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Philippines 48 Fighter Jets, 6 Submarines, Anti-ship cruise missiles: CNAS

You are basing on the fact that the Filipino are after new jet. F-16, but there are talks with US, Netherland, and even singapre to acquire their second hand jet with equipment package and they will be half of what a new jet cost. With Philippine already servicing F-5 in the past, the upgrade from F-5 and F-16 is not as much from starting from scratch. There are also deals drawing from Singapore to get their F-16 or even F-15 second hand when the Singaporean got their F-35, also another deal have been discussed a few months back to have 50 Australian F-18A in practically free offer after the Aussie retire those airframe, i don't know how's the deal fared. Not to mention Philippine could look at USAF ex-F16 for a cheap start.

There are also way to get new arms on cheap too. You can have a loan, on credit, or even lease/buy option or a mix of buy some, lease some. Money is not really an issue here actually.

I understand that there are many ways to get money, I was just making a rough estimation based on Philippine's own financial capability because helps and assistance from foreign countries are depended on the situation of Philippine itself and its importance to the foreign allies, make them can't be depended. My estimation is based on the possibility that Philippine should finance all of them without loans and assistance from other countries. And yes, money is really an issue here, if Filipino wanted to throw themselves into an armed conflict by expanding their muscles, the amount of money would become the main factor to determine how long they're going to last.
 
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I understand that there are many ways to get money, I was just making a rough estimation based on Philippine's own financial capability because helps and assistance from foreign countries are depended on the situation of Philippine itself and its importance to the foreign allies, make them can't be depended. My estimation is based on the possibility that Philippine should finance all of them without loans and assistance from other countries. And yes, money is really an issue here, if Filipino wanted to throw themselves into an armed conflict by expanding their muscles, the amount of money would become the main factor to determine how long they're going to last.

I understand your point, it take money to defend youselve. But there are way you can defend yourselve with absolutely nothing to start with and there are way to defend yourselve by larvish spending. It's all depend on how much money you get and how much money you can afford.

For the defend budget, Philippine are destined to just able to afford a "Defensive force" which depend on less Fighter aircraft and more Surface to Air Missile. However, does that mean they cannot get 48 F-16 for less than 2 billions packaged? No, they do. How they spend their money is their business, and if they really want 48 F-16 but got nothing to start, they can too. The country have to follow what their budget allowed. And have them spend wisely accordingly, for a small budget, there are still way to get top-notch for next to nothing price especially today arms market is not a 2 horse race anymore, there are numerous option you can consider, Country like US and Russia cannot afford to make other for their deals anymore, they should make deals to the other country, not the otherway around.

Money is important? Yes, but is money an issue for getting gear? No.
 
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Russia would not sell anything to any US allies.

You wish. :rolleyes:

Russia is desperate to sell Su-35 to China, knowing the risks involved of copying it's AESA radar and engine. This speaks about Russian desperation to gain overseas market.

Going by that logic, Russia shouldn't sell anything to India too. Isn't?
 
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You wish. :rolleyes:

Russia is desperate to sell Su-35 to China, knowing the risks involved of copying it's AESA radar and engine. This speaks about Russian desperation to gain overseas market.

Going by that logic, Russia shouldn't sell anything to India too. Isn't?


IsIndia a US Allie?
 
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So What is India doing South China sea? Are they going to save the Philippines and ally US? It can be a great strategic change in this region. Not to mention, Putin will find it really annoying and will support China. Whom is Pakistan supporting? Will Pakistan choose India or China?
 
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New Navy Chief Eyes ‘Desired Force Mix’ to Defend Territorial Waters

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President Benigno Aquino III faces the past and the present of the Navy leadership: incoming Navy chief Vice Adm. Jose Luis Alano, and the outgoing chief, Alexander Pama (R), who was at the Navy's helm in one of the most critical periods in the country's maritime history, especially with the Panatag Shoal standoff with China earlier this year. MALACANANG PHOTO BUREAU

MANILA, Philippines - Newly-installed Navy flag officer in command Vice Admiral Jose Luis Alano wants to retire the country's old and "antiquated" ships and replace them with new ones to better protect the country's territorial waters.


Alano, in his speech at the turnover ceremonies on Wednesday, said these old ships were deemed "excess baggage" for the country's naval force and he vowed to "rationalize current operational assets, review the modernization program, taking a deliberate look at the phase-in and phase-out scheme."

Alano replaced Vice Admiral Alexander Pama.

Alano, who once served as the head of the country's Navy Fleet, said he would recommend equipment that would make the Navy a "relevant" force in defending the country's territory, amid the ongoing dispute with China over islands in the West Philippine Sea.

"I come at an opportune time, when we are fleeting up with new capabilities like WHECs (weather high endurance cutters), frigates, naval helicopters, MPACs (multi-purpose attack crafts), AAVs (amphibious assault vehicles), as well as individual Marine and special warfare combat equipment," he said.

Alano also vowed to review the country's "active archipelagic defense" strategy with an eye at achieving the Fleet's "desired force mix."

According to an article published on Phil Fleet last April, the Fleet's "desired force mix" consists of six frigates for anti-air warfare, 12 corvettes for anti-submarine warfare, 18 offshore patrol vessels, three submarines, three anti-mine vessels, four sealift vessels, 18 landing craft utility vessels, three logistics ships, 12 coastal interdiction patrol boats, 30 patrol gunboats and 42 multi-purpose assault crafts.

President Benigno Aquino III said the recent signing of the New AFP Modernization Act would give the military P75 million in the next five years to procure much-needed land, air and sea assets.

"Dapat lang na maghanda na ang ating Pambansang Tanggulan sa pagdagsa ng ating mga bagong truck, eroplano, mga dekalibreng armas, at iba pang modernong kagamitan para sa buong kasundaluhan (the Armed Forces should be prepared for the arrival of new trucks, airplanes, firearms, and other modern equipment for the entire military)," Aquino said in his speech.

Aquino also said that in just over a year, his administration was able to put in P28 billion for the AFP, allowing the military to procure two Hamilton class cutters (BRP Gregorio del Pilar and BRP Ramon Alcaraz) and the arrival of BRP Tagbanua, the first Filipino-made landing craft utility.


Can any Pinoys tell me anything about this "Desired Force Mix" policy?
 
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