Philippines' Rodrigo Duterte threatens to leave UN

[Pinoy]

 

[Pinoy]

Duterte to rights groups: Choose between safety, criminals' lives
August 24, 2016

MANILA, Philippines — The comfort and safety of the population? Or the lives of criminals?

President Rodrigo Duterte on Wednesday asked human rights advocates to choose between the two as he justified his relentless war against drugs, which has been criticized for supposedly encouraging extrajudicial killings.

In a speech delivered at Camp Capinpin in Tanay, Rizal, Duterte said his critics are talking "nonsense" while security forces are risking their lives to protect the country from drugs.

"Nothing is free in this life. There's always a price to pay. You choose: Is it the comfort and safety of the population? Or the lives of criminals?" the president said.

"When you face these human rights advocates, their mouths and heads inflate and they talk nonsense. We are supposed to protect the integrity of our republic and the safety of the citizens there," he continued.

"We are 104 million (people). You give me a shit about—how many?—1,600 being killed there? You're not even sure how many of them died in encounters, how many committed suicide and how many were killed by those who were angry with them," he added.

Duterte said security forces are also suffering casualties in the war against narcotics. He claimed that an average of two policemen die everyday in anti-drug operations.

"You work your *** to death, staking your life there, and then this will happen?" the chief executive said.

"These people just want to complain. I take full responsibility. Do your work… If you think there is a crime, shabu and if you have to shoot them, then shoot them. Just tell the truth," he added.

Duterte also shrugged off the Commission on Human Rights' (CHR) claim that an international court may investigate the killings in the country.

"Bugok 'yan (They are stupid). They have lawyers who don't have brains," the president said.

"You know genocide is when you do something similar to what is being done in Africa. You bomb with wanton abandon and kill people with no reason at all, you massacre women, you burn women for refusing to have sex," he added.

Duterte said there is no wanton killing of civilians in the country. He also hinted that drug personalities may be killing each other as operatives have planted intrigues within syndicates.

The president also disputed claims that his campaign against drugs are targeting only the poor.

"Don't give me a drama that you are poor. Rich or poor, I don't give a sh*t," he said.

Duterte said many of the drug personalities are poor because there is a target market for narcotics in their area. He added that the big-time drug lords are operating from abroad and only their lieutenants are in the country.

On Wednesday, human rights group Amnesty International reminded the Philippine government that extrajudicial execution is a crime under international law.

 

[Zsari]

Funny that you do not understand that the map is supposed to show GENERAL information.

https://amti.csis.org/atlas/

Not a lot of arrows there, so try to think a little.

Lots of map still no arrow to Philippines. Do you what that mean?

 

[gambit]

Lots of map still no arrow to Philippines. Do you what that mean?

My apologies. The Philippines is completely independent since there are no map arrows showing trade routes.

 

[alaungphaya]

Yup.

Too many leaders of countries are not working for their national interests but for Western interests.

The Western thugs wants puppets installed that will serve Western interests. They could care less about everyone else.

Duterte is too independent for the Western powers. They will use their NGOs to overthrow Duterte.

There's a difference between a liberal western puppet and a fascist who uses death squads to keep the peace. Drugs dealers maybe criminals but they are people too. They should be dealt with civility and not gunned down in the street. Even Hitler used to make the trains run on time as they say.

@nufix @pr1v4t33r @Reashot Xigwin @MarveL

and they said Indonesian justice system is amoral and abusing human rights because executing drug dealer through proper channel by conducts trials and let the the convictee to defends themselves as part of their rights

this duterte clowns is much worse than what i can predict surely, like Soeharto in the making

@MarkusS @Joe Shearer @Nilgiri




terror by states is much like a dictator propaganda, Indonesia had experience those kind of experiences in the past. And how u know and verify if the ones u shoot at in the alley of streets is a valid target?

You say that but gunning down Chinese and communists is OK?

 

[Nilgiri]

Good man, and power to him.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Philippine President Duterte is a leader, no doubt. He shown his unorthodox leadership against all opposition and the Filipino just love him. No matter what others may say about him, he has choose a inclandestine path to make his nation safe and free from crime in view of the rampant corruptions, etc.

In comparison to says India's Modi, who wanted to be popular and plan to put India into the map of the forefront nations but refuses to act on what is right e.g. curbing or reducing India overpopulation for one, etc. As least Philippines is set in motion unlike sedentary India which is forever talking or more talking.

 

[Nike]

@madokafc obviously you don't know what you're saying. You can throw all rubbish to Duterte including your tolilet bowl but for us he is a no nonsense president.

Well almost all anti-Duterte are seeking refuge to due process of law and to human rights. However, they forgot that good and law abiding Filipino citizens also have human rights to live free from danger of being victims by criminals. If they are indeed innocent. Show some proof or witness first. The burden of proof should be on the accuser. Our people also have rights to protect their children from harm caused by dangerous drugs. Extra-judicial killings against criminals particularly those in drugs syndicate is a must which cannot be resolved by procedural due process of law alone.

Sadly there are also narco government officials that are involved and traitors to our country... selling the welfare of the Filipino children to the drug syndicate. If they tend to fight then it should be shoot to kill. If our President do not do something drastic to address this drug menace that could turn our children into zombies. I know it's bloody BUT we are on the right track to cleanse our society of the evil of drugs.

This is for the sake of our beloved country. It is a painful decision but it must be done hence, majority of our people support the president.

those hypocrisy POV, when ur country against death penalty for ur citizen in Indonesia even the proof is clear and loud and the trial is so open, meanwhile u support this non sense extra judicial killings against ur own people and let ur people dying like stray dog at streets...

 

[Nilgiri]

but refuses to act on what is right e.g. curbing or reducing India overpopulation for one, etc.

Why bring in Modi and India?

Have you even looked at India population growth rate ?

Lets compare with even philippines:

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.GROW?locations=IN-PH

And what about fertility rate?:

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=IN-PH

Overall its 2.43 for India...and going to reach 2.1 (if you even know why this number is significant) quite soon (about 6 years away somewhere around 2022 seeing that its dropping by 0.04 a year roughly)

Parts of India are now reaching fertility rates well below replacement (rates as low as 1.5) that its actually a problem in many areas to find labour.

India population is gonna peak at 1.4 - 1.5 billion people and then reduce from there.

Overpopulation of the world is going to come mostly from African countries which grow at higher than 2, 3% even annuall with very high fertility rates.

Main issue in India is to educate and train its people better....which is what Modi is focusing on (but what does that matter to a dullard like you who doesn't even know what the world demographic situation is)?

Keep your business out of discussing India if you dont know the facts, esp when Duterte is saying this to your ilk:

https://defence.pk/threads/duterte-tells-china-kung-kayo-pumasok-dito-it-will-be-bloody.445891/

 

[Nike]

There's a difference between a liberal western puppet and a fascist who uses death squads to keep the peace. Drugs dealers maybe criminals but they are people too. They should be dealt with civility and not gunned down in the street. Even Hitler used to make the trains run on time as they say.



You say that but gunning down Chinese and communists is OK?

look at the context, the last time Indonesia as a country gunning down commies is at the height of cold war era after failed coup of them in 65, and banning China came after the debacles because the real supports of PKC for PKI. Thats more than 50 years ago!!

 

[Economic superpower]

There's a difference between a liberal western puppet and a fascist who uses death squads to keep the peace. Drugs dealers maybe criminals but they are people too. They should be dealt with civility and not gunned down in the street. Even Hitler used to make the trains run on time as they say.



You say that but gunning down Chinese and communists is OK?

Drug dealers and their entire families should be killed. Find them, kill them. No need to arrest them and waste prison space.

They are not humans as far as I'm concerned.

Drug dealers destroy entire countries. Just look how gangs and drug cartels have destroyed many Latin American countries.

Duterte should go all out to eliminate these drug dealing subhumans.

 

[Nilgiri]

Drug dealers and their entire families should be killed. Find them, kill them. No need to arrest them and waste prison space.

They are not humans as far as I'm concerned.

Drug dealers destroy entire countries. Just look how gangs and drug cartels have destroyed many Latin American countries.

Duterte should go all out to eliminate these drug dealing subhumans.

Entire families? Thats going overboard don't you think?

BTW have you watched the TV series narcos? I'd recommend it.

 

[Economic superpower]

Extrajudicial?

I understand US drone murders in North Africa, Pakistan and elsewhere as extrajudicial killings, under international law. But, PH is running a tough campaign against crime cartels on its own soils being painted as “extrajudicial killings?"

That's what one gets from the US foreign policy when one cozies up to the US regime.

I wonder how is it different from Rudy Giuliani's NY clean-up, which has since been hailed by the (part of the-non-liberal) US regime media as a success story.

US tests the endurance of PH sovereignty. If the PH gives in at one point, the US will continue to work with the PH as a de facto vassal state.

If PH does not give in, it will be on the receiving end of US regime media and various official-non official institutions.

If I were Pres. Duterte, I would pay special attention to US-led NGOs.

@Economic superpower

Duterte seems to be a Filipino patriot. The US finds him difficult to control.

He doesn't speak in a politically correct way, but he gets things done.

He wants to clean up the drug problem.

If I was Duterte, I would get rid of ALL Americans NGOs immediately. They will already be plotting to overthrow Duterte just like their anti-government activities in Russia, Ukraine, China, Hong Kong, Latin America, Middle East.

China should try to have a good relationship with Duterte. This is an opportunity for both countries.

Entire families? Thats going overboard don't you think?

BTW have you watched the TV series narcos? I'd recommend it.

It is extreme, but you have to go extreme to deter these criminals. They might not care about their own lives, but many consider the lives of their families.

Drug dealers must face the ultimate consequence. You do this to a few of them and it will deter 80-90% of them. There will always be the 10-20% that defy.

 

[TaiShang]

Duterte seems to be a Filipino patriot. The US finds him difficult to control.

He doesn't speak in a politically correct way, but he gets things done.

He wants to clean up the drug problem.

If I was Duterte, I would get rid of ALL Americans NGOs immediately. They will already be plotting to overthrow Duterte just like their anti-government activities in Russia, Ukraine, China, Hong Kong, Latin America, Middle East.

China should try to have a good relationship with Duterte. This is an opportunity for both countries.

That's probably why he is being demonized by the Western media, currently.

It is not that US regime cares about some drug dealers that might in fact be innocent. If it were so, they would equally demonize the head chopping Saudi regime.

They began to hate and demonize Duterte because he showed some inclinations toward independent and sovereign policy making.

And I am telling this outside the context of PH-CN relations.

 

[Cossack25A1]

China should try to have a good relationship with Duterte. This is an opportunity for both countries.

And I bet that you want all anti-China Filipinos be killed right?