People who lost their lives due to Police/Ranger brutality

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If our Military wants to be neutral.. lets assume it to be true for a moment.. highly unlikely.. they want to restart the system.. then why not do it in proper manner?

Why do they want to take out IK from the system? Give people choices.. and let them choose... they want to choose zardari , Nawaz or IK? Why not make it people's choice if they truly are neutral?

Had mil been neutral IK wouldn't have become the PM. IK is one of the many experiments by the mil, this one however has become one of the biggest. Have no sympathies with generals like Bajwa or politicians on rent like imran. Political prostitutes.

 

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Lol how is PDM holding on to power ? You think they are democratically installed? If Ik was installed, and then uninstalled.. who did that? And how did PDM come into power?

Its the institution of Army that is corrupt to core.. Bajwa and IK are individuals of the system.. so is Munir... so spare us your BS please.. People of Pakistan have no faith in Army and establishment.. unless they fix themselves, there is no point in blaming IK who only spent 3 years in power out of misery filled 75 years...before IK we were miserable and we still are.. will continue to be..

Munir is nt neutral.. it is clear as day.. if he was , people would see it and believe it by actions. So are you absolving Munir and Co of sins ? Continue with your hypocrisy

Yes PDM came into power politically. PTI resigned in both Punjab and KP. And was booted out by vonc.

Your second statement makes no sense. You claim army as an institution is corrupt but you have no shame supporting a person whose entire political party was set up by the mil using lotas.
Who himself is corrupt (the cases are in court) and anyone with half a brain should read those files and see on what grounds he was arrested by NAB.

you claim munir isn't neutral?

Didn't Imran cry and whine because he claimed only janwar are neutral? So what is it?

Munir should support ik into power like Bajwa to verify his credentials?

What about Mr Bandiyal and his wife? They neutral? The way Imran has been treated with kid gloves by court? Is that neutrality?

Your own hero Azam Swati is on record accepting how mil helped PTI win.

And your IK is a chronic liar, from 35 punchure to alkadir trust.

 

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Yes PDM came into power politically. PTI resigned in both Punjab and KP. And was booted out by vonc.

Your second statement makes no sense. You claim army as an institution is corrupt but you have no shame supporting a person whose entire political party was set up by the mil using lotas.
Who himself is corrupt (the cases are in court) and anyone with half a brain should read those files and see on what grounds he was arrested by NAB.

you claim munir isn't neutral?

Didn't Imran cry and whine because he claimed only janwar are neutral? So what is it?

Munir should support ik into power like Bajwa to verify his credentials?

What about Mr Bandiyal and his wife? They neutral? The way Imran has been treated with kid gloves by court? Is that neutrality?

Your own hero Azam Swati is on record accepting how mil helped PTI win.

And your IK is a chronic liar, from 35 punchure to alkadir trust.

PDM came into power through same lotas you are referring to

You are just blabbering about IK non stop.. as if he is root cause of everything for 75 years of Misery.. shame on your blatant hypocrisy.. thats what Sympathisers of Military Establishment like you put forward lame excuses.. and only come up with same answers that have IK in it. Yes blame everything on Ik.. very convenient

If Military is neutral , why does nt it feel like so? Why are you bringing Ik and what he thinks.. leave that for a moment.. you guys dnt want to go to public at all... blame IK that he wants support of Military..dnt fckin give it to him then.. whats your point?

If your Beloved army is neutral, why is PDM hesitating to go to Public for mandate? Instead playing dirty politics and dragging courts into it. Yes thats right they dnt want to with IK part of system.. PDM now wants the same exact thing which they stood against two years.. they want to disqualify IK before they go to elections.. that's exactly what PDM complained about 5 years ago when NS was ousted.. blame IK that his party was bolstered by Army Individuals.. how N league came into existence? Who made Bhutto and PPP? Every major political party has more or what same exact history? What exactly is your point?

Bottomline is that our Milstablisment is corrupt to core... root of every problem

 

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Yes PDM came into power politically. PTI resigned in both Punjab and KP. And was booted out by vonc.

Your second statement makes no sense. You claim army as an institution is corrupt but you have no shame supporting a person whose entire political party was set up by the mil using lotas.
Who himself is corrupt (the cases are in court) and anyone with half a brain should read those files and see on what grounds he was arrested by NAB.

you claim munir isn't neutral?

Didn't Imran cry and whine because he claimed only janwar are neutral? So what is it?

Munir should support ik into power like Bajwa to verify his credentials?

What about Mr Bandiyal and his wife? They neutral? The way Imran has been treated with kid gloves by court? Is that neutrality?

Your own hero Azam Swati is on record accepting how mil helped PTI win.

And your IK is a chronic liar, from 35 punchure to alkadir trust.

Every person with half a Brain will see that plethora of cases Registered against Ik are fake.. how can one individual have as many as 150 cases registered against him in one year? So even you end up with right cases somewhere.. you loose credibility ,, its same fcking story where lion and peasant who used to lie about lion attacking and people stopped believing him .. ended up getting eaten.. PDM and Military Establishment has gone nuts.. they have pea sized brain.. they think people cant see through BS they peddle everyday..

How can you charge just IK in al qadir case? Where is name of Malik riaz ? Has he been given any notice to inquiry.. i would nt even discus the credentials of the case unless they charge Malik Riaz too.. thats what a person with half brain would think.. i guess you dnt even have that.. your intellectual hypocrisy does nt allow you to think with logic

 

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Every person with half a Brain will see that plethora of cases Registered against Ik are fake.. how can one individual have as many as 150 cases registered against him in one year? So even you end up with right cases somewhere.. you loose credibility ,, its same fcking story where lion and peasant who used to lie about lion attacking and people stopped believing him .. ended up getting eaten.. PDM and Military Establishment has gone nuts.. they have pea sized brain.. they think people cant see through BS they peddle everyday..

How can you charge just IK in al qadir case? Where is name of Malik riaz ? Has he been given any notice to inquiry.. i would nt even discus the credentials of the case unless they charge Malik Riaz too.. thats what a person with half brain would think.. i guess you dnt even have that.. your intellectual hypocrisy does nt allow you to think with logic

Can we apply the same half brained title to IK? REMEMBER the cases PTI put on political opponents?

Remember the TLP massacre ?

As for Malik Riaz, that's not how preceedings work.

 

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Can we apply the same half brained title to IK? REMEMBER the cases PTI put on political opponents?

Remember the TLP massacre ?

As for Malik Riaz, that's not how preceedings work.

May be you should take some time get your head buried in Sand out of it read some amended NAB laws .. Nab case against IK is accusation of corrupt practice to give benefit to someone

To prove corrupt practice, Nab needs two things
1. Provide evidence of direct financial Gain. For example any financial transaction in personal accounts.. or some asset transferred. Being a trustee of Land which is not being used for Business , it will be difficult for Nab to prove it as financial Gain
2. The person who bribed to get benefits out of corrupt practice should be included in investigation and inquiry.. our Religion also says that a person who bribes is equally guilty like who receives it. Malik Riaz will have to admit that he gave that land for same exact benefits Imran Khan is being charged for.. highly unlikely that PDM will include its Daddy Malik Riaz into mix.
Now im not making this up.. this opinion came from one of senior officers in NAB who happen to be my room mates from University days. By senior i mean Grade 18 Deputy Directors of Investigations

Whatever PTI did , PDM has reciprocated it with double intensity. So what exactly you want to prove? If one party did it wrong.. you have justification to give it back .. thats the gutter mentality actually and i suggest you change your thinking.. you are only assuming that im hardcore Pti supporter and your crux of discussion is only bashing PTI.. you have nt answered my questions or arguments.. keep repeating same bs.. pti did this.. pti did that.. ok then go to elections.. establishment is already neutral according to you.. let people make decisions then? What are you guys afraid of? According to you PTI has no public support so whats the big deal in elections?

You think people cant see through BS.. no sir , stop trying to insult collective intelligence of Majority by imposing your so called wisdom that who is right and who is wrong.. who should be our leader? Again let people decide.. why is it so hard for our military to let go off that menacing grip over affairs where they have some kind of delusion that Majority of our people cant make right decisions, thats why they feel they have to meddle in for course correction.. all dictatorships in world have these kinds of Justifications .., stop with BS again