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Where is PPP ? Dont tell me NS beats zardari ... or probably this analysis is for federal gov only

Jokes apart - $harif beats Zardari hands down; from SRO's which destroyed Pak Steel Mills, to Gadani Shipbreaking industry, to Forex Freezing and siphoning off billions to kickbacks in Motorway as compared to Zardari's main charge of Cotecna case of $60million.

Nawaz's just M2 kickback was $418million in early 90's.
 
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Pressure from Dr Dhabrdoos to JIT and SC. We must not forget that all these talk shows are being monitored by all stakeholders. These talk shows give them leads to both the sides.

I think Dr. Shahid has got some intel and he just did the right thing by warning them and letting them know that they are being watched ..He did not allege but warn them only. JIT members are humans, not angels. Temptations, pressure, can influence their decisions. So I think that was very wise of him to do that.

Since we are already seeing a pattern. JIT is not on the time and they have not made anything public yet while initially it was stated that proceedings will be made public at least partially. Sir you have understood him right and it takes some IQ to understand what Dr Shahid Masood is saying and we should be grateful that we have such brave and upright journalists who put their lives in risk but do not succumb to the pressure. I have been following Dr Shahid Masood for quite some time and I have found his analysis/news to be accurate for the most part. It is necessary for us to put our feet down now before it's too late.
 
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According to Dr Dhabardhoos, PMLN has successfully managed JIT and JIT will not able to come to conclusion. PTI will have to hit street again

Aur in-camera rakho JIT ko
Shahid Masood ka program dekha.. Shahid Masood sahib ne tou JIT ke hawalay se Qayamt ki peshangoi kar di hai.. ke JIT manage hogaee hai aur Govt. ko mazloom sabit karchuki hai..

lollll..

@Realistic Change @Verve @Guvera @Dil Pakistan @The Accountant @war&peace

https://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthr...-may-have-to-come-on-streets-Dr-Shahid-Masood

Actually, Dr Shahid Masood's worth is ZERO.

He says something one day, and exactly the opposite next day. Then, in the end, he says "see I was right".

If JIT has been "managed" then be sure that SC has been managed as well - there is no sign of it as yet.

P.S. - Is it possible that Dr Shahid Masood has been "managed" ?
 
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Jokes apart - $harif beats Zardari hands down; from SRO's which destroyed Pak Steel Mills, to Gadani Shipbreaking industry, to Forex Freezing and siphoning off billions to kickbacks in Motorway as compared to Zardari's main charge of Cotecna case of $60million.

Nawaz's just M2 kickback was $418million in early 90's.
Sir that 60 million dollar figures you are talking about is pre presidentship ... after becoming president zardari starting occupying 10% shares of most of the businessman and thise who resisted were butchered through law .. eg khanani and kalia ...

However you might be right NS could still be the leader as he has unique way in which he even bring laws and regulations to support his corruption ...
 
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Jokes apart - $harif beats Zardari hands down; from SRO's which destroyed Pak Steel Mills, to Gadani Shipbreaking industry, to Forex Freezing and siphoning off billions to kickbacks in Motorway as compared to Zardari's main charge of Cotecna case of $60million.

Nawaz's just M2 kickback was $418million in early 90's.
I couldn't agree with you more.No more is more devious, more corrupt than NS in Pakistan period.
 
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NS will be given a free chit in the end i suspect and it will bring an end to IK. the plan is the same as dawn leaks. create a hype through media and then end up in muk mukka. CJ said that the decision of the SC will be remembered in the history of pakistan and it proved to be just an ordinary decision. right now the media is creating a hype about JIT but our decisions are done abroad. NS will emerge as the only power in pakistan without any opposition. all those involved in this case will get insanely rich .
 
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I couldn't agree with you more.No more is more devious, more corrupt than NS in Pakistan period.

Metaphotically speaking, Zardari is more of a rasa geer (who steal animals in rural areas and enjoys the bounty) of Kachey ke illaqey (marshy areas in Sindh with deep forests), while Nawaz is more of a MarHarto (concoction of Mohammad Suharto and Ferdinand Marcos) as Nawaz has to his (dis)credit complete systematic destruction of almost all pillars of the country to the point that general public has started perceiving corruption as perfectly acceptable and way of daily life.

Nawaz/Mian $harif introduced corruption, bribe, graft in the mainstream in 1981/1982 when he gifted White Palace on a corner plot in Lahore Cantt which costed around 40 million in 1980's to Lt. Gen Ghulam Jilani in exchange for a position of Finance Minister in Punjab.

Above gifting scheme was followed by purchasing every person possible from Govt exchequer from patwaris, revenue, civil service, police, education, and then blackmailing each officer by threatening to expose their plots, accounts, benefits and keeping the system hijacked enabling them to twist every decision in their favour.

That's the difference that PPP cries about; PPP has had their some share of strong decisions/actions against PPP by bureaucracy, judiciary etc., but Nawaz will always get away by using MarHarto formula of system hijack through corruption.

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@Farah Sohail - ur wish to summon Nawaz & Baji is coming soon in cinema of Judicial Academy :)

PM flew to Lahore - any news coming out from Lahore re his planned resignation?

PMLN is all set for division after his disqualification, resignation can potentially delay the destruction.
 
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Panamagate probe: Govt fails to convince Qatari prince to appear before JIT
ISLAMABAD: The government has failed to convince Prince Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al Thani of Qatar to testify before the joint investigation team (JIT) probing into the offshore properties of the Sharif family.

Sources told The Express Tribune that Pakistan’s former attorney general Salman Aslam Butt and former chief of the defunct Ehtesab Bureau Saifur Rehman had been tasked to convince the Qatari royal to visit Pakistan for recording his statement before the JIT.

Subsequently, Butt had visited Qatar last week while Rehman is already stationed in the Arab state. However, both have failed to convince the prince, who had provided two letters to establish the money trail for the Sharif’s London properties during the hearing of the Panamagate case before the Supreme Court.
Panamagate JIT summons Qatari prince for second time

The JIT had sent two letters to the Qatari prince last month. In his reply, the prince had stated that he stood by the statement given in his letters presented before the Supreme Court.

However, a senior PML-N lawyer said the letter would not be enough to prove the money trial until the prince recorded his statement.

“The family has only less than a month to convince al Thani to record his statement,” he said, adding that Butt and Rehman were still making efforts to convince him to appear before the JIT via video link.

Qatari prince shows ‘inability’ to testify, but owns both letters

He said the legal team was also evolving an alternate strategy in case al Thani chose not to appear.

“Khawaja Haris advocate, who is supervising the family affairs before the JIT, will definitely make a plan to deal with the prevailing situation,” he added without going into detail.

A senior lawyer, who was part of the Sharifs’ legal team in the past, said no one could bind a foreigner to record a statement under the law. However, the top court has already asked the JIT to disregard the Qatari prince’s letter if he does not appear in person before the panel.

JIT’s letter delivered to Qatari prince

“The respondents [Sharif family] will have to face consequences if the prince fails to appear before the JIT,” the apex court’s three-judge bench had recently observed.

Meanwhile, sources said the JIT is considering summoning Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Finance Minister Ishaq Dar in the coming weeks.

In compliance with the Supreme Court’s order, the JIT has submitted a separate application to highlight the problems it has been facing during the investigation of the Sharifs’ offshore businesses.

After five appearances, Hussain Nawaz hopes JIT has finished questioning him

The application has been submitted by the JIT’s head Wajid Zia to the Supreme Court’s registrar. Legal experts say the ‘impediments’ the JIT has complained about relate to some departments that are not cooperating with the JIT.

The JIT will submit its reply with regard to Hussain Nawaz’s plea to direct the JIT members to ‘immediately’ stop video recording of the JIT proceedings on Monday.

Hussain had also requested the Supreme Court to constitute an ‘independent commission’ headed by a retired or a sitting judge of the apex court to probe into the circumstances leading to the leak of his photograph on social media. The apex court’s three-judge special bench, headed by Justice Ejaz Afzal Khan, will take up Hussain’s plea tomorrow (Monday).

Panamagate: JIT complains of ‘impediments’ to probe

According to a source, the SC administration has taken special security measures for safe custody of the record related to investigation in the Panamagate case. A camera has been installed at the record room of the Registrar Office, which no is authorised to visit, except for the registrar.

The PTI is also said to be preparing a petition along with complete record to prove that the PML-N leadership is involved in campaigning against the apex court and the JIT. The petition will be filed on Monday.

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Bas ab decision do
 
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Sir that 60 million dollar figures you are talking about is pre presidentship ... after becoming president zardari starting occupying 10% shares of most of the businessman and thise who resisted were butchered through law .. eg khanani and kalia ...

However you might be right NS could still be the leader as he has unique way in which he even bring laws and regulations to support his corruption ...
each is ہم کسی سے کم نہیں۔ ایک سیر تم دوسرا سوا سیرپہلا اڈیڑھ سیر تو دوسرا دو۔ اور یہ ایک نہ ختم ہونے ہالی گنتی ہے

Panamagate probe: Govt fails to convince Qatari prince to appear before JIT
ISLAMABAD: The government has failed to convince Prince Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al Thani of Qatar to testify before the joint investigation team (JIT) probing into the offshore properties of the Sharif family.

Sources told The Express Tribune that Pakistan’s former attorney general Salman Aslam Butt and former chief of the defunct Ehtesab Bureau Saifur Rehman had been tasked to convince the Qatari royal to visit Pakistan for recording his statement before the JIT.

Subsequently, Butt had visited Qatar last week while Rehman is already stationed in the Arab state. However, both have failed to convince the prince, who had provided two letters to establish the money trail for the Sharif’s London properties during the hearing of the Panamagate case before the Supreme Court.
Panamagate JIT summons Qatari prince for second time

The JIT had sent two letters to the Qatari prince last month. In his reply, the prince had stated that he stood by the statement given in his letters presented before the Supreme Court.

However, a senior PML-N lawyer said the letter would not be enough to prove the money trial until the prince recorded his statement.

“The family has only less than a month to convince al Thani to record his statement,” he said, adding that Butt and Rehman were still making efforts to convince him to appear before the JIT via video link.

Qatari prince shows ‘inability’ to testify, but owns both letters

He said the legal team was also evolving an alternate strategy in case al Thani chose not to appear.

“Khawaja Haris advocate, who is supervising the family affairs before the JIT, will definitely make a plan to deal with the prevailing situation,” he added without going into detail.

A senior lawyer, who was part of the Sharifs’ legal team in the past, said no one could bind a foreigner to record a statement under the law. However, the top court has already asked the JIT to disregard the Qatari prince’s letter if he does not appear in person before the panel.

JIT’s letter delivered to Qatari prince

“The respondents [Sharif family] will have to face consequences if the prince fails to appear before the JIT,” the apex court’s three-judge bench had recently observed.

Meanwhile, sources said the JIT is considering summoning Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Finance Minister Ishaq Dar in the coming weeks.

In compliance with the Supreme Court’s order, the JIT has submitted a separate application to highlight the problems it has been facing during the investigation of the Sharifs’ offshore businesses.

After five appearances, Hussain Nawaz hopes JIT has finished questioning him

The application has been submitted by the JIT’s head Wajid Zia to the Supreme Court’s registrar. Legal experts say the ‘impediments’ the JIT has complained about relate to some departments that are not cooperating with the JIT.

The JIT will submit its reply with regard to Hussain Nawaz’s plea to direct the JIT members to ‘immediately’ stop video recording of the JIT proceedings on Monday.

Hussain had also requested the Supreme Court to constitute an ‘independent commission’ headed by a retired or a sitting judge of the apex court to probe into the circumstances leading to the leak of his photograph on social media. The apex court’s three-judge special bench, headed by Justice Ejaz Afzal Khan, will take up Hussain’s plea tomorrow (Monday).

Panamagate: JIT complains of ‘impediments’ to probe

According to a source, the SC administration has taken special security measures for safe custody of the record related to investigation in the Panamagate case. A camera has been installed at the record room of the Registrar Office, which no is authorised to visit, except for the registrar.

The PTI is also said to be preparing a petition along with complete record to prove that the PML-N leadership is involved in campaigning against the apex court and the JIT. The petition will be filed on Monday.

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Bas ab decision do
SC should kick on his hinder side. These noonis are weeping as if blueprints of Hussain Nawaz has leaked. In fact this picture should have been released officially by JIT to show that HN appeared in JIT or PMLN for fair investigation and was not having good time in judicial academy.
 
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@Farah Sohail - ur wish to summon Nawaz & Baji is coming soon in cinema of Judicial Academy :)

PM flew to Lahore - any news coming out from Lahore re his planned resignation?

PMLN is all set for division after his disqualification, resignation can potentially delay the destruction.

@bold.... I really hope so.. I wish ke ye inke KSA jaanay se pehlay hi hojaye..before last 10 days of Ramzan..
Warna phir inka aana bhtt mushkil hojayega..

I hope Nawaz Sharif doesnt resign... I hope hawks in PML N again prevail and prevent him for resignation... I want him to face maximum humiliation by getting disqualified from SC
 
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What's the grapevine today in Pak?

Hearing not so promising news re Panama case - one of my contacts today termed it as Festival Fiasco.
 
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Actually, Dr Shahid Masood's worth is ZERO.

He says something one day, and exactly the opposite next day. Then, in the end, he says "see I was right".

If JIT has been "managed" then be sure that SC has been managed as well - there is no sign of it as yet.

P.S. - Is it possible that Dr Shahid Masood has been "managed" ?

Well, he has just warned them. Can you deny that NS and his govt is exerting pressure on JIT and of couyrse before putting pressure, they offer huge bribes?.

The pattern is the JIT is wasting a lot of time. I think 4 hours of questioning to Hussain Nawaz should have been more than sufficient but they spent 40 hrs. They have been given unlimited authority by the SC so they can put names of the culprits in ECL, they can use police or other LEA to arrest anyone etc.
They are keeping everyithing secret and when things are kept secret...normally something fishy is going on people start speculating and given the historical trend in the country, it always results in some dreadful stuff.

This case has been taken up by the SC under the act of interest of public rule 183/4. All the court proceedings were thus made public and JIT initially stated that they will reguarly make press releases but they haven't done any of that yet.

In addition, the history of Pakistani bureaucracy is not that stellar that we close our eyes and fall asleep and wakeup to find that our ship has coasted safely. We have to be vigilant and that's exactly what Dr Shahid Masood has done..I believe that he has got some strong evidence from a credible source.
 
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