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those with little knowledge of Islam specially of Quran Should not give arguments to defend Islam , Islam is Never being against science, some 1500 years ago Islam revealed conversion or merger of species ,when world didn't knew any thing of advanced science, so please don't bring in Islam or any other religion here,
 
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we beat China to it, we created pig+monkey+rat hybrid and let them loose in our neighborhood to terrorize the region with their oddities.
 
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Sorry if what I said offend you. What I do worry about is the news itself will be weaponized and demonized as something against the faith. It will work because at least some people will take it. I never say everyone or majority of Muslim will trust western media blindly, but at least some.

Spreading fake news and demonizing China is so cheap, YouTube, twitter, Facebook, Instagram are all in US hands, thousands of $$ can do the job.

As you can see, the demonization of China is on historical high, I am not surprised this will be another cheap one.

I agree china is being demonized by the west but it is not the same with muslim world. Pakistan being a close frnd of china apart, others have good relations with china. The anti chinese sentiments in muslim world are not strong like in west. The west thus wanted to make muslims hate china so highlighted the uyughur issue. If china handles its muslim minority issues nicely and transparently, it will strengthen its perception in muslim world. A minority of a country can be a great source of international business, tourism and foreign relations for the country.
 
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So was the pig-monkey hybrid being a good Muslim when he claimed that Pakistan should never have been created?
All Aluma e Deoband said this and they had their opinion , even Bangladeshi hated the existence of Pakistan does it make them kafir , you know what it was Pervaiz Ahmed who nailed you people well behind the curtains , actually he was your big well wisher, and me too , I wish you should read Quran your self then you will realize that there is no truth what you people's are following it was and is a trape , which is leading you people straight to hell , you should understand this، still have time just for ego don't ruine your eternal life bound to come next
 
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I agree china is being demonized by the west but it is not the same with muslim world. Pakistan being a close frnd of china apart, others have good relations with china. The anti chinese sentiments in muslim world are not strong like in west. The west thus wanted to make muslims hate china so highlighted the uyughur issue. If china handles its muslim minority issues nicely and transparently, it will strengthen its perception in muslim world. A minority of a country can be a great source of international business, tourism and foreign relations for the country.
I totally agree with you that China and Muslim world should be ally, at least friends, not to mention Pakistan-China close all weather strategic friendship.

But I would be conservative on transparency of China internal affairs. China treated her people nicely, but not according to the rules of US. We have different standard, because we are in different development stage.

First of all, China need to lift poverty, you can NOT have basic human rights without clean running water, sanitary condition, such as flush toilet, garbage disposal, bath, gas and electricity. China's hands are full, working on feeding 1.4 billions people and their basic needs in past 70 years. It's not easy job.

You live in Pakistan, you are not someone in the west who point finger and have no clue about life of the poor. Those western elites have decent live, and even servants. They can bull$hit human rights all day long, and no need to bother wash their own clothes.

Second, China believe education, peace, harmony is very important than western human rights ideology.

Third, no matter what China say or do, the west will try to look for bones in an egg. It's not totally transparency issue. The more you fight back on media, the more it will be a thing and the west will counter back with more bash. It's won't work. Look at Russia, fighting hard on media, but not working well.

You can't make friend with your enemy. But you can make peace by deterrence, at least cold peace. Just like Pakistan and India.

You guys should be familiar with US mentality. US will feel unsafe even you only have a stick in hands while they have guns and cannon.

There is no way we can persuade them, but we can do our job, resolve internal issues, develop and make progress.

A stronger China will check US in East Asia(we don't have global ambition), and worldwide more or less. The US will get bored and intervene less in ME. It's good for you guys and all Muslim.

I shared an apartment with Hui Muslim Chinese about 10 years ago in US. We never had any issues. We just cook with separate pot, that's about it. Muslim in China and ME are different, actually Muslim from Indonesia are different from those in ME as well. They are not as religious as ME. I never saw my room mate pray at home, maybe somewhere I don't know. He never mentioned his religion, not a single time.

The gap between the reality on the ground and media is so large, it's out of imagination, like heaven and hell.

Come to China, my friend. Take a look with your own eyes. New China has many flaws, but we are trying to make progress after 70 years development. It's long way to go to bring 1.4 billion people prosperity and dignity.

Below is not a full list at all, it's biased. China did much more than what in the link below.
Affirmative action in China
 
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so clone is ok? I knew people with minds like you will jump out.
Dolly (sheep)
How about other genetic engineering? This is gene delivery, there are many many other projects, take a look at below link.
Gene delivery
Inserting DNA into the host genome

Are you against Gene research or specific to one animal? If the former, I can tell you, it will continue.

Clone and Hybrid breeding are two different concept under the same discipline.

In cloning, DNA and RNA was not altered. Which mean the product are always the same and you just basically reproduce the result. However, breeding hybrid animal would mean you alter one or both DNA and RNA in order to make this happen, that is not genetic research, that is genetic modification.

Breeding a Pig and Monkey are the same thing a Chinese Scientist did a few years ago when he modified the DNA from a Twin and try to create a HIV resistant baby, which result in an international condemnation, including China. Of course it would be condemned like it was before mostly because the protest are mainly form human testing, but I think the world lack of knowledge on what will happen when we modify DNA sequencing and that could lead to dangerous territories
 
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Clone and Hybrid breeding are two different concept under the same discipline.

In cloning, DNA and RNA was not altered. Which mean the product are always the same and you just basically reproduce the result. However, breeding hybrid animal would mean you alter one or both DNA and RNA in order to make this happen, that is not genetic research, that is genetic modification.

Breeding a Pig and Monkey are the same thing a Chinese Scientist did a few years ago when he modified the DNA from a Twin and try to create a HIV resistant baby, which result in an international condemnation, including China. Of course it would be condemned like it was before mostly because the protest are mainly form human testing, but I think the world lack of knowledge on what will happen when we modify DNA sequencing and that could lead to dangerous territories
When you have 2 bread dogs hybrid, it's genetic modification.

Majority of Soy Bean produced and exported are Genetically modified soybean, especially in US, Brazil and Argentina.
The rice you eat everyday are genetically modified, some are modified by chemical, some are modified by radiation. and some are modified by genetic delivery, some are just hybrid rice.

There is no natural DNA or modified DNA, all DNA are modified to some extent, there is no DNA exactly the same, even clone are not exactly the same, still very minor difference.

Natural born baby DNA copied his father and mother, is it genetic modification? Interracial marriage modify DNA much more than same race. A white and black marriage, can have black baby or white, the baby DNA changed a lot compare to those 2 white or 2 black.

The list goes on.
 
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When you have 2 bread dogs hybrid, it's genetic modification.

Majority of Soy Bean produced and exported are Genetically modified soybean, especially in US, Brazil and Argentina.
The rice you eat everyday are genetically modified, some are modified by chemical, some are modified by radiation. and some are modified by genetic delivery, some are just hybrid rice.

There is no natural DNA or modified DNA, all DNA are modified to some extent, there is no DNA exactly the same, even clone are not exactly the same, still very minor difference.

Natural born baby DNA copied his father and mother, is it genetic modification? Interracial marriage modify DNA much more than same race. A white and black marriage, can have black baby or white, the baby DNA changed a lot compare to those 2 white or 2 black.

The list goes on.

I am not really sure are you really that naive or you were just trying to make a false point. But I will say it here

You compare a Pig and a Monkey to two dog breeding, a mother and a father having a baby, but a Pig and a Monkey belong to different species, different genus, different family, different order and you make it into two animal of the same order having sex and reproduce...….

I will give you if you are going about animal of different genus like Horse and Donkey, if you have to use breeding as in your example, a Pig and Monkey hybrid is like a man is breeding with a horse. Which is actually illegal.

There are something we know about genetic mutation, mostly in plants because there are not really as much sequence as mammal, and even so, most people would think it's still unethical to genetically modify anything. That is the reason why if a food product was genetic modified, they are required to state so in the label.
 
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Some of the comments against China are unneccesary. Yes there is some question of ethics and animal rights, but you would hope as China develops further there will be a recognition of treating the ethics of animal abuses & testing.

But the West has been researching on similar ways for decades, some of the top secret labs have been exposed now & then. China cannot sit back and not explore the area, lest it be kept behind.
 
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I am not really sure are you really that naive or you were just trying to make a false point. But I will say it here

You compare a Pig and a Monkey to two dog breeding, a mother and a father having a baby, but a Pig and a Monkey belong to different species, different genus, different family, different order and you make it into two animal of the same order having sex and reproduce...….

I will give you if you are going about animal of different genus like Horse and Donkey, if you have to use breeding as in your example, a Pig and Monkey hybrid is like a man is breeding with a horse. Which is actually illegal.

There are something we know about genetic mutation, mostly in plants because there are not really as much sequence as mammal, and even so, most people would think it's still unethical to genetically modify anything. That is the reason why if a food product was genetic modified, they are required to state so in the label.
You have given example by yourself. I don't see people has any problem with mule. Mule are hybrid of different species. So is Hinny.
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Liger
The liger is a hybrid offspring of a male lion (Panthera leo) and a female tiger (Panthera tigris).
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You have given example by yourself. I don't see people has any problem with mule. Mule are hybrid of different species. So is Hinny.
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Liger
The liger is a hybrid offspring of a male lion (Panthera leo) and a female tiger (Panthera tigris).
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Are you seriously think A Pig and a Monkey are the same as A Horse and a Donkey? Or A Lion and A Tiger?

lol, if A Pig and A Monkey are the same with either one, then the world should allow a Man and a Horse to breed, maybe you should go first...
 
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