourse US Europe saudia and other states were there as well.. USSR would have existed and been stronger today had it reached gwadar and developed a base and port there keeping check on the gulf oil traffic. They also wanted to tap the indian market by supplying oil and gas and Pakistan could have offered them the leeway. But instead we fought them ..we faced their airstrikes, attacks launched by their proxies and even were in a hand to hand combat inside Afghanistan. They could have reversed their economic woes and settled the autonomy movements within time but Gorbachev tried something new and he failed at it.. more than anyone of us.. it was Soviets themselves who destroyed their soviet state via gradual democratization.

Zia ul Haq agreed to support US covert operations in Afghanistan in exchange for economic aid and a US guarantee of protection against the Soviet Union. People forget US-Pakistan relations was at its lowest point under Carter-Zia ul Haq after the coup and murder of Bhutto by Zia. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan changed everything.

I've been here long enough and these arguments have been rehashed many times, I'm not naive to believe pdf fairly tales.
 
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Zia ul Haq agreed to support US covert operations in Afghanistan in exchange for economic aid and a US guarantee of protection against the Soviet Union. People forget US-Pakistan relations was at its lowest point under Carter-Zia ul Haq after the coup and murder of Bhutto by Zia. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan changed everything.

I've been here long enough and these arguments have been rehashed many times, I'm not naive to believe pdf fairly tales.
Pakistan was in Afghanistan fighting USSR way before US jumped in.
Pakistan was training Afghans on their own since panjsher valley uprising of 1974.Then the Invasion came in 1979 and still US didn't provide any support. US only dropped in around 1982-83 when they saw the afghan potential in pushing USSR back..
We did it for ourselves, not for economic support , USSR on our borders was a threat to our national sovereignty.
 
Pakistan was in Afghanistan fighting USSR way before US jumped in.
Pakistan was training Afghans on their own since panjsher valley uprising of 1974.Then the Invasion came in 1979 and still US didn't provide any support. US only dropped in around 1982-83 when they saw the afghan potential in pushing USSR back..
We did it for ourselves, not for economic support , USSR on our borders was a threat to our national sovereignty.

does it matter? Pakistan did not fight the USSR for the US, it fought for its own self interest.
 

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