PLA's Second Artillery Corps to create a mysterious "underground Great Wall"

[aimarraul]

PLA's Second Artillery Corps to create a mysterious "underground Great Wall" anti-earth-penetrating nuclear bombs

Recently, sponsored by the People’s Liberation Army, “China National Defense News,” revealed the Second Artillery missile forces to build an underground cavern situation. Then, Taiwan’s “Asia-Pacific Defense” magazine invited former Taiwan Vice Admiral Lanning Li wrote entitled “The destructive power of projection: the PLA’s Second Artillery Corps, a remote fly (guided) bombs,” the article, which also appeared on the Second Artillery underground missile facilities, analytical content. Analysts said that the Chinese media dared to publish these are called “Underground Great Wall” of the strategic facilities showed that the Chinese system of its nuclear operations with unprecedented confidence and courage.

Western experts estimated that China’s Second Artillery missile positions are very strong, “if used ground-penetrating nuclear warheads to China’s missile attack positions, then we will need a few pieces of hundreds of thousands of tons equivalent of nuclear warheads in a row before hitting the same point breakdown, and to their complete destruction, the need for more nuclear warheads “and so on.

 

[manglasiva]

what a post

 

[grey boy 2]

Really cool pictures, it reminded me of those secret underground

bases in some James Bond movies.

 

[Creder]

rock on....looks neat

 

[shchinese]

actually it is not "underground", most of these are inside mountains.

 

[Martian2]

I'm shocked that China built 3,000 miles of tunnels (under mountains) that are wide enough to simultaneously accommodate two rail trains. I can't imagine the money that China spent to ensure a "second strike"/nuclear counterattack.

The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - China Builds Underground 'Great Wall' Against Nuke Attack

"China Builds Underground 'Great Wall' Against Nuke Attack

The Chinese Army is believed to have built an underground "Great Wall" that stretches for more than 5,000 km in the Hebei region of northern China. Citing the People's Liberation Army's official newsletter, the Ta Kung Pao daily of Hong Kong on Saturday said China's strategic missile squadron, the Second Artillery Division, built a massive underground tunnel to conceal nuclear weapons, including the Dongfeng 5 intercontinental ballistic missile with a range of 13,000 km.

Since 1995, the Second Artillery Division has mobilized tens of thousands of soldiers to build a network of tunnels stretching for more than 5,000 km below the mountain regions of Hebei, China's state-run CCTV reported. "A missile base has been built hundreds of meters underground and can withstand several nuclear attacks," CCTV said. "People refer to the network of tunnels connecting to the missile base as the 'Underground Great Wall.'" In March 2008, CCTV broadcast a documentary which revealed that the PLA had been building underground facilities enabling it to launch a counterstrike in case of a nuclear attack.

Taiwan's Asia-Pacific Defense Magazine also said, "The early version of China's mid- to long-range missiles had all been deployed above ground and were vulnerable to detection by spy satellites and attacks by interceptor missiles. That prompted the Chinese military to move all of their missiles hundreds of meters underground." As a result, the squadrons of the PLA deployed there are completely undetectable because they are based in subterranean bunkers and move around beneath the surface.

The purpose of the secretly constructed underground Great Wall is to give China a second chance after a nuclear attack, military experts said. The main objective of the Second Artillery Division is to be able to launch a counterattack against enemy targets after escaping the first volley of attacks. The Ta Kung Pao daily reported that it was unprecedented for the PLA's newsletter to reveal classified information about the tunnels and that this demonstrates Beijing's confidence in its military power.

englishnews@chosun.com / Dec. 14, 2009 09:39 KST"

 

[applesauce]

I'm shocked that China built 3,000 miles of tunnels (under mountains) that are wide enough to simultaneously accommodate two rail trains. I can't imagine the money that China spent to ensure a "second strike"/nuclear counterattack.

The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - China Builds Underground 'Great Wall' Against Nuke Attack

"China Builds Underground 'Great Wall' Against Nuke Attack

The Chinese Army is believed to have built an underground "Great Wall" that stretches for more than 5,000 km in the Hebei region of northern China. Citing the People's Liberation Army's official newsletter, the Ta Kung Pao daily of Hong Kong on Saturday said China's strategic missile squadron, the Second Artillery Division, built a massive underground tunnel to conceal nuclear weapons, including the Dongfeng 5 intercontinental ballistic missile with a range of 13,000 km.

Since 1995, the Second Artillery Division has mobilized tens of thousands of soldiers to build a network of tunnels stretching for more than 5,000 km below the mountain regions of Hebei, China's state-run CCTV reported. "A missile base has been built hundreds of meters underground and can withstand several nuclear attacks," CCTV said. "People refer to the network of tunnels connecting to the missile base as the 'Underground Great Wall.'" In March 2008, CCTV broadcast a documentary which revealed that the PLA had been building underground facilities enabling it to launch a counterstrike in case of a nuclear attack.

Taiwan's Asia-Pacific Defense Magazine also said, "The early version of China's mid- to long-range missiles had all been deployed above ground and were vulnerable to detection by spy satellites and attacks by interceptor missiles. That prompted the Chinese military to move all of their missiles hundreds of meters underground." As a result, the squadrons of the PLA deployed there are completely undetectable because they are based in subterranean bunkers and move around beneath the surface.

The purpose of the secretly constructed underground Great Wall is to give China a second chance after a nuclear attack, military experts said. The main objective of the Second Artillery Division is to be able to launch a counterattack against enemy targets after escaping the first volley of attacks. The Ta Kung Pao daily reported that it was unprecedented for the PLA's newsletter to reveal classified information about the tunnels and that this demonstrates Beijing's confidence in its military power.

englishnews@chosun.com / Dec. 14, 2009 09:39 KST"

ya know i was thinking they do have 2.3million man army, with policing work now done by the pap the army can be used for projects like this

 

[DaRk WaVe]

China's "Underground Great Wall" and Nuclear Deterrence​

By: Russell Hsiao


China's "underground Great Wall"

In early December, the People’s Liberation Army's (PLA) publication, China Defense Daily (Zhongguo Guofang Bao), published a report that provided a rare glimpse into an underground tunnel that is being built by the Second Artillery Corps (SAC)—the PLA's strategic missile forces—in the mountainous regions of Hebei Province in northern China. The network of tunnels reportedly stretches for more than 3,107 miles (Ta Kung Pao, December 11; Xinhua News Agency, December 14). The revelation of the semi-underground tunnel highlights the strides being made by China's nuclear modernization efforts, and underscores a changing deterrent relationship between the United States and China.

The labyrinthine tunnel system, dubbed by the Chinese-media as the "Underground Great Wall” (Dixia Changcheng), was built for concealing, mobilizing and deploying China's growing arsenal of nuclear weapons. According to military experts cited by various reports, the main purpose of the underground tunnel is to provide the SAC with a credible second-strike capability. The building of an underground tunnel for this purpose is consistent with China's evolving nuclear doctrine from its traditional posture of "minimum deterrence" to a doctrine of "limited deterrence," since the subterranean bunkers strengthen the survivability of China's nuclear forces and bolster its nuclear deterrence posture.

Analysts have long speculated that the SAC' most important underground missile positions were located in the mountainous area in northern China. The geography of this region is cut by steep cliffs and canyons, and therefore suited for use in covering the network of tunnels that is 3,017 miles and can feed a web of underground launch silos. According to a military analyst cited by Hong Kong-based Ta Kung Pao, "the outermost layer is 1,000 meters [3,280 feet] deep and covered with soil that does not include any artificial reinforcements" (Ta Kung Pao, December 11; Xinhua News Agency, December 14). Moreover, the Chinese reports described the tunnel system in terms of "hard and deeply buried targets" (HDBTs), which typically refers to facilities a few hundred feet deep in "underground installations." In the of case of strategic nuclear missiles, it would mean that all preparations can be completed underground, and the transportation of missiles, equipments and personnel through a network of underground corridors by rail cars or heavy-duty trailers to fixed launch sites can not be detected from observations on the ground (Ta Kung Pao, December 11; News.sina.com, December 13; Xinhua News Agency, December 14).

The SAC arsenal of land-based nuclear warheads is believed to include the DF-3A, DF-4, DF-5 (CSS-4), DF-21, DF-31 and the DF-31A. These land-based ballistic missiles have a range of 200 to 5,000 kilometers. According to one U.S.-estimate, "China has approximately 176 deployed warheads, plus an unknown number of stored warheads, for a total stockpile of approximately 240 warheads" (Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, Vol. 64, No. 3).

This report is not the first time that the existence of a tunnel of such magnitude was revealed. As early as 1995, according to a report in the Liberation Army Daily cited by Ta Kung Pao, a SAC project called the "Great Wall" was completed after 10 years of construction through the labor of "tens of thousands" of army engineers. Furthermore, the Chinese-television program, "Documentary for Military," aired by Chinese-state run television network CCTV on March 24, 2008, also revealed the status of an underground nuclear counter-strike project called the "great wall project" (Ta Kung Pao, December 11; News.sina.com, December 13).

An article published in the Taiwan-based Asia-Pacific Defense Magazine, entitled "A Destructive Projection Power: PLA Second Artillery Corps' Long-range Guided Missiles," by former Taiwanese Vice Admiral Lan Ning-li, included an analysis that also discussed underground installations of the Second Artillery Corps. According to Vice Admiral Lan's assessment: "The early version of China's mid-to long-range missiles had all been deployed above ground and were vulnerable to detection by spy satellites and attacks by interceptor missiles. That prompted the Chinese military to move all of their missiles hundreds of meters underground" (Ta Kung Pao, December 11; Chosun Ilbo, December 14). Moreover, a Hong Kong-based military analyst cited by Ta Kung Pao suggested that the timing of the open declaration about China's nuclear modernization before negotiations on the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty may be meant to draw attention to China's nuclear stature (Ta Kung Pao, December 11; News.sina.com, December 13).

Yet, while deterrence assumes that a more secure second-strike capability could enhance stability by causing adversaries to act more cautiously, some analysts have pointed out that strategic stability may not be the necessary outcome of China's deployment of a secure second-strike capability (See "The Future of Chinese Deterrence Strategy," China Brief, March 4). Since China continues to conceal details about the size and composition of its nuclear stockpile, this may lead to more concerns from China's regional neighbors over Beijing's nuclear modernization.

China's "Underground Great Wall" and Nuclear Deterrence - The Jamestown Foundation

 

[graphican]

5000 KM My God, I need more info to believe this was actually constructed to this length. Did Mr. Kapoor knew about it the moment he was talking to sattle two countries at the same and all that within 96hours? Crazy Guy.. in't he?

Great job China, couldn't have loved you more!

 

[Martian2]

5000 KM My God, I need more info to believe this was actually constructed to this length. Did Mr. Kapoor knew about it the moment he was talking to sattle two countries at the same and all that within 96hours? Crazy Guy.. in't he?

Great job China, couldn't have loved you more!

The United States and Russia have thousands of thermonuclear warheads. It requires something extraordinary, like a 5,000 KM tunnel-system under mountains, to survive a first strike and to enable a Chinese retaliatory thermonuclear counterattack.

 

[TruthSeeker]

The United States and Russia have thousands of thermonuclear warheads. It requires something extraordinary, like a 5,000 KM tunnel-system under mountains, to survive a first strike and to enable a Chinese retaliatory thermonuclear counterattack.

This is why the USA maintains its Boomer nuclear submarine fleet with hundreds of undersea launched nuclear ICBM's. The whole point of this specialized part of the USA nuclear triad is first strike survivability. The PRC is using tunnels instead of nuclear subs for this purpose.

 

[TOPGUN]

Good stuff !

 

[Martian2]

This is why the USA maintains its Boomer nuclear submarine fleet with hundreds of undersea launched nuclear ICBM's. The whole point of this specialized part of the USA nuclear triad is first strike survivability. The PRC is using tunnels instead of nuclear subs for this purpose.

Two different solutions to the same problem of surviving a first strike. The dream of this armchair general is to someday get my own country. I'll put my retaliatory strike-force in outer space (i.e. beyond Chinese ASATs) as a third solution to the same problem.

 

[applesauce]

Two different solutions to the same problem of surviving a first strike. The dream of this armchair general is to someday get my own country. I'll put my retaliatory strike-force in outer space (i.e. beyond Chinese ASATs) as a third solution to the same problem.

china have nuclear subs too, anyways, putting nukes in space? that will lead to other countries putting nukes in space ie: china, Russia every other nuclear country, will be a blow to world peace and treaty on the peaceful use of outer space. but hey silos on the moon will force us to figure out how to better exploit outer space

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

china have nuclear subs too, anyways, putting nukes in space? that will lead to other countries putting nukes in space ie: china, Russia every other nuclear country, will be a blow to world peace and treaty on the peaceful use of outer space. but hey silos on the moon will force us to figure out how to better exploit outer space

The danger of putting nukes in space is when the satellite runs out of fuel is loses contact/control with ground station will deviate its trajectory and fall down.