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[Pictures] Warlords' thugs out in full force today in Kabul

Afghanistan really is a hopelessly lost cause. Seeing stuff like this makes me glad our people had the foresight and ambition to aim for more. No wonder these idiots killed PA soldiers just for building a border gate.
 
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we not only facilitate them to form a national unity government after soviet withdraw (Peshaware accord) but give them all our good offices to run the country as a nation but they went into their inbred infighting, Pakhtoon Vs farsawan, north south divide, went into civil war, screwed up everything and caused the rise of Taliban. People dont know the history and Pakistan is a easy scapegoat to put the blame as we dont tend to give shutup call when needed.

"caused the rise of Taliban"
It should be re-written as "ISI decided to fund the Taliban"
 
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"caused the rise of Taliban"
It should be re-written as "ISI decided to fund the Taliban"
bro one thing everyone admit rise of taliban was helped by isi but creating of taliban was total afghani internal matter .tell me what you do if two of your generals fighting a tank battle in city for whom having sex with a beautiful boy ? please tell me . situation was very very bad since soviet leave . and anyone can got mad that time . yeah i agree ISI take this chance and juice it with helping taliban .

these are not pakistani news agencies

How Afghans' Stern Rulers Took Hold
By JOHN F. BURNS with STEVE LeVINE
Published: December 31, 1996
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan— When neighbors came to Mullah Mohammed Omar in the spring of 1994, they had a story that was shocking even by the grim standards of Afghanistan's 18-year-old civil war.

Two teen-age girls from the mullah's village of Singesar had been abducted by one of the gangs of mujahedeen, or ''holy warriors,'' who controlled much of the Afghan countryside. The girls' heads had been shaved, they had been taken to a checkpoint outside the village and they had been repeatedly raped.

At the time, Mullah Omar was an obscure figure, a former guerrilla commander against occupying Soviet forces who had returned home in disgust at the terror mujahedeen groups were inflicting on Afghanistan.

He was living as a student, or talib, in a mud-walled religious school that centered on rote learning of the Koran.

But the girls' plight moved him to act. Gathering 30 former guerrilla fighters, who mustered between them 16 Kalashnikov rifles, he led an attack on the checkpoint, freed the girls and tied the checkpoint commander by a noose to the barrel of an old Soviet tank. As those around him shouted ''God is Great!'' Mullah Omar ordered the tank barrel raised and left the dead man hanging as a grisly warning.


http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/31/world/how-afghans-stern-rulers-took-hold.html?pagewanted=all

Who Is Responsible for the Taliban?
Michael Rubin

Middle East Review of International Affairs

March 2002
Kandahar and southern Afghanistan was in a state of chaos, with numerous warlords and other "barons" dividing not only the south, but also Kandahar city itself into numerous fiefdoms. Human Rights Watch labeled the situation in Kandahar "particularly precarious," and noted that, "civilians had little security from murder, rape, looting, or extortion. Humanitarian agencies frequently found their offices stripped of all equipment, their vehicles hijacked, and their staff threatened."(45) Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid argued that the internecine fighting, especially in Kandahar, had virtually eliminated the traditional leadership, leaving the door open to the Taliban.(46)

Afghanistan became a maelstrom of shifting alliances. Dostum defected from his alliance with Rabbani and Masud, and joined Himatyar in shelling the capital. The southern Pushtun warlords and bandits continued to fight each other for territory, while continuing to sell off Afghanistan's machinery, property, and even entire factories to Pakistani traders. Kidnappings, murders, rapes, and robberies were frequent as Afghan civilians found themselves in the crossfire.

The beginning of the Taliban's activity in Afghanistan is shrouded in myth. Ahmed Rashid recounted what he deemed the most credible: Neighbors of two girls kidnapped and raped by Kandahar warlords asked the Taliban's help in freeing the teenagers. The Taliban attacked a military camp, freed the girls, and executed the commander. Later, another squad of Taliban freed a young boy over whom two warlords were fighting for the right to sodomize. A Robin Hood myth grew up around Mullah Umar resulting in victimized Afghans increasingly appealing to the Taliban for help against local oppressors.

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/who-is-responsible-for-the-taliban
 
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Do not know as far as i have read out Haqqani never visited to meet Regan.

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The guy in pic is Mohammed Younis Khalis, who headed a delegation to the U.S. in late 1987. At the time, the Afghan fighters were battling the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

Caption says Jalaludin Haqqani :D
 
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"caused the rise of Taliban"
It should be re-written as "ISI decided to fund the Taliban"

Problem with you Indians is that you dont understand to just not want to learn the bigger picture. Why not comment on facts which I mentioned that Pakistan helped both Farsawan (now northern alliance) and Pakhtoon groups to share power in Kabul before they screwed it up which caused the "rise" of Taliban.
 
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Problem with you Indians is that you dont understand to just not want to learn the bigger picture. Why not comment on facts which I mentioned that Pakistan helped both Farsawan (now northern alliance) and Pakhtoon groups to share power in Kabul before they screwed it up which caused the "rise" of Taliban.

Pakistan did not support the Northern Alliance after the Soviet withdrawal
 
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Pakistan did not support the Northern Alliance after the Soviet withdrawal


Thats why I said, you Indians are clueless and simple want to piss in the air with your own theories making it look like facts without knowing history and bigger picture.
 
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