Peshawar Massacre - TTP kills hundreds of school kids (Avoid graphic pics/vids)

[FaujHistorian]

Oh look, another Utopian Secular-Liberal.

The biggest utopia (read Hell on earth) is region that is ruled by Islamo-fascists.

 

[Screambowl]

The biggest utopia (read Hell on earth) is region that is ruled by Islamo-fascists.

Just imagine, Ash-Shu'ara played in the back ground and some fanatic is making a video of a beheading. This is what they do. This is what brutal is. Man this needs to be stopped. At least give them message, anywhere but if you come to subcontinent, that will be their last adventure.

 

[coffee_cup]

Indian posters must know that its not just JuD or LeT that gets bails and suspended sentence reliefs but alxo our mass murders by judicary they keep accusing ISI although its our talibanized judiciary

And they should also know that our judiciary is a hugggeeee fan of their indian counterparts.
So I would say, acquitting mass murderer Mody and allowing him to become PM has done us no favor.
It has put those in Pak, who want to see those animal Mullah jihadis hanged, on the back foot.

 

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[Kashmiri Nationalist]

The biggest utopia (read Hell on earth) is region that is ruled by Islamo-fascists.

The biggest "utopia" that ever existed was the Soviet Union.

Are you going to actually respond with a coherent, logical argument or just make bullshit one liners?

 

[Winchester]

This picture just breaks your heart

 

[Kashmiri Nationalist]

Stalin, Hitler, Mao, were ambitious people that is all I can say.

Mullah is good similar way a Pandit is good. But only then when they have thirst of knowledge but not power.

Where as TTP, LeT, JeM, etc all are product of covert policies of US and Pakistan towards Soviets.

They would have met their end like LTTE, but due to interest of Pakistan in using them covertly in Kashmir is the main cause that they are still existing. But now due to lots of resource, even if Pakistan drops them, they can survive. LTTE cannot revive but TTP can. You know the reason.

Fragments of Islam is only involved for securing the funds , recruitment process and during training nothing else. Their main agenda is political.

That's why I said, start from Quran and finish there, just to know what is written there. You cannot live the way people used live in 2nd century AD in Arab, or ride horse and carry a sword or wear naqab all the time. It's a new age.


So he has secured at least 50,000 votes. Shame, he has become a dirty politician.

"Stalin, Hitler, Mao, were ambitious people that is all I can say". So are Bin Laden, Baghdadi and Fazlullah.

The origins of these organisations has little to do with whether or not Islam is good for the modern world.

The interest of Pakistan using them covertly is is a-religious; it has nothing to do with Islam. The United States has backed non-State actors too, and has a long history of it. I don't see you calling Obama a theocrat.

Uhm, ok. So these people have nothing actually to do with Islam. We agree on something then.

This is a gross misconstruement of Islam, and just shows both your ignorance of the religion and your arrogance in favour of your chosen idealogy. Islam doesn't have anything against the use of automobiles or the usage of firearms in wars, that's just a crass insult. It's funny that you mention the niqaab (the attacks on modernity that went before it were just to skew the stage to show it as something medieval), your actual attack is on Islamic morals. To this I say this to you: who are you and me to tell a woman what to wear? Is this not a "new age" value?

 

[gubbi]

Let's forget about humanity and religion then. Lets talk pragmatism. It would be a gross misunderstanding to think that we are fighting a war against a group of people, we are in fact at war with an ideology, a mental state and a modus operandi and as such we must fight it with an ideology and a code of conduct which is it's antitheses. If we start killing everything in sight, telecast it on TV, in public squares and in everyone's home we will be satisfying our anger but will be shaping a Pakistan for the future generations in which barbarism and revenge meted out of anger will be just as normal as say, the killing of non-Muslims after meagre Muslim sentiment. Another heavy stone in a sinking boat. We need to make sure that we come out as the opposite of what the Taliban are, if not then we will have lost having still killed all the terrorists. Where will we stand with our claimed moral high ground then? Of what end will this war be then for? The Taliban then will live for ever. The time to lay the foundations of justice, civility and civil thought in this country is now. Make this amply clear that there is no one here preaching mercy, we are advocating justice. We have to be precise, swift and terrifyingly clinical when retaliating to this murder of our children, something which will make our enemies soil their pants.

ps: The wants of this emotionally charged society is one of the major reasons for the fubar situation we see right now. These very same emotional people, only a few years ago, wanted Pakistan to fight on behest of their 'Muslim brothers' i.e. the Taliban.

Your post definitely deserves a +ve rating. If I could, I would give you one! Excellent post.
Pragmatism is the need of the hour. Any reckless kneejerk reaction by the state would only be playing into Taliban's hands and their fvcked up ideology. That stupid ideology can only be defeated with a good one. I totally agree with what you have said and I believe the authorities have taken this into consideration whilst formulating the future course of action.
That being said, for now, there definitely needs to be some show of force, just to play to the gallery considering the charged up atmosphere your nation is facing in the aftermath of this tragedy.

 

[Screambowl]

"Stalin, Hitler, Mao, were ambitious people that is all I can say". So are Bin Laden, Baghdadi and Fazlullah.

The origins of these organisations has little to do with whether or not Islam is good for the modern world.

The interest of Pakistan using them covertly is is a-religious; it has nothing to do with Islam. The United States has backed non-State actors too, and has a long history of it. I don't see you calling Obama a theocrat.

Uhm, ok. So these people have nothing actually to do with Islam. We agree on something then.

This is a gross misconstruement of Islam, and just shows both your ignorance of the religion and your arrogance in favour of your chosen idealogy. Islam doesn't have anything against the use of automobiles or the usage of firearms in wars, that's just a crass insult. It's funny that you mention the niqaab (the attacks on modernity that went before it were just to skew the stage to show it as something medieval), your actual attack is on Islamic morals. To this I say this to you: who are you and me to tell a woman what to wear? Is this not a "new age" value?

Yes they are ambitious. It is a power play. Who denies that?

What do you have to say regarding beheading in front of Flag where verses from Quran are written? It is obviously not Islam, but in a larger dimension, it is similar to ideology of Tehmiya and Wahab. I am no where saying Islam is the culprit. But emotional black mail through Islam, recruitment, training and brainwashing, is what needs to be checked. What do they exactly preach that people become so barbarian and kill kids.

 

[SQ8]

Heard of one mother who upon hearing about the bombing ran barefoot from her house a km away to the school.. only to find out that they might be in hospital.. where she ran another few kms barefoot where she found that all three of them were murdered.

 

[VCheng]

Heard of one mother who upon hearing about the bombing ran barefoot from her house a km away to the school.. only to find out that they might be in hospital.. where she ran another few kms barefoot where she found that all three of them were murdered.

Simply heartbreaking. I have no words to express my anguish.

 

[ResurgentIran]

My deepest and most sincere condolences to Pakistan and especially to the families of the deceased ones. May you recover well from this heinous tragedy.

 

[angelandsoul]

ISLAMABAD: It is revealed through a letter obtained by ARY News that the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) government was warned in advance about the Peshawar school attack, ARY News reported on Monday.

The provincial government led by PTI was warned three months before the deadly Peshawar school attack which resulted in killing of 149 people on December 16.

The letter obtained by ARY News is dated August 28, 2014 and clearly warns government about attack on Army Public School and the terrorist aim to target children.

The letter was written by National Counter terrorism Authority and warned law enforcement agencies about the attack which jolted the whole nation.

 

[Adecypher]

Shift of US policy towards Afghan Taliban’s Supreme Leader…

US may not target Mullah Omar after this year

Anwar Iqbal

Published about 23 hours ago

WASHINGTON: The United States has said that after Jan 2, US forces in Afghanistan will not target Mullah Omar and other Taliban leaders unless they posed a direct threat to the US.

“Being a member of the Taliban doesn’t mean that the United States is going to prosecute operations against you for that reason alone,” Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby told a recent news briefing in Washington.

But he also drew a line between combatant and non-combatant Taliban, saying that those who continued to fight would not be spared.

“We’ve also concurred that a member of the Taliban who undertakes missions against us or our Afghan partners — by that act alone, renders himself vulnerable and liable to US action,” Rear Admiral Kirby said.

In his year-end news conference on Friday, President Barack Obama assured the American nation that he would fulfil his pledge to end the US-led war in Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

“And in less than two weeks, after more than 13 years, our combat mission in Afghanistan will be over,” he said.

President Obama, however, has authorised this force to fight the militants if they posed a direct threat to them or caused a major threat to official Afghan forces.

At the Pentagon briefing, journalists asked Mr Kirby to further explain the policy and also asked him if US forces would continue to pursue Taliban leader Mullah Omar after 2014 as well, as they did in the past.

Mullah Omar was Afghanistan’s head of state from 1996 until the US forced him from power in 2001. He has been on the State Department’s Rewards for Justice programme since Oct 2001, for harbouring Osama bin Laden and other terrorists. The reward for his capture is $10 million.

“Is Mullah and the other people on this list, are they no longer liable for their past acts in Afghanistan?” a journalist asked.

“I don’t know if I can answer that question. As the recognised leader of the Taliban to the degree the Taliban still poses a threat or poses a threat to us or to our allies, they will continue to be prosecuted by US military operations,” Admiral Kirby said. “I can’t really make it any more simpler than that.”

The Pentagon spokesman explained that from January 2nd, the US policy in Afghanistan would change.

But “what changes fundamentally, though, is (that) … on January 2nd, just by being a member of the Taliban doesn’t make you an automatic target,” he explained.

“So, beginning January 2nd, it will be up to the Afghans to go after someone like a Mullah Omar?” asked a journalist.

“That’s correct, unless there is a direct threat that’s posed,” Mr Kirby said.

Published in Dawn, December 22th, 2014

 

[krash]

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Our judges are coward, corrupt and incompetent, Lahore high court suspended hanging of five attackers, Let army deal with hanging and please hang our incompetent judges also, we don't need them, the mess we are in is also due to our judiciary and they have part in it..

Reportedly the Government has challenged this.

That being said, for now, there definitely needs to be some show of force, just to play to the gallery considering the charged up atmosphere your nation is facing in the aftermath of this tragedy.

Of course. Like I said it must be clinical. I would love flaying or burning the culprits alive but it has to be behind closed doors, don't let the "society" get exposed to it.