PM Imran says don’t undermine state as it comes before politics

[El Sidd]

individuals who did that should be brought to trial!

But I dont see any opposition even raising that or going through the "proper channels" ..You know the ones that give them bail even for lying under oath, fabricating evidence and bad mouthing the state institutions just for power...

None of them are sincere to the cause of Kashmir or Pakistan.

Even the government is using this protest to mask their incompetency and refuse to provide Pakistanis with a roadmap regarding Kashmir.

We must also remember the reason why this government is not pursuing foreign funding cases against PTM is because the courts are hearing the exact cases against PTI.

 

[Dubious]

None of them are sincere to the cause of Kashmir or Pakistan.

Then why bash 1 with so much passion while letting the others breathe fresh air? Bash all equally please

 

[El Sidd]

Which Muslims are protesting for KASHMIR? I dont see them talking to their counterparts in india...rather saw them talking to security chief of india...Wonder how much help that gave Kashmiris?

What Islamic laws? When have these same so called Muslims raised voices against rape, child abuse, spouse abuse, poverty?

Massive protests by TLP and JI are not coming to mainstream media due to government using PEMRA as political tool.
Muslims in Pakistan have always raised slogans of equality and justice. They just get killed for it by every government routinely.

 

[Dubious]

We must also remember the reason why this government is not pursuing foreign funding cases against PTM is because the courts are hearing the exact cases against PTI.

I dont think that is the reason. And I dont hear about PTM that much ...it was mostly full of emotional fools...the leaders may be puppets but not really the followers...More or less like this azadi march participants!

 

[El Sidd]

Then why bash 1 with so much passion while letting the others breathe fresh air? Bash all equally please

It is a hierarchical order. It is not my problem if people here have a short term memory and cannot recall 2017 and 2018 and everything changed with GE2018

Government first.
Opposition later.


Public never.

 

[Dubious]

Massive protests by TLP and JI are not coming to mainstream media due to government using PEMRA as political tool.

I know you are not in Pakistan so let me update you...Every freaking day we have HOURS of coverage on media about NS's health and this Azadi march...Any foreigner would think that is all that is happening in Pakistan!

 

[El Sidd]

I dont think that is the reason. And I dont hear about PTM that much ...it was mostly full of emotional fools...the leaders may be puppets but not really the followers...More or less like this azadi march participants!

PTM activists have been helped by this government to escape to Western countries. The government made flimsy cases with technical mistakes which the courts threw out.

 

[Dubious]

Muslims in Pakistan have always raised slogans of equality and justice. They just get killed for it by every government routinely.

I have not seen a Muslim who goes for this and doesnt swear, take bribe, do some form of mischief, indulge in ribba, look for easy fortune even if it is haram...

NEVER voice for the oppressed- ONLY for their political master's seat to warm their rear...Same masters who forget them after they have been placed in the leadership position! SUCH morons are not Muslims....but hijacking Islam!

I am yet to hear slogans from these creatures for acid burn victims, for child abuse, rape, harassment, spouse beating!

PTM activists have been helped by this government to escape to Western countries. The government made flimsy cases with technical mistakes which the courts threw out.

Then why didnt you bring in the "real" evidence?!

The same flimsy cases also set Maryum free!
Same flimsy cases allowed Zardari and his sister to loot!

So the problem isnt in the government - more like the incompetency of the institutions!

 

[El Sidd]

I know you are not in Pakistan so let me update you...Every freaking day we have HOURS of coverage on media about NS's health and this Azadi march...Any foreigner would think that is all that is happening in Pakistan!

You do know private media only goes for the highest bidder?

And they seem to have learned it from Punjab government who made it a routine to come every day at 4 and brief the world on what prisoners ate in the prison.

 

[Dubious]

You do know private media only goes for the highest bidder?

Then how can you put the blame on the PM or the government?!

And they seem to have learned it from Punjab government who made it a routine to come every day at 4 and brief the world on what prisoners ate in the prison.

And I wonder who pays them to announce such shit?

I mean media needs money to run such shit, right?

 

[El Sidd]

Then why didnt you bring in the "real" evidence?!

The same flimsy cases also set Maryum free!
Same flimsy cases allowed Zardari and his sister to loot!

So the problem isnt in the government - more like the incompetency of the institutions!

On the contrary, the government is the prosecutor and they cater for the evidences. It is not rocket science that America had asked GoP to let PTM run free and GoP agreed to it.

I have not seen a Muslim who goes for this and doesnt swear, take bribe, do some form of mischief, indulge in ribba, look for easy fortune even if it is haram...

NEVER voice for the oppressed- ONLY for their political master's seat to warm their rear...Same masters who forget them after they have been placed in the leadership position! SUCH morons are not Muslims....but hijacking Islam!

I am yet to hear slogans from these creatures for acid burn victims, for child abuse, rape, harassment, spouse beating!

So what are the government steps regarding child rapes in kasur and how long will the investigation last?

Then how can you put the blame on the PM or the government?!

Because the government and PM are directly responsible for running of affairs of the State.

Shall i go around and blame the public or those who are not in power? What will that achieve?

And I wonder who pays them to announce such shit?

I mean media needs money to run such shit, right?

Punjab Government made it a routine and you really have to just go through the food threads here to understand why it sells in media.

 

[Dubious]

On the contrary, the government is the prosecutor and they cater for the evidences. It is not rocket science that America had asked GoP to let PTM run free and GoP agreed to it.

We dont know that but we can assume...
If you look at it that way: Seems like UK also asked for Shariff to be set free, right?

So what are the government steps regarding child rapes in kasur and how long will the investigation last?

Ask the MPA/ MNA - shouldnt they be responsible as part of the government?

I dont know why people dont pull their MNA/ MPA on to the streets ....

Because the government and PM are directly responsible for running of affairs of the State.

Shall i go around and blame the public or those who are not in power? What will that achieve?

Yes, because it is the public who is running the government, or did we hire aliens?

2ndly, the institutions didnt get rotten overnight or over 2 years...They have been systematically destroyed over decades of self protecting corrupt families

 

[El Sidd]

We dont know that but we can assume...
If you look at it that way: Seems like UK also asked for Shariff to be set free, right?

Ask Chowdary Sarwar and you will know it is not entirely false the preposition.

Ask the MPA/ MNA - shouldnt they be responsible as part of the government?

I dont know why people dont pull their MNA/ MPA on to the streets ....

Because 1) These MNA MPAs simply use the rhetoric, support us or PPP PMLN will be back.
2) If they go and demand actions from these MNA MPA then someone will come and say that politics is weakening the state.

Yes, because it is the public who is running the government, or did we hire aliens?

2ndly, the institutions didnt get rotten overnight or over 2 years...They have been systematically destroyed over decades of self protecting corrupt families

then resign and call it a day. Why insist on prolonged failure?

 

[Dubious]

Ask Chowdary Sarwar and you will know it is not entirely false the preposition.

So Shariff's now British?

First Saudi then Qatari now British?

Because 1) These MNA MPAs simply use the rhetoric, support us or PPP PMLN will be back.
2) If they go and demand actions from these MNA MPA then someone will come and say that politics is weakening the state.

So you know the rot is deep!

Then why bash only 1?

then resign and call it a day. Why insist on prolonged failure?

How will that help?

 

[El Sidd]

So Shariff's now British?

First Saudi then Qatari now British?

Qatar, Turkey and UK host Mr. Sharifs business empire.
Even the infamous NRO was engineered by the Brits.

So you know the rot is deep!

Then why bash only 1?

Because that 1 is keeping the system alive and all these relevant.

How will that help?

It will help expose the system. Someone was telling me he would have resigned but since he made signatures on some mega corruption projects, he is being blackmailed to stay longer since the opponents he has gathered will go for strict accountability against him the moment he steps down.