Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[Dawood Ibrahim]

Justice Ejaz Afzal today ran out of questions and observations. His one of few observations that "Masomana ghalti ko adalat nazarandaz ker sakti hy" stole the show. @PakSword @Farah Sohail @Doordie

 

[Emmie]

He also said that Article 66 is the hurdle in examining PM address in Parliament.. He is providing everything to NS counsel so that they can fortify their defense.

True, he's leaving no stone unturned to defend NS & progeny, he's a de facto defense counsel on a judge's chair. I think defense counsel, Makhdoom sb, will not take plea based on Art. 66, plea would mean acceptance that PM lied in parliament.

 

[PakSword]

@Farah Sohail @Emmie @Doordie

https://twitter.com/x/status/819432995438424064

 

[Zibago]

You show us Nawaz sharif name in Panama leaks and we publicly disown his support and ask SC to issues publicly stoning for his whole family..stop the bull crap... there's no evidence of offshore money laundering...today one of Pti's lawyer ran away hold tight and you will have to swallow the same throne which all Pti followers did when there was rigging charges were giving national attention to seek evil agendas ...truth might be delayed but it can never over shadow by a lie ....hold tight my friend ...! just hold tight ..!

Nawaz Sharif once said kon bewakof corruption ka paisa apney account mein rakhta hay on swiss banks case
Boy oh boy did he just reveal his strategy when he made that statement

People cry on Baldia factory Nawax just burnt entire record of Metro project this time he didnt even bother to remove workers

 

[PakSword]

ویسے جج کو بھی مورد الزام نہیں ٹہراسکتے کیوں کے جب آئین ہی ان جھوٹوں کی حفاظت پر مامور ہو تو کیا کیا جاسکتا ہے

غلط بیانی کا مقدمہ تو نمٹ گیا جسٹس محترم ہم سب کے پیارے قوم کے راج دلارے افضل بھائی کی بدولت

کیا زبردست آئین ہے ہمارے ملک کا، اس کو چوم کر سب سے اوپر رکھنا چاہیے
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66 Privileges of members, etc.
(1) Subject to the Constitution and to the rules of procedure of 143[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 143, there shall be freedom of speech in 144[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 144 and no member shall be liable to any proceedings in any court in respect of anything said or any vote given by him in 145[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 145, and no person shall be so liable in respect of the publication by or under the authority of 146[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 146 of any report, paper, votes or proceedings.

(2) In other respects, the powers, immunities and privileges of 147[Majlis-e-Shoora, (Parliament)] 147, and the immunities and privileges of the members of 148[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 148, shall be such as may from time to time be defined by law and, until so defined, shall be such as were, immediately before the commencing day, enjoyed by the National Assembly of Pakistan and the committees thereof and its members.

(3) Provision may be made by law for the punishment, by a House, of persons who refuse to give evidence or produce documents before a committee of the House when duly required by the chairman of the committee so to do:Provided that any such law-
(a) may empower a court to punish a person who refuses to give evidence or produce documents; and
(b) shall have effect subject to such Order for safeguarding confidential matters from disclosure as may be made by the President.

(4) The provisions of this Article shall apply to person s who have the right to speak in, and otherwise to take part in the proceedings of, 149[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 149 as they apply to members.

(5) In this Article, 150[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 150 means either House or a joint sitting, or a committee thereof.

 

[Farah Sohail]

True, he's leaving no stone unturned to defend NS & progeny, he's a de facto defense counsel on a judge's chair. I think defense counsel, Makhdoom sb, will not take plea based on Art. 66, plea would mean acceptance that PM lied in parliament.

I told u guys earlier.... judges will provide us daily dose of entertainment...and thts the reason, I am still following this case... to have a good laugh

ویسے جج کو بھی مورد الزام نہیں ٹہراسکتے کیوں کے جب آئین ہی ان جھوٹوں کی حفاظت پر مامور ہو تو کیا کیا جاسکتا ہے

غلط بیانی کا مقدمہ تو نمٹ گیا جسٹس محترم ہم سب کے پیارے قوم کے راج دلارے افضل بھائی کی بدولت

کیا زبردست آئین ہے ہمارے ملک کا، اس کو چوم کر سب سے اوپر رکھنا چاہیے
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66 Privileges of members, etc.
(1) Subject to the Constitution and to the rules of procedure of 143[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 143, there shall be freedom of speech in 144[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 144 and no member shall be liable to any proceedings in any court in respect of anything said or any vote given by him in 145[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 145, and no person shall be so liable in respect of the publication by or under the authority of 146[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 146 of any report, paper, votes or proceedings.

(2) In other respects, the powers, immunities and privileges of 147[Majlis-e-Shoora, (Parliament)] 147, and the immunities and privileges of the members of 148[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 148, shall be such as may from time to time be defined by law and, until so defined, shall be such as were, immediately before the commencing day, enjoyed by the National Assembly of Pakistan and the committees thereof and its members.

(3) Provision may be made by law for the punishment, by a House, of persons who refuse to give evidence or produce documents before a committee of the House when duly required by the chairman of the committee so to do:Provided that any such law-
(a) may empower a court to punish a person who refuses to give evidence or produce documents; and
(b) shall have effect subject to such Order for safeguarding confidential matters from disclosure as may be made by the President.

(4) The provisions of this Article shall apply to person s who have the right to speak in, and otherwise to take part in the proceedings of, 149[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 149 as they apply to members.

(5) In this Article, 150[Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] 150 means either House or a joint sitting, or a committee thereof.

phir article62/63 ka kia karein jo sadiq aur amen honay ko kehta hai?

waisy you were right.. this justice Afzal is even more shameless than tht pakora judge.. he is giving all hints to Nawaz sharif.. pakora judge phir bhi kabhi kabhi un se koi sakht sawal kar leta hai..

only justice khosa is a bit decent judge... but dont know whether he is genuinely like tht or they are playing good cop bad cop?

 

[The Eagle]

Now, breaking this cycle/system isn't easy even for the creators as the creations have learned to outsmart the creators.

Actually, people never understood the power they possessed but being running after truck ki batti. The creators of those times actually took advantage of what people wanted to hear and see hence corrupt political lot. Indeed the cancer is not new but people were the part of same creation as well. Just look at what happening today like majority claims to support NS while on other hand to AAZ and few thinks to get rid of those Pakistanis who supports them both parties which is totally impossible like no, it can't be until & unless killed them or they vanish from the face of earth. So the situation warrants the awareness culture for them and the same needs to be started by people/us etc to bring change. Supporters of both parties (NS & AAZ) are not different people but the few knows that when it comes to Govern the country turn by turn then favour tilts automatically. There are different ways to favour someone else and diverting the vote is not the single thing on earth. PPPP wanted to handover the command of country to NS. AAZ limited the ticket holders, brought forward the corrupt ones and even did not pay attention to campaign in different areas so that opponent got a chance to win hence these tactics are also favours that very less voters/supporters understand but majority is blindly following.

After assassination of Bibi, PMLn knew the sentimental growing graph of PPPP hence did the same job and these thugs are in contract with each other. So, when people are not ready to bring the change with someone else, then few offices has to choose the one among the choice of people but in control manners so the less damage be done. When I have no choice but to elect a thief then most probably I will be looking for the smaller one or with the less greed so at-least can be saved. Try to understand, a simple white wash is not applicable here and before doing so, there is a need of an alternate system/tool to run the business otherwise it is going to be a stalemate and then downward/destruction. As per the current situation, seems like the country is into transition phase and the change will be here soon In'Sha'ALLAH which is a must now with no option left like Now or Never.

 

[PakSword]

phir article62/63 ka kia karein jo sadiq aur amen honay ko kehta hai?

آرٹیکلز ٦٢، ٦٣ اس چیمپئن آرٹیکل ٦٦ کی وجہ سے شاید پارلیمنٹ میں کی گئی بکواس پر لاگو نہیں ہوتے ​

 

[The Eagle]

Interesting findings that I observed.

NS lawyer openly said in Court that contrary to the submission in Court, whatever PM stated on floor of assembly, was a political statement. Now one wonders that submission in Court is called the truth on oath while calling the Assembly Speech a political statement means opposite to Truth which is indeed a lie. Unfortunately, the blind followers doesn't even pay an attention that what really happening as in our country, through most respected house (as per politicians) now, the lie is certified as political statement and none can challenge the same so what to expect next.

Mere disqualification of PM would be like same as what NAB did in Raisani recovery case through plea bargain. NS cannot be PM again even by democratic rules and disqualification is not the solution but the looted money that needs to be recovered from each & every culprit and be brought back to the country otherwise, these sort of cases are going to be the routine and supporters will be voting for the same purpose for many decades/tenure to come. Another example to viewed as how AAZ made an entry as proudly without any hesitation and fear of justice knowing that the corrupt brothers are no different than each other and will be supporting through these times.

By looking at the facts, it seems that matter will be disposed-off on technical grounds rather than merit that no one from any department, has the guts or strength to face the pressure and angering the master that has been feeding them. Even if push come to shove, we will see another end like what happened to Gilani but the Mafia will be secured and safe in the end which fears loosing money more than going to jail. Only 2 moths after January, are left for any possible change that I see maximum till April, 2017 otherwise it is too late as we are already at the point of Now or Never. For them all culprits, there is always a win win in the end and for us, only loosing party is Pakistan.

In continuation of the same, I would like to add another thing. The Law and its practitioners are aware that Article 62-63 is for safeguard of interests of the Nation and Pakistan to make sure that none other than a Pakistani can serve the Nation at best. The Irony is, no one is ready to apply the same law which is constituted for the benefit of Pakistan but are threatening everyone with the same that none will be left except Siraj-ul-Haq so IMO, My Lord, indeed, it is the law empowering you to do the right thing rather than saving the skins of culprits. I found that statement as an acknowledgement and a message to the nation that look, we have no Sadiq & Amin among political parties/ruling elites. Alas, none came out or raised voice that it is the time to get rid of corrupted lot and these people that have been looting us, the country, the nation only in the name of Politics which is proven as a black mark on us. People must take notice of such remarks from start to last during the proceedings that with help educate and create awareness among people to do the right thing. Very few took notice and most of us are blind to see what has been told openly that validates the fate of Nation if right step is not taken in time.

 

[Emmie]

Justice Sheikh Azmat Saeed told Makhdoom Khan that the Panamagate case is based on contradictions in statements made by the prime minister on the floor of the National Assembly after the Panama leaks last year.

Justice Azmat hinting defense not to waste energy on Gulf steel, Panamagate case is based on contradictions in statements made by PM. Justice Ejaz Afzal did rest of the job by bringing article 66 into limelight.

 

[Farah Sohail]

آرٹیکلز ٦٢، ٦٣ اس چیمپئن آرٹیکل ٦٦ کی وجہ سے شاید پارلیمنٹ میں کی گئی بکواس پر لاگو نہیں ہوتے ​

waah..

yesterday Sheikh Rashid told..tht when I was mentioning all cases of disqualification, on basis of 62, 63.... judges remarked...ke unhein pehlay doosre forums se saza hochuki thee...phir SC who cases aaye thay.. then Sheikh Rashid said..tht one judge..i think Justice khosa himself remarked.. ke 2 cases waqayi aisy bhi thay ..jo direct SC aaye thay aur yaheen se disqualify hogaye thay... Justice khosa ke is remark se..i think Justice Ejaz Afzal kal hi se pareshan hogaya hoga... kal se soch raha hoga ke ab is museebat ka kia Karun tu sochnay ke baad usay article 66 bil akhir yaad aa hi gaya hoga apni aur mian sb ki mushkil khatam karnay ko

 

[El_Swordsmen]

Justice Ejaz Afzal today ran out of questions and observations. His one of few observations that "Masomana ghalti ko adalat nazarandaz ker sakti hy" stole the show.

sir he further added that "laikin jaan boohj kay ki janay wali galti kay sangeen nataij hongy"

 

[PakSword]

In continuation of the same, I would like to add another thing. The Law and its practitioners are aware that Article 62-63 is for safeguard of interests of the Nation and Pakistan to make sure that none other than a Pakistani can serve the Nation at best. The Irony is, no one is ready to apply the same law which is constituted for the benefit of Pakistan but are threatening everyone with the same that none will be left except Siraj-ul-Haq so IMO, My Lord, indeed, it is the law empowering you to do the right thing rather than saving the skins of culprits. I found that statement as an acknowledgement and a message to the nation that look, we have no Sadiq & Amin among political parties/ruling elites. Alas, none came out or raised voice that it is the time to get rid of corrupted lot and these people that have been looting us, the country, the nation only in the name of Politics which is proven as a black mark on us. People must take notice of such remarks from start to last during the proceedings that with help educate and create awareness among people to do the right thing. Very few took notice and most of us are blind to see what has been told openly that validates the fate of Nation if right step is not taken in time.

There is a reason why ruling elite didn't work on education reforms in mostly backwards areas in Pakistan...

sir he further added that "laikin jaan boohj kay ki janay wali galti kay sangeen nataij hongy"

Nawaz Shareef will say that it was not deliberate...

 

[Emmie]

sir he further added that "laikin jaan boohj kar ki janay wali galti kay sangeen nataij hongy"

Bud, lets not fool ourselves. Jab janabe wazir e azam ne jaan bhoojh ker koi ghalti ke nahi tau kahan ke sangeen nataij kaise sangeen nataij? Aur waise bhi Article 66 kahan koi karwai kerne ke ejazat deta hy? I am quoting none but Justice Ejaz Afzal Khan himself.

"The business belongs to the [premier's] children. The record will be presented by their lawyer."

Banda pochay wakeel mosoof see ke do dafa national TV per aur aik dafa parliament mein janabe wazir e azam jhak marne aye thay?

 

[Rank]

sir he further added that "laikin jaan boohj kay ki janay wali galti kay sangeen nataij hongy"

mujhe yaad hey Choudry ifekaar kay time pe eek baar TV pe "Behayye pehlanay walay programs ko bandh karnay ka kaha gaya jismay MOrning shows b thay"

ispe eek bara mazedaar discussion hoi kay ye koon tah karayga kay woh kis had tak behaya hain kyoonkay kuch looog kuch chezain apnay bachoon kay saath bhaet kar nahe dekhtay aur kuch loog apni family ka ysaath bhaeet kar daek letay hain unko itna behaya nahe lagta so ye define koon karayga jiske waja say woh wala maamla rukh gaya...

ye koon define karayga kay Jaan bhoj kar tha kay ghalate se howa ganja bach jayega kyoonkay baad LAW ke nahe ye tu by the LAW b phansta hey.... ye masla hey gerat ka aur dar ka.... aur usay bhar kar..... koi shaks nahe chahta uska katal kardiya jaye yaan uske ulaad ko uthalya jaye ... technically Nawaz Sharif type loog are extremely powerfull ye kise b had tak jasakhtay hain.... har shaks ko apni aur apni family ke zindage azeez hey.... rahe baat morality ke tu woh 70 saal may nahi aye ... aglay 700 saal b nahe ayege...