Pinoy rules out bilateral talks with China

[HongWu002]

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/stor...ral-talks-with-china-before-tribunal-decision

This is all the excuse we need to continue building our military base on Scarborough Shoal. Pinoys will continue to be our targets for spanking! They are heading into civil war and China only needs to push them into the fire!

 

[Jlaw]

Chinese government already knew when it was suggested to make Pinoys feel better

 

[rott]

Real intelligent pinoys.


Off topic:
@WebMaster, I had to try posting this multiple times (15 plus times) before it went through.

 

[21stCentury]

They are putting all their hopes and dreams on the mutual defense treaty with the US. Philippines is confident that if the arbitration goes their way, the US will help them enforce their claims, even going full scale war with China if that's what it will come to, for the pinoy cause.

The US can benefit from this in many ways:

1. Put their soldiers back on Philippine soil. A welcome back to their imperialist master of over 200 years.

2. US get their Asian colony back, but in a more covert way. The former colony is eager to be a comfort station again.

3. US will have permanent military base directly facing SCS via their Philippines


China too benefits:

1. Green light to increase military budget significantly

2. More military presence in SCS due to the perceived imminent US threat

3. A deal might even be struck between US and China: China controls SCS and ensures freedom of navigation, US keep its military and permanent presence in the Philippines. All three are winners

 

[C130]

They are putting all their hopes and dreams on the mutual defense treaty with the US. Philippines is confident that if the arbitration goes their way, the US will help them enforce their claims, even going full scale war with China if that's what it will come to, for the pinoy cause.

The US can benefit from this in many ways:

1. Put their soldiers back on Philippine soil. A welcome back to their imperialist master of over 200 years.

2. US get their Asian colony back, but in a more covert way. The former colony is eager to be a comfort station again.

3. US will have permanent military base directly facing SCS via their Philippines


China too benefits:

1. Green light to increase military budget significantly

2. More military presence in SCS due to the perceived imminent US threat

3. A deal might even be struck between US and China: China controls SCS and ensures freedom of navigation, US keep its military and permanent presence in the Philippines. All three are winners

my personal opinion I don't think we should have anything to do with the Philippines.

Philippines isn't worth it..

 

[ahojunk]

3. A deal might even be struck between US and China: China controls SCS and ensures freedom of navigation, US keep its military and permanent presence in the Philippines. All three are winners

If a deal is struck between US and China, I am afraid that Philippines will be the loser as the sacrificial pawn.

As Singapore's veteran diplomat, Mr Bilahari Kausikan notes, small countries would "pay the price" when big countries reach an agreement.

Philippines would loose its sovereignty (think Taiwan, Japan) and China would limit its participation in OBOR. It would also lose out exporting to the ever growing China market!

However, I have faith in Duterte. He knows how to play the game and he is much smarter than Aquino.

my personal opinion I don't think we should have anything to do with the Philippines.

Philippines isn't worth it..

Sigh! I am afraid our personal opinions don't matter too much.
It's the politicians (and their big money backers) that decide our countries fate.

 

[jerry_tan]

Good moved by the Philippines , let the tribunal decide first before proceed with the multilateral talk.

The last time the Philippines talked with China bilaterally it was a disaster , China tricked the Philippines by occupying scarboroug shoal which is within 200 miles EEZ (100mi from Philippines) .All Filipino fishermen are being banned and chased or Rammed by huge Chinese coastguard.

Until recently the patrol of US A-10 warthog the China never came back again and Filipino Fisherman returned for Fishing on scarbouroug Shoal.



As President Aquino divulge the bilateral talked with China.

"What is ours are ours what is yours we share" -CHINA

 

[ahojunk]

President Duterte shows he has balls, he is pursuing a more independent foreign policy, i.e. charting a different course to that of Aquino. US will not be happy, but will US stay silent? What will US do next?

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Manila's new leader sends positive signal to Beijing
(China Daily) 09:44, June 11, 2016

The incoming new government of the Philippines has indicated a desire for talks to solve its territorial dispute with China, igniting hopes that a fresh atmosphere can replace the chaos in the South China Sea that has characterized the past few years.

China has responded warmly by vowing to treat the Philippines as a "partner of priority" in regional cooperation.

Salvador Panelo, spokesman for President-Elect Rodrigo Duterte, said on Thursday that the incoming leader has "determined on friendly ties with China".

"The new Philippine government will carry out bilateral talks with China," Panelo said in Manila, according to China News Service. He made the remarks at an evening party marking the 41st anniversary of diplomatic ties. Duterte will take office on June 30.

Chinese Ambassador to the Philippines Zhao Jianhua said at the event that good relations between Beijing and Manila are in line with the basic interests of the two peoples, the news report said.

"The Philippines is an important country on the Maritime Silk Road and a founding member of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank," he said.

China is willing to view the Philippines as "a partner of priority" in the Belt and Road Initiative, in regional trade, industrial capacity cooperation and other areas, the report quoted Zhao as saying.

"We're willing to work with the new government of the Philippines to draw a new blueprint to lead bilateral relations back to the channel of healthy development," Zhao said, drawing applause from the audience.

Perfecto Yasay, the incoming Philippine foreign minister, said on Thursday in an interview published in the Chinese Commercial News that he will "invite China to join us to ensure peaceful settlement of our conflicts and difficulties".

Duterte said earlier that he would consider bilateral dialogue with China on the South China Sea issue if multilateral talks fail to make progress.

China's Foreign Ministry issued a statement on Wednesday insisting on bilateral negotiations with the Philippines to solve the South China Sea issue. It said Manila had shut the door to dialogue by seeking to settle the dispute through the international tribunal of the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague.

A ruling by the international arbitration body is expected within weeks. The process was launched by the Philippines to challenge China's territorial claims in the South China Sea.

Beijing has expressed strong opposition to the move, the Foreign Ministry statement said.

The Chinese Society of International Law on Friday released a paper saying any award by the tribunal is "null and void". It said the body's claim of jurisdiction, issued in October, filled with errors both of fact and the application of law. It cited six major errors by the tribunal.

"Political decisions will have no legal effect," the paper said.