Passport Index: Bangladesh ranks 101st as pandemic pushes Japan to the top

[Arthur]

sound like tdiplomatic passports are the best passports... if you have one you're king of the world

Actually no..... just trouble... pure unadulterated trouble.....

A shit magnet...

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Actually no..... mine seemed to give me just trouble... pure unadulterated trouble.....

A shit magnet...

You have a diplo passport ?

 

[Arthur]

You have a diplo passport ?

Used to....for few years..... did some kamlagiri for the good ooll empire....

Sometimes it felt like I was a prison guard at Auschwitz....

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Used to.... did some kamlagiri for the good ooll empire....

lel, I was thinking of finishing my uni and getting into civil service..... Realistically though, never happening I guess.

 

[Iltutmish]

They use their parents hard earned money or sell ancestral land to go abroad for university studies and then don't return back to home country.... Why because they're spoiled by Western lifestyle and home is now a 'shithole'....

I wonder, how will home stop being a 'shithole', if people aren't ready to make sacrifices for it and work towards its development.

The brother of my wife’s nana did the same. Nana helped him to got the papers done for America, paid for everything and he never received a call again. He left Pakistan 1986 and never came back. My wife found his family a few years back via Facebook, he married an American woman and earned a lot of money. The nana of my wife struggled financially after helping him going to America (actually he never recovered from that). He never asked him how he was, never paid him back. Last month he called all his relatives in Pakistan. He has last stage cancer and just wanted to say goodbye and thanked Nana for everything he has done for him :-(.

I know many sad stories of overseas Pakistanis. On the one hand you have overseas subcontinentals who work their butts off for their family, living in small apartments, working long hours and sending almost everything back home to an ungrateful family who is never satisfied. On the other hand you have people like my wife’s nana brother who never came back or send word.

He died yesterday afternoon. Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun. May Allah forgive him and us all and help us to be helpful and grateful.

 

[Arthur]

lel, I was thinking of finishing my uni and getting into civil service..... Realistically though, never happening I guess.

There's nothing "Civil " about the civil service. Specially our native one.

And why would one want to spoil years of his youth to memories things he has no practical use for baffles me.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

There's nothing "Civil " about the civil service. Specially our native one.

And why would one want to spoil years of his youth to memories things he has no practical use for baffles me.

Hahaha

I can detect hatred towards the Bangladeshi system in that comment.

They deserve all the hate, they get.

 

[bluesky]

also if your passport have travel history you can got visas . i see many paksitani travelers with green passports visited 100+ countries . its just money and power sir . in our countries passport fee is 5000 rupees if world open the door then even beggars will make passport and run from countries of south asia

It is all thanks to religious fundamentalism/extremism and our good politicians that our three countries are unable to make their respective countries prosperous.

However, BD with Hasina like leader at the top remains at the bottom.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

It is all thanks to religious fundamentalism/extremism and our good politicians that our three countries are unable to make their respective countries prosperous.

However, BD with Hasina like leader at the top remains at the bottom.

Human development is higher in BD then in Pakistan and India.


This is an irrefutable and indisputable fact.

 

[Nilgiri]

Human development is higher in BD then in Pakistan and India.


This is an irrefutable and indisputable fact.

http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/table-1-human-development-index-and-its-components-1

http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/mpi_2019_table_1.pdf

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/table-1-human-development-index-and-its-components-1

http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/mpi_2019_table_1.pdf

I'm well aware of this but there's more indices that play into human development rather than the single one size fits all approach as taken by the HDI Index and even then India is what 5 or 6 places ahead of us ?


Bear in mind, India is large and has a lot of natural resources to develop their nation, while we in Bangladesh don't have that luxury add to that you have been independent since '47, had proper governments unlike our flip flop from civil war to democracy to dictatorship to divine mandate.


In five or so years, the indices will indicate what we all know.

India is also cursed with a massive population. Desis are ungainly and an unruly populace, we're blesses in that we have only 160 million idiots to deal with and the flow of population growth has also been dealt with.



Just take a look at life expectancy, girls enrollment, participation of women in the workforce, infant mortality rate, per capita income and so on....

If we're not ahead of India on all those counts, we will be in a while.


The thing is while India's middle class is undoubtedly living the good life, the poor ones are swept under the carpet and having a one billion strong population is a developmental obstacle.



But anyhow it is not a race but rather a friendly competition of sorts, good luck to India and Pakistan.

 

[Black_cats]

I'm well aware of this but there's more indices that play into human development rather than the single one size fits all approach as taken by the HDI Index and even then India is what 5 or 6 places ahead of us ?


Bear in mind, India is large and has a lot of natural resources to develop their nation, while we in Bangladesh don't have that luxury add to that you have been independent since '47, had proper governments unlike our flip flop from civil war to democracy to dictatorship to divine mandate.


In five or so years, the indices will indicate what we all know.

India is also cursed with a massive population. Desis are ungainly and an unruly populace, we're blesses in that we have only 160 million idiots to deal with and the flow of population growth has also been dealt with.



Just take a look at life expectancy, girls enrollment, participation of women in the workforce, infant mortality rate, per capita income and so on....

If we're not ahead of India on all those counts, we will be in a while.


The thing is while India's middle class is undoubtedly living the good life, the poor ones are swept under the carpet and having a one billion strong population is a developmental obstacle.



But anyhow it is not a race but rather a friendly competition of sorts, good luck to India and Pakistan.

India is only ahead in per capita GDP and average education little bit that’s why it is placed ahead of Bangladesh. Whereas Bangladesh is ahead of most of other indices than India.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

India is only ahead in per capita GDP and average education little bit that’s why it is placed ahead of Bangladesh. Whereas Bangladesh is ahead of most of other indices than India.

Indian education system is good, at the university level anyway, we should take some cues from them.


Bangladesh is bogged down by corruption and say what you will about Hasina (I know nilgiri has a lot to say about her) but in the 50 years of independence, Bangladesh has only really started developing from 2009 onwards.



Compared to our score in 2008, now we're growing and climbing the ladders of human development quickly and we are set to overtake India in a few years, per capita income is also neck and neck if you check 2020 stats.

 

[Black_cats]

Indian education system is good, at the university level anyway, we should take some cues from them.


Bangladesh is bogged down by corruption and say what you will about Hasina (I know nilgiri has a lot to say about her) but in the 50 years of independence, Bangladesh has only really started developing from 2009 onwards.



Compared to our score in 2008, now we're growing and climbing the ladders of human development quickly and we are set to overtake India in a few years, per capita income is also neck and neck if you check 2020 stats.

Bangladedh is developing from 1990s. From early 2000 it got momentum as gdp growth crossed 6% and by 2006-7 it went upto 6.7%. So it’s not fully true Bangladesh started developing from 2009.

 

[Nilgiri]

I'm well aware of this but there's more indices that play into human development rather than the single one size fits all approach as taken by the HDI Index and even then India is what 5 or 6 places ahead of us ?


Bear India is large and has a lot of natural resources to develop their nation, while we in Bangladesh don't have that luxury add to that you have been independent since '47, had proper governments unlike our flip flop from civil war to democracy to dictatorship to divine mandate.


I'm five or so the indices will indicate what we all know, India is also cursed with a massive population. Desis are ungainly and an unruly populace, we're blesses in that we have only 160 million idiots to deal with and the flow of population growth has also been dealt with.

It's all been discussed to death man....dont wanna get into all of it again.

I dont think anything is "irrefutable and indisputable fact."... given the regions sheer low levels of development, major inconsistencies and varying level of quality in institutions for measuring all this in first place....and all the various contexts we can all bicker as to who missed what bus from before....because of wars, conflicts, tensions, un-needed spending, bad govts and corruption.

BD and India have overall done better than Pakistan on most socio-economic indicators (governing health, reproduction, education) by some amount since a lot of this can be 3rd party vetted in large-scale data ways (census, population pyramids, population growth, school enrolment etc), lets leave it at that for those.

But India and BD have huge way to go on these too.....infant mortality must reduce to near 10 per 1000 as quick as possible....and Life expectancy must go to 75 and surpass that as quick as possible, full schooling expectancy must reach towards 15 years and more ASAP....etc etc

But I would need to see more evidence of BD development in purely economic realm in 3rd party way too (without BAL interfering). The light output of its cities (from space) is not well correlated with its GDP for example. BD needs to develop broader better institutions and broader better corporate networks in more sectors....but thats not getting attention it deserves either from BAL it seems.....as it introduces a necessary element in competition politically over time.