PHOTOS: First IAF C-17 Arrives At Indian Base

[Badbadman]

Livefist: PHOTOS: First IAF C-17 Arrives At Indian Base

Truly Badass. Woohoo

 

[Nishan_101]

So will IAF place another order of 10 or more...

 

[Capt.Popeye]

So will IAF place another order of 10 or more...

As of now there is an order of 10 with an option for another 6.
There are some indications that another tranche may be ordered; after the 6, but not yet confirmed. That will get clearer as the delivery of the first batch of 10 nears completion.

 

[Abingdonboy]

So will IAF place another order of 10 or more...

As of now there is an order of 10 with an option for another 6.
There are some indications that another tranche may be ordered; after the 6, but not yet confirmed. That will get clearer as the delivery of the first batch of 10 nears completion.

It is said the IAF will take a call on this later this year. it depends on how the C-17 actually performs in operational IAF service. The IAF were so impressed by the C-130Js once they entered service that they initiated talks for the follow-on 6 mere months after the Hercs entered Indian service..

If the IAF likes the way the C-17s perform then there is no reason why another 10+ C-17s won't be ordered by them.

 

[Storm Force]

350 million BIG ONES each $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4

thats $3.5 billionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn $$$$$$$$$$$$$

THAT IS ONE EXPENSIVE TRANSPORT ORDER FOR INDIAN AIR FORCE

 

[Abingdonboy]

350 million BIG ONES each $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4

thats $3.5 billionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn $$$$$$$$$$$$$

THAT IS ONE EXPENSIVE TRANSPORT ORDER FOR INDIAN AIR FORCE

The true unit cost is closer to $200mn.

 

[Storm Force]

i THOUGHT THE CONTRACT WAS FOR $3.5 BILLION X 10 PLANES

 

[Abingdonboy]

i THOUGHT THE CONTRACT WAS FOR $3.5 BILLION X 10 PLANES

This is a common mistake- such include setting up of infrastructure, spares, training, simulators, ground vehicles etc etc as it is the first time this product has been sold to India. Any follow-on deals will give a true picture of how much India is paying for each C-17 as the majority of the setting-up costs are one-offs.

 

[IND151]

Another 2 are expected in the next 6 weeks, i really admire the Americans , they do deliver on time if not before.

yes, its really admirable and keeping deadline is the matter where Russians are not really good, but they have their reasons off coarse

 

[sancho]

The true unit cost is closer to $200mn.

Fly away, the system cost we pay is $410 millions per unit and that is highly expensive for a country that don't project it's power to strategic ranges.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Fly away, the system cost we pay is $410 millions per unit and that is highly expensive for a country that don't project it's power to strategic ranges.

Are you sure? This is almost double what the USAF has been paying in the past for C-17s. This figure must include training,spares, setting up of infra etc etc


The entire deal was $4.1BN so simply dividing this by 10 is not going to give you unit cost as this figure factors in all of the above (spares, training etc).


Any follow-on orders over and above this intial 10 will show the true unit cost India is paying for C-17s as the start up costs won't be factored in.

 

[sancho]

Are you sure? This is almost double what the USAF has been paying in the past for C-17s. This figure must include training,spares, setting up of infra etc etc


The entire deal was $4.1BN so simply dividing this by 10 is not going to give you unit cost as this figure factors in all of the above (spares, training etc).


Any follow-on orders over and above this intial 10 will show the true unit cost India is paying for C-17s as the start up costs won't be factored in.

Which is logical, because the US already paid the development cost, they so pays only the fly away cost and some for support. We instead are an export customer and will pay clearly more, btw the $410 million was actually a surprisingly cheap price and might have political reasons, because Boeing initially asked for $580 million and when you look at the costs of other C17 operators, which sometimes were around $600 to 700 millions per unit, you get an idea why there are so less countries that have it.
Btw, follow orders will come at the same costs, so $410 millions again each unit!

 

[Gessler]

Which is logical, because the US already paid the development cost, they so pays only the fly away cost and some for support. We instead are an export customer and will pay clearly more, btw the $410 million was actually a surprisingly cheap price and might have political reasons, because Boeing initially asked for $580 million and when you look at the costs of other C17 operators, which sometimes were around $600 to 700 millions per unit, you get an idea why there are so less countries that have it.
Btw, follow orders will come at the same costs, so $410 millions again each unit!

$600-700 millions for a single C17? Which countries were those?

That's more than the entire 2013 budget for Pak Navy!

 

[Dillinger]

EDITED SORRY

 

[Dillinger]

$600-700 millions for a single C17? Which countries were those?

That's more than the entire 2013 budget for Pak Navy!

Brother, 10 of these and 6+6 (dunno about the +6, had read it somewhere but last I checked we were operating only 6, @Abingdonboy and @sancho- confirm or refute please) Hercules will boost our airlift capacity tremendously..with an eye towards the Sino Indian border where the lack of infrastructure makes it difficult to introduce fresh troops..in fact specifically for that AND IF the MTA goes through then the projected 30-40 of those by the next decade will make us easily the most capable force in Asia when it comes to air-lifting troops and logistical supplies.

Add to that these babies are coming in with performance based maintenance..as in it binds Boeing to ensure that some 85% of the C-17 fleet is always available and ready for operations. Boeing will position spares and maintenance personnel for this, drawing not just on depots in the US, but on a “virtual fleet” that includes the six other forces that operate the C-17.

SO MAKE A HAPPY FACE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE ROI HERE WILL BE IMMENSE..BE A GOOD BANIYA!