Philippines considers two-way sea talks with China

[TaiShang]

The discussion is based on condition that "Nine Dashed Claim" is meaningless following the decision of international court.

At every press release, the Arbitral Court as well as the Philippines itself said the Award, in what form it may came, will not have any bearing/impact whatsoever on the question of sovereignty in the SCS. Historical rights and nine-dash line are related to sovereignty, so, the Award will have no bearing on these two, either.

What the Court can do at most is to decide whether, technically, without commenting on who own what, those 8 or 9 sea features brought up by the Philippines are rocks/reefs or islands.

Then, based on this, the Court will decide whether Philippines' complaints of China's activities in its "so-called" continental shelf and EEZ are a violation of the Convention or not.

That's all. No decision on delimitation or on sovereignty. And you should read how many exceptions and conditions the Court has attached to each one of the 15 Submissions of the Philippines.

The Philippines already stands on a very weak ground and the Court has for long undermined its own position by extremely limiting the scope of the Award.

@xunzi

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@Nihonjin1051 , I am glad to see bilateral mechanism are being referred to; that's the way to go. Just as China's land border agreements did not require (and does not require) any third party and all settled (except one or two) peacefully so far, there is no reason why we would not solve the maritime border issues bilaterally, or, through a regional (our own Asian) setting.

ASEAN-China DOC was a viable platform but I guess Manila has weakened it by its unilateral arbitration.

 

[Zero_wing]

I feel pity for a pinoy. There is nothing funny about this. LOL


We always said bilateral negotiation is the best option and that we were right all along.

Wow your really blind think about it we give you time

At every press release, the Arbitral Court as well as the Philippines itself said the Award, in what form it may came, will not have any bearing/impact whatsoever on the question of sovereignty in the SCS. Historical rights and nine-dash line are related to sovereignty, so, the Award will have no bearing on these two, either.

What the Court can do at most is to decide whether, technically, without commenting on who own what, those 8 or 9 sea features brought up by the Philippines are rocks/reefs or islands.

Then, based on this, the Court will decide whether Philippines' complaints of China's activities in its "so-called" continental shelf and EEZ are a violation of the Convention or not.

That's all. No decision on delimitation or on sovereignty. And you should read how many exceptions and conditions the Court has attached to each one of the 15 Submissions of the Philippines.

The Philippines already stands on a very weak ground and the Court has for long undermined its own position by extremely limiting the scope of the Award.

@xunzi

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@Nihonjin1051 , I am glad to see bilateral mechanism are being referred to; that's the way to go. Just as China's land border agreements did not require (and does not require) any third party and all settled (except one or two) peacefully so far, there is no reason why we would not solve the maritime border issues bilaterally, or, through a regional (our own Asian) setting.

ASEAN-China DOC was a viable platform but I guess Manila has weakened it by its unilateral arbitration.

Other blind drone

 

[Viva_Viet]

Lets look back the first time CN-PH discussing abt "sea talk" in 2004 and VN join later in 2005.
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South China Sea: Trilateral Exploration and Territorial Claims
Analysis
MARCH 15, 2005 | 22:27 GMT
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State-run oil companies from China, the Philippines and Vietnam have signed an agreement to jointly conduct a seismic survey in the South China Sea. Largely orchestrated by Manila, the agreement could result in the first systematic survey of energy potential in the area conducted exclusively by claimant countries. Although the deal appears to promise peaceful exploration, it fails to address sovereignty disputes over the Spratly Islands and their offshore regions — disputes that could become much more heated should the test have promising results.

Analysis
China National Offshore Oil Corp., Philippine National Oil Corp. and PetroVietnam — all state-run firms — said March 14 they have agreed to conduct joint seismic surveys of the South China Sea. Each country will contribute $5 million to the $15 million initial cost of the three-year project.

The agreement could lead to the first systematic seismic survey of the South China Sea by countries that all have territorial claims to the Spratly Islands and their offshore regions. It also reveals Manila as a more proactive presence in regional politics, as it apparently brought China and Vietnam into the project. The deal, however, fails to address the territorial disputes — an omission that will come back to haunt Manila, Beijing and Hanoi should the surveys reveal energy resources in the region.
South China Sea: Trilateral Exploration and Territorial Claims | Stratfor