Perhaps India should Look for Ways it can be a Part of CPEC

[my2cents]

Wagha and kabul is never going to work. it can be linked only stuff comming from china and russia for indian export they sud find other ways. chabahar is good for india to link kabul and moscow.

Forget it then. It will not work for us. This has to be a two way street or nothing.

Sir actually our people are sheeple...they have 128 kbit memories and that too volatile ones... or some of them are just fools ... India did not accept the existence of Pakistan from day one of its creation and Hindu can't get past that even if the Kashmir issue gets solved, that basic obsession in their genes will keep causing problems for both the nations. The best way is to end all sorts of relations, build 10 m high concrete wall all along the border except LOC, closed down Wagah call our ambassadors home and throw theirs out...total no communication, block all sorts of transmissions. Just focus on our relations with China, Russia, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan (disinfected), Middle East, Europe, Far East, Africa...I mean the world is too big...just neglect them but keep your guns and missile pointed and ready to fire in case of any escalation for eastern side. Through China we can access far east.. Put india into its right spot.

Why do you bother to do all that?? Just go live on Mars. You will have no neighbours.

 

[Zaahir]

in a ideal world where there is no guns no RSS bajrandal terrorist Prime minister of india Mody even then its a maybe
our land our rules .. Pakistan maybe allow india to import stuff from russia and china but for import chabahar is indias good investment from centeral asia and moscow.
Kashmir is biggest hurdle till its solved india is not trustworthy.

CPEC..road from Gwadar to Kashgar. A few coal plants thrown in here and there. India already has trading routes with China and the CPEC doesn't offer a direct route to Russia. CPEC is not an economical project. Its a Geo strategic political act by China. There is nothing Pakistan can export to China that it doesn't do already and vice versa.
As regards to other countries using the route...The industrial centers of China are in the eastern part and the land route is not economically feasible to the eastern half. The only viable export is oil export from the middle east to China via Pakistan. The pipelines are not in place yet (The pipelines need to transfer the oil to eastern China where the consumption is) and oil is not transported in trucks.

All these years, any country wanting to use this land route could had the option to use the Karachi port. Nothing changes by adding Gwadar to the mix and a few more raods here and there.

Therefore, the bottom line is- India has nothing to gain from this CPEC and no-one absolutely no-one in India is least interested in having anything to do with it. Of course, India wants to put spanner in the works because its a strategic challenge to her.

 

[war&peace]

Just go live on Mars. You will have no neighbours.

We are not the one's sending mars landers

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

CPEC..road from Gwadar to Kashgar. A few coal plants thrown in here and there. India already has trading routes with China and the CPEC doesn't offer a direct route to Russia. CPEC is not an economical project. Its a Geo strategic political act by China. There is nothing Pakistan can export to China that it doesn't do already and vice versa.
As regards to other countries using the route...The industrial centers of China are in the eastern part and the land route is not economically feasible to the eastern half. The only viable export is oil export from the middle east to China via Pakistan. The pipelines are not in place yet (The pipelines need to transfer the oil to eastern China where the consumption is) and oil is not transported in trucks.

All these years, any country wanting to use this land route could had the option to use the Karachi port. Nothing changes by adding Gwadar to the mix and a few more raods here and there.

Therefore, the bottom line is- India has nothing to gain from this CPEC and no-one absolutely no-one in India is least interested in having anything to do with it. Of course, India wants to put spanner in the works because its a strategic challenge to her.

one sentence for you in urdu
"Mehnat ker hasad na ker"

 

[CHINA83NEWS]

Why not? If any thing that can bring mutual profit, then both India and Pakistan should keep the option in future...

As a close neighbor of China is very don't understand why so hate the same blood relationship of the two countries.

 

[Storm Force]

India has nothing to gain from Cpec.

India key trade is with USA UAE and Europe and China and south east Asia.

Those central Asian states are too small and insignificant for Indian trade.

Regarding Indian energy needs there are huge deals in place for India Iranian pipelines and a new Indian port in iran

Cpec key drive is for China to transport it's energy to China via shorter routes.

India and its merchant navy and resources are already in the door step of the gulf

 

[my2cents]

We are not the one's sending mars landers

No plans yet on a manned mission to Mars .

Well you friend China is planning a manned moon mission soon. You should book a ride in advance. At least they will provide a soft landing for your tush. Ours was a hard landing, unfortunately.

 

[khansaheeb]

Its not that simple.

Trading and investing in Pakistan is not an issue. India would be glad to do that but trading through a disputed territory would bring in legitimacy to Pakistan's case and would complicate the negotiations for India.

Here the ball is clearly in Pakistan's court to resolve the boundary issue with India. Until then India would keep opposing the route.

The solution is simple. Negotiate: demilitarisation of Kashmir, allow a free and independent Kashmir with only a native police force, with India and Pakistan guaranteeing joint security. India needs to learn from Chechnya that only a political settlement will enable peace, the fight for freedom always prevails. India is delaying the inevitable and the Kashmiris will win, but each day the cost rises in lives and money for both the Indians and the Kashmiris until that day.

 

[Wen Ling]

CPEC..road from Gwadar to Kashgar. A few coal plants thrown in here and there. India already has trading routes with China and the CPEC doesn't offer a direct route to Russia. CPEC is not an economical project. Its a Geo strategic political act by China. There is nothing Pakistan can export to China that it doesn't do already and vice versa.
As regards to other countries using the route...The industrial centers of China are in the eastern part and the land route is not economically feasible to the eastern half. The only viable export is oil export from the middle east to China via Pakistan. The pipelines are not in place yet (The pipelines need to transfer the oil to eastern China where the consumption is) and oil is not transported in trucks.

All these years, any country wanting to use this land route could had the option to use the Karachi port. Nothing changes by adding Gwadar to the mix and a few more raods here and there.

Therefore, the bottom line is- India has nothing to gain from this CPEC and no-one absolutely no-one in India is least interested in having anything to do with it. Of course, India wants to put spanner in the works because its a strategic challenge to her.

Gwadar is built as a new Shenzhen, not only a port.
If India need a route to Russia, just put another 46 billion dollars along the route on Pakistan and Afghanistan. I am quite sure both country will be really happy.
CPEC is designed by China to develop Western side of China and a gateway to Africa and Muslim world, Pakistan take the offer. Certainly it serves China's interest, but it also benefits any country has the similar purpose.
For example, Pakistan enjoyed to be the gateway, and want to develop industry along the route.
Iran think they can take benefit, so they join.
If India does not, then wait...
It is a simple logic.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

The mess in South Asia is caused by India itself. None of them are other people's business.
If it was not for your Neheru's Forward policy, there would be no 1962 war. then China will not be sided with Pakistan.
I have to repeat these sentences. After India get independent and set English as its language, its strategic thinking is almost the same as American/British. Every big power try to lower the tension in its direct neighborehood, only India try to make it as higher as possible. so good luck....
Whether you like it or not, whether India needs it or not, CPEC will be there, it is the top priority in China's national strategy. China is not USA, its policy will not change due to swap of the leadership, it plans up to 50 years. So you have to pray that China will collapse... or Pakistan reject the offer...

Just a load of drivel.

You started by preaching how India should build trust with neighbors. But when I told you what it takes to build trust with Pakistan, you go on a tangent about how the universe came into existence in 1962.

For the last time, India couldn't care less if you built CPEC all the way to Mars. India's only objection with it has to do with the part that passes through part of J&K that is (legitimately) claimed by India. Joining CPEC only legitimizes that illegal occupation of Kashmir by both Pakistan and China.

It is a no-brainer really.

@Topic, nobody seems to have the answer to my question. What purpose does CPEC serve for India, given Pakistan has already rejected provided transit access to Afghanistan already?

 

[JAGGA-J]

If Modi is ever allowed to become part of CPEC, rest assure they will scheme & destroy this unique strategic oeppertunity for Pakistan

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

As a close neighbor of China is very don't understand why so hate the same blood relationship of the two countries.

There is no blood relation with India , different people and DNA

 

[CHINA83NEWS]

Many Chinese people don't know India and Pakistan.We only know different religion.

 

[koolio]

No thanks, but India should never become part of CPEC, it has proved to be a sworn enemy, its leaving no stone unturned to destabilise Pakistan, through any means.

 

[Wen Ling]

Just a load of drivel.

You started by preaching how India should build trust with neighbors. But when I told you what it takes to build trust with Pakistan, you go on a tangent about how the universe came into existence in 1962.

For the last time, India couldn't care less if you built CPEC all the way to Mars. India's only objection with it has to do with the part that passes through part of J&K that is (legitimately) claimed by India. Joining CPEC only legitimizes that illegal occupation of Kashmir by both Pakistan and China.

It is a no-brainer really.

@Topic, nobody seems to have the answer to my question. What purpose does CPEC serve for India, given Pakistan has already rejected provided transit access to Afghanistan already?

you may launch a war and try...
in the end, that is what matters in the end in terms of territory. so good luck