Panipat (film) 2019 – A Stark Reminder to The Muslims of Hindustan About Their Betrayal

[TheGreatMaratha]

lol, India has been looted by hundreds of attackers for the last 7000 years recorded history. Why you single out Muslim leaders only ? Has Alexander and Barbarians and Arians not screwed you thousands of years ago ? Why not make a movie on Alexander ?

What about Pakistan though? Didn't present day Pakistan get looted? Or was it immune to invasions? Are you even thinking? Alexander conquered more of present day Pakistan than present day India. In fact, present day Pakistan was almost fully conquered by invaders. And present day Pakistan don't even have kings who conquered large areas. What are you even proud about?

Abdali was a local guy..He was born in Multan..Durani empire was local to the large part of present day Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Abdali was a Pashtun and he owed allegiance to more of present day Aghanistan. He was the founder of the modern state of Afghanistan and was referred as the king of Afghanistan. Most of his territory was in Afghanistan. Kandahar was the capital during his reign. He invaded the Punjab region atleast thrice if not more. Why isn't he referred as 'Father of Pakistan' like he is considered as 'Father of Afghanistan'?

I don't know what's the problem here. Why aren't people going by facts? I have to tell this again and again. Pakistanis are saying that India got conquered many times while they themselves were always the first to be conquered and invaded before present day India. Alexander, Ghouri, Ghazni, Abdali who don't even belong to present day Pakistan first invaded Pakistan before invading India. If it was any Pakistani ruler who invaded India, then I would have said that Pakistanis had conquered India at one time but I don't see any strong son of the soil Pakistani ruler. All are Turks, Uzbeks, Afghans. And these Turks, Uzbeks, Afghans conquered more of present day Pakistan than present day India.
Please use common sense guys.

 

[H. Dawary]

What about Pakistan though? Didn't present day Pakistan get looted? Or was it immune to invasions? Are you even thinking? Alexander conquered more of present day Pakistan than present day India. In fact, present day Pakistan was almost fully conquered by invaders. And present day Pakistan don't even have kings who conquered large areas. What are you even proud about?

Pakistanis have nothing to be proud about, but they have everything to be happy about. In Islam pride is only reserved for Allah and no man will enter heaven so long as he has even an atom's weight of pride.

To you perhaps Muslims may seem as aggressors and invaders, but to me and others like me they are seen as liberators, inventors and innovators. When Europe abandoned everything their forefathers accomplished during the dark ages, it was the Muslims who preserved the texts of Hippocrates, Plato, Aristotle, among many others and further during the enlightenment did they translate them from Arabic and Persian back to their native tongues.

Perhaps you yourself should look into figures like Avicenna, Ibn Al Haytham, Al Khawrzimi, Abu Rayhan, Ibn Firnas, Al Kindi, Al Tusi, and thousands of others who brought many great ideas and inventions into the world which are being used and now even advanced upon because of them.

Afghan and Pakistani history is not limited to certain areas, our history is part of Islamic history. Our heroes are not just Abdali, Ghori, or Ghaznavi, our heroes are Salahuddin (a Kurd), Khalid Bin Walid (an Arab), Baibars (a Mamluk Turk), Abu Hanifa (a Persian). Please try to understand this, we are Muslims first and foremost, all of our heroes are Muslims, and our history is Islamic history.

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

Pakistanis have nothing to be proud about, but they have everything to be happy about. In Islam pride is only reserved for Allah and no man will enter heaven so long as he has even an atom's weight of pride.

To you perhaps Muslims may seem as aggressors and invaders, but to me and others like me they are seen as liberators, inventors and innovators. When Europe abandoned everything their forefathers accomplished during the dark ages, it was the Muslims who preserved the texts of Hippocrates, Plato, Aristotle, among many others and further during the enlightenment did they translate them from Arabic and Persian back to their native tongues.

Perhaps you yourself should look into figures like Avicenna, Ibn Al Haytham, Al Khawrzimi, Abu Rayhan, Ibn Firnas, Al Kindi, Al Tusi, and thousands of others who brought many great ideas and inventions into the world which are being used and now even advanced upon because of them.

Afghan and Pakistani history is not limited to certain areas, our history is part of Islamic history. Our heroes are not just Abdali, Ghori, or Ghaznavi, our heroes are Salahuddin (a Kurd), Khalid Bin Walid (an Arab), Baibars (a Mamluk Turk), Abu Hanifa (a Persian). Please try to understand this, we are Muslims first and foremost, all of our heroes are Muslims, and our history is Islamic history.

I always respect great people. If a person is good, I respect him. Religion is not even the first thing. So if people like Avicenna, Ibn Al Haytham, Al Khawrzimi, Abu Rayhan, Ibn Firnas, Al Kindi, Al Tusi have contributed as you mentioned I'll applaud them.

But if you are Muslims first, why don't I see a merger of Pakistan and Afghanistan? Why are the people in Middle East constantly killing each other? Why is Middle East history all about bloodshed? I'll give you the answer. Culture and language triumphs over religion for modern nation states. Bangladesh wouldn't have separated from Pakistan if religion is so important.

 

[H. Dawary]

I always respect great people. If a person is good, I respect him. Religion is not even the first thing. So if people like Avicenna, Ibn Al Haytham, Al Khawrzimi, Abu Rayhan, Ibn Firnas, Al Kindi, Al Tusi have contributed as you mentioned I'll applaud them.

But if you are Muslims first, why don't I see a merger of Pakistan and Afghanistan? Why are the people in Middle East constantly killing each other? Why is Middle East history all about bloodshed? I'll give you the answer. Culture and language triumphs over religion for modern nation states. Bangladesh wouldn't have separated from Pakistan if religion is so important.

We will eventually merge InshAllah, I as an Afghan support that, and it will be something that will be a mutual agreement, not one side dominating the other and forcing them against their will like Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.

War has been a constant occurrence throughout history, Indian kingdoms fought against one another, so did the Chinese during the warring states period. We are divide now, but we will eventually unite, even if it is not under a single leader it will be a EU based model in which we will all benefit one another.

Right now we are struggling because we are currently weak and foreign forces are constantly interfering with us to steal our resources. We will eventually unite, perhaps not now, but eventually.

And regarding Bangladesh, its true that may have been a blunder on the part of my Pakistani brothers, but Bangladeshis feel more closer towards Pakistan today then they do towards India. You yourself must have come across these sentiments many times yourself.

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

We will eventually merge InshAllah, I as an Afghan support that, and it will be something that will be a mutual agreement, not one side dominating the other and forcing them against their will like Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.

War has been a constant occurrence throughout history, Indian kingdoms fought against one another, so did the Chinese during the warring states period. We are divide now, but we will eventually unite, even if it is not under a single leader it will be a EU based model in which we will all benefit one another.

Right now we are struggling because we are currently weak and foreign forces are constantly interfering with us to steal our resources. We will eventually unite, perhaps not now, but eventually.

And regarding Bangladesh, its true that may have been a blunder on the part of my Pakistani brothers, but Bangladeshis feel more closer towards Pakistan today then they do towards India. You yourself must have come across these sentiments many times yourself.

It doesn't matter who Bangladesh are closer towards. The fact is that they separated from Pakistan. Of course, we want good relations with both Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Regarding your talk about merger of Muslim states, I personally feel it's highly unlikely. But you never know right?

 

[Aasimkhan]

What about Pakistan though? Didn't present day Pakistan get looted? Or was it immune to invasions? Are you even thinking? Alexander conquered more of present day Pakistan than present day India. In fact, present day Pakistan was almost fully conquered by invaders. And present day Pakistan don't even have kings who conquered large areas. What are you even proud about?

Let me tell you what i am proud of I am an Awan, my gr8 gr8 grand father was Qutab Shah, Qutab Shah was the Vanguard commander of Mehmood of Ghazna during his attack on Somnath. The soldiers of Qutab Shah climbed the walls of Somnath and opened the gate for entry of Mehmood of Ghazna's army into the city where Indians were holed up thinking they were safe. And Pakistanis are not the one making funny movies like the ones being made in your Bollywood. In bollywood movies every hindu is james Bond and every Muslim is terrorist, The actual fact on ground is reverse of it. We the Pakistanis associate ourselves with our Muslim heritage. Islam is free of geographical, linguistic, ethnic, cultural, social bondages. It does not segregate human beings like caste system of Hinduism. People of Pakistan are proud Muslims who are proud of Islamic teachings. We dont associate ourselves with ENDIANS heritage.

I always respect great people. If a person is good, I respect him. Religion is not even the first thing. So if people like Avicenna, Ibn Al Haytham, Al Khawrzimi, Abu Rayhan, Ibn Firnas, Al Kindi, Al Tusi have contributed as you mentioned I'll applaud them.

But if you are Muslims first, why don't I see a merger of Pakistan and Afghanistan? Why are the people in Middle East constantly killing each other? Why is Middle East history all about bloodshed? I'll give you the answer. Culture and language triumphs over religion for modern nation states. Bangladesh wouldn't have separated from Pakistan if religion is so important.

Creation of Bangladesh is not a proof of failure of two nation theory. Creation of Bangladesh is a historical blunder under Indian propaganda for which Bangla nation is paying the price. Smilerly Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey, Kazakhstan, turkmenistan and uzbekistan (and to some extent Iran also) are brothers who have been separated due to Indian/US propaganda. Ii due course of time this historical mistake will be eradicated. Latest decision of Indian Supreme Court and Modi's actions in Kashmir are a clear proof that Muslims can only exist as 2nd rate citizens in India. This, in principle, is the death of secular India.

 

[TheGreatMaratha]

Let me tell you what i am proud of I am an Awan, my gr8 gr8 grand father was Qutab Shah, Qutab Shah was the Vanguard commander of Mehmood of Ghazna during his attack on Somnath. The soldiers of Qutab Shah climbed the walls of Somnath and opened the gate for entry of Mehmood of Ghazna's army into the city where Indians were holed up thinking they were safe. And Pakistanis are not the one making funny movies like the ones being made in your Bollywood. In bollywood movies every hindu is james Bond and every Muslim is terrorist, The actual fact on ground is reverse of it. We the Pakistanis associate ourselves with our Muslim heritage. Islam is free of geographical, linguistic, ethnic, cultural, social bondages. It does not segregate human beings like caste system of Hinduism. People of Pakistan are proud Muslims who are proud of Islamic teachings. We dont associate ourselves with ENDIANS heritage.

So you are proud about destruction of Somnath temple? Then don't be angry when people having similar mindset as you are proud about demolition of Babri masjid.

And your great great grandfather couldn't have served Mehmood of Ghazna as Mehmood of Ghazna was much before that.

I think I'm just wasting my time here. I think it was stupid of me to expect you guys to understand my point. I don't blame you though as our surroundings, environment, religion, culture, language, dictate our thoughts. And above all, our maturity and self introspection dictate us as a good, sensible person or not. Saying the same thing to everyone individually doesn't make sense.

 

[Musafir117]

Bollywood movies are a way of mentally
.....bation for Indians and they love to watch that sxit.

 

[Aasimkhan]

So you are proud about destruction of Somnath temple? Then don't be angry when people having similar mindset as you are proud about demolition of Babri masjid.

And your great great grandfather couldn't have served Mehmood of Ghazna as Mehmood of Ghazna was much before that.

I think I'm just wasting my time here. I think it was stupid of me to expect you guys to understand my point. I don't blame you though as our surroundings, environment, religion, culture, language, dictate our thoughts. And above all, our maturity and self introspection dictate us as a good, sensible person or not. Saying the same thing to everyone individually doesn't make sense.

lol, the basic problem is you Indians is that you dont even understand what you are talking about. Somnath was an enemy city so it was under attack. Babri Masjid was a place of worship of minorities inside India. You have destroyed a worship place of your own citizens. And yes I am proud of what my grand father did. I believe you Indians cannot live with peace. The list of your crimes in Kashmir, in Siachen, in East Pakistan, in Golden Temple, in Hyderabad Deccan, in Junagadh and many many other places is unending. One day I myself or my coming generations will liberate innocent Kashmiris of your illegal occupation, we will build Babri Masjid again and Sikhs will also get their Khalistan. Dont worry, its only a matter of time.

Just look how bangladeshi brothers are fed up of Indian high handedness (whom India so-called helped in liberating from Pakistan). https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/mou-...ter-a-temporary-arrangement-pm-hasina.642786/

 

[drunken-monke]

Marathas attacked and butchered Muslims too.

And so did the muslims as well.. In fact before marathas gained power..

 

[Aasimkhan]

And so did the muslims as well.. In fact before marathas gained power..

Battle field casualties are different than butchering of innocent civilians, dont forget the difference

 

[drunken-monke]

Babri Masjid was a place of worship of minorities inside India.

one addition "Babri Masjid was a place of worship of minorities inside India built after destroying the Lord Ram Temple at his birthplace".

 

[Aasimkhan]

one addition "Babri Masjid was a place of worship of minorities inside India built after destroying the Lord Ram Temple at his birthplace".

Of which your own Archaeological department has said there is no such proof. And of which your own Supreme Court has admitted that destruction of Babri Masjid was illegal. Are you talking of same fake Ram Temple?

 

[drunken-monke]

Battle field casualties are different than butchering of innocent civilians, dont forget the difference

We dont.. About 80000 warriers were killed from maratha side.. but about 200000 women, children and old age were killed/raped post panipat.. I am Maratha and 14 January 1761 is black day for whole Maharashtra.. There was hardly any family from entire state from which a member or more have not died at Panipat.. Almost 300000 maratha people were massacred during that day.. and guess what this paved way for British rule in India..

Of which your own Archaeological department has said there is no such proof. And of which your own Supreme Court has admitted that destruction of Babri Masjid was illegal. Are you talking of same fake Ram Temple?

Oh yes they have.. ASI officer (a muslim though) have put facts and evidences that there existed a temple before.. Out of five judges one is muslim and they all worked professionally. and yes suprem court did said that destruction was illegal.

 

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