Please don't steal our Technology, says Russia

[Ras]

This is the second time you have said this, is South Korean not western? What about Greece? How about Malaysia, Cyprus, Kuwait, Mexico, Finland or Indonesia?

There is also possible future Western buyers of Russian military equipment this includes, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

Something you might find useful: Russia plans to sell arms to NATO members | Russia | RIA Novosti



This is rediculous, Russia has arms buyers In South America, Africa, Europe, and the Middle East. Russia isn't the second largest arms exporter by coincidence or because of India alone.

Does any ME,South American,African nation buys as much as China and India? Sure many nations buy small amount of Russian arms but none as much as these 2 nations,

South Korea is not a Western nation nor is Malaysia, Cyprus, Kuwait, or Indonesia...Greece will not be buying anything from anyone anytime soon.Finland is also moving to the West.

If you count Mexico as a Russian arms buyer then you should include the US too.After all we buy helicopters and rent Russian transport aircraft!

What the hell would NATO want from Russia?

 

[ptldM3]

Does any ME,South American,African nation buys as much as China and India? Sure many nations buy small amount of Russian arms but none as much as these 2 nations,

Russia sold over 8.5 Billion in military goods last year with another 34 billion "in the books".

India purchased 2.1 Billion in military goods in 2009 and 23% of that was purchased from counties other then Russia.

South Korea is not a Western nation nor is Malaysia, Cyprus, Kuwait, or Indonesia...Greece will not be buying anything from anyone anytime soon.Finland is also moving to the West.

South Korea is considered 'Western' in many parts of the world and so is Cyprus, infact it doesn't get more Western then using the Euro for currency (Syprus). The term Western is not only a term that distinguishes a geographic location but is also based on principals of democracy, alliance ect. South Korea, although not considered western in the traditional sense is Western by an economical and idiological sense.

No matter how you interpret Western, your point was that countries that have been traditionally reliant on Western military equipment have never and will never by from Russia and that was false.

And Greece's economical state is irrelevant, what is relevant is they are Western and they have purchaced Russian military hardware.

If you count Mexico as a Russian arms buyer then you should include the US too.After all we buy helicopters and rent Russian transport aircraft!

Does the US military use Russian helicopters? Does renting a civilian aircraft count as an arms purchase? The question to both is No.

What the hell would NATO want from Russia?

Is this a serious question?

 

[Ras]

Russia sold over 8.5 Billion in military goods last year with another 34 billion "in the books".

India purchased 2.1 Billion in military goods in 2009 and 23% of that was purchased from counties other then Russia.





South Korea is considered 'Western' in many parts of the world and so is Cyprus, infact it doesn't get more Western then using the Euro for currency (Syprus). The term Western is not only a term that distinguishes a geographic location but is also based on principals of democracy, alliance ect. South Korea, although not considered western in the traditional sense is Western by an economical and idiological sense.

No matter how you interpret Western, your point was that countries that have been traditionally reliant on Western military equipment have never and will never by from Russia and that was false.

And Greece's economical state is irrelevant, what is relevant is they are Western and they have purchaced Russian military hardware.



Does the US military use Russian helicopters? Does renting a civilian aircraft count as an arms purchase? The question to both is No.



Is this a serious question?

Yes it is.. what does Russia have in military technology that NATO countries cannot get from the US?

 

[Guynextdoor]

LOL. N I thought it might have something to do with recent objections from Russian defence industry on some stuff that Indian Industry has been upto (like designing the T 72 simulator- russian companies think it's their prerogative and Indians think it's ok coz the 'ballistics is well known'). You guys have kept a WHOLE thread going on for TWO days based on moin ansari's rantings? He's like the ultimate nut case. According to him Pak Fa is 'neither fifth generation nor stealth', Al Khalid will slay the world, the CJ 17's will not be delievered to India coz the US has 'cancelled it' etc.


What a ridiculous thread. Complete waste of time.

 

[faithfulguy]

Western countries would buy Russian arms only if they want the budget version of a weapon. If they want quality, its USA all the way, baby.

 

[ptldM3]

what does Russia have in military technology that NATO countries cannot get from the US?

The US can offer everything that Russia can but you are looking at it in a one dimensional manner.

Firstly most major Nato members operate their own weapons whether it be Typhoon, Rafale, Mirage, Leopard tank, Challenger tank or some other weapons platform, this means both US and Russian markets in Europe is limited esspecially Russian's because of an already established reliance on US and European systems.

Secondly, it comes down to price and requirments, why pay more for one system when another system does the same for cheaper? For example, why purchase an aircraft that may not suit your needs?

And of course, there is politics involved.

Price, requirments, and politics is what altimately drives sales; for instance, lets look at Malaysia, they ordered SU-30MKM's just seven years after they ordered F-18's, this is because the aircraft is very good and it meets Malaysia's requirments but at the same time it is very reasonably priced, and lastely there was no political friction between the two countries, the same can't be said for the relationship between Poland and Russia, or Venezuela and the US, so of course Poland will go to the US and Venezuela to Russia.

 

[ptldM3]

Western countries would buy Russian arms only if they want the budget version of a weapon. If they want quality, its USA all the way, baby.

Now your're just being arrogant, i guess the US themselves wanted cheap budget engines when they installed more powerful and reliable Russian RD-180 engines on their Atlas rockets, which they purchased for over a billion dollars.

 

[AbuSalam]

BLAH BLAH..thread full of BS..what a waste of grey cells !!

 

[Dark Angel]

I think i should also start a crappy website like rupeenews seems like we have a lot of fanboys out there

 

[RedKnight]

What was all this article all about, one sentence doesn't make any sense when conjoined with another?

 

[Calculator]

]Russian Missile technology[/B] (Brahmos) now India considers "Indigenous".

Get some knowledge before sledging.
Its not only russian technology ,its Indian also
The name BrahMos comes from the Indian River Brahmputra and Moskva river of Russia, so its a joint venture, not russian technology only.

 

[Calculator]

Do you(Hafiz) have any link for the news?
The indo-russian relationship goes like this.
Relations with India have always been and I am sure will be one of the most important foreign policy priorities of our country. Our mutual ties of friendship are filled with sympathy, and trust, and openness. And we must say frankly that they were never overshadowed by disagreements or conflict. This understanding - this is indeed the common heritage of our peoples. It is valued and cherished in our country, in Russia, and in India. And we are rightfully proud of so close, so close relations between our countries.

– Dmitry Medvedev, about relations with India

We are confident that India lives in the hearts of every Russian. In the same way, I can assure you that Russia also lives in our souls as a Homeland, as people who share our emotions, our feelings of mutual respect and constant friendship. Long live our friendship!

– Pratibha Patil, about relations with Russia

And the news you posted is false!
We don't only get technology from russia, but we also transfer our technology to Russia.
Its a sharing bond,not a one side transfer bond.

There has never been a relationship between Ind and Rus. involving complaints.

Russia, India to sign $4 billion military technical cooperation contracts | Russia | RIA Novosti