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Lanat ha aisi stability per jis ki waja sa aik chor ko app moqa da raha hain kah woh mazeed chori or corruption kera or abb to waisa he BS chori or corruption sa bohat aga nikal gaya ha or us ka lia ghadari or corruption main faraq he nahi rah gaya. Agar kisi ko yakeen nahi atta to jo ICJ main hua ha usa he dekh lain. Yeh kaisa ho sakta ha kah koi sensible government pannel main aik Indian judge ki majoodgi per aitraz na kera? To be this was the game plan to begin with and the same was conveyed to Modi through Jindal that you put your judge in the tribunal, we will not object, once the decision will come against Pakistan (which was a must after this) the pressure will automatically be built upon army to either suspend his sentence or face international condemnation etc.
So whoever is responsible for this arrangement is equally complicit in what will happen in the future and its impact on Pakistan. Army, SC will equally be responsible since the above cannot happen without their nod and consent.

Sir aap samajh nahi rahay yeh aik non popular lekin realistic faisla sabit hoga mulk o qoom ke liay aap please samjhen is baat ko.

i dont think these two tweets are contradictory to each other.. In the sec tweet , he says JIT is pre arranged...what i understand from this tweet is tht he is saying tht NRO is already done on panama JIT...

But Waj Khan is very very pro NS.... Thts why I was thinking tht whether we should trust his tweet or not?

It could be other way around as well, i mean aisa bhi hosakta hai ke JIT pre arranged ho in a way ijaz ul hassan will give decision against nawaz after JIT report, yeh bhi aik possibility ho sakti hai
 
It could be other way around as well, i mean aisa bhi hosakta hai ke JIT pre arranged ho in a way ijaz ul hassan will give decision against nawaz after JIT report, yeh bhi aik possibility ho sakti hai

Waisy Justice Ijazul Ahsan se mujhe umeed tu hai ke woh NS ke against faisla de deinnge... Lekin ye baat ke "kisi ne" jaan boojh kar aisi arrangement ki hai JIT ki... Is par mujhe aitebar nahi.. Aaj kal jo halaat aur actions chal rahay hain, "kisi ke" us se tu aisa door door tak nahi lagta
 
Waisy Justice Ijazul Ahsan se mujhe umeed tu hai ke woh NS ke against faisla de deinnge... Lekin ye baat ke "kisi ne" jaan boojh kar aisi arrangement ki hai JIT ki... Is par mujhe aitebar nahi.. Aaj kal jo halaat aur actions chal rahay hain, "kisi ke" us se tu aisa door door tak nahi lagta

kia keh saktay hain, things are not looking bright at all. :sleep:
 
Panama leaks is the final sign for me.. after that.. goodbye..

KY ko kuchh nahi hona.. na uss ne wapis India jana hai, aur na phansi charhna hai..

Kisi Jail mate ke haathon shayad mara jaey kuttay ki maut woh alag baat hai..
I am bound by my parents and beauty of Kashmir otherwise I would have already moved to Canada instead of living in a country being ruled by vile Sharif Family. My software business would flourish much more there. Still going to visit USA for speaking at a tech conference in this fall and will say hello to Godfathers of local Godfather.
 
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Monday ko JIT ki first report aayegi... What are u guys expecting from first report of JIT?

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Not expecting much. Judges will probably ask them to separate unverified docs from verified ones, and send them for authentication.

It might be decided to not go for verification as well, as it may take more time. They may also decide to not use hudaibiya as it has been contested by the other party. So whatever is left there (unchallenged) should be used only.

This is the only way to complete work in 60 days. Now it will be on Justice Aijaz ul Ahsan to decide whether God is more important for him or the godfather.
 
Not expecting much. Judges will probably ask them to separate unverified docs from verified ones, and send them for authentication.

It might be decided to not go for verification as well, as it may take more time. They may also decide to not use hudaibiya as it has been contested by the other party. So whatever is left there (unchallenged) should be used only.

This is the only way to complete work in 60 days. Now it will be on Justice Aijaz ul Ahsan to decide whether God is more important for him or the godfather.

Who callenged hudaibiya? Us par tu aaj tak case hi nahi chala.. Aur phir Ishaq dar ka confessional statement? Plus SC in its TOR had already asked JIT to use FIA, NAB and all other reports available.. So hudaibya tu use hona chahye..

But we are still back to the basic question... We are still not sure, tht whether Justice Khosa and zgulzar's vote will count or nota. And tht whether we need only one more judge for disqualification? Jab tak is ka jawab nahi milay ...hum kuch nahi keh saktay.. Kahan se pata karein ye baat?

Plus.. Monday ko judges ke remarks bhi dekhnay hain.. Last hearing main advicate ne jo IK ke baaray mian kaha tha...dekhtay hain..ab woh mazeed kia farmaan jari kartay hain?

Honestly speaking i am not expecting much either, verification of documents and limiting the scope of investigation to london flats and all, nothing more.

Hmm... You are right.. Bas yahan tak hi scope rakhein

Kisi ko pata hai ke SC main summer vacations kab se kab tak hoti hain? Kahin phir se break na aajaye, proceedings main..jo har 15 days baad honi hain?
 
Who callenged hudaibiya? Us par tu aaj tak case hi nahi chala.. Aur phir Ishaq dar ka confessional statement? Plus SC in its TOR had already asked JIT to use FIA, NAB and all other reports available.. So hudaibya tu use hona chahye..

But we are still back to the basic question... We are still not sure, tht whether Justice Khosa and zgulzar's vote will count or nota. And tht whether we need only one more judge for disqualification? Jab tak is ka jawab nahi milay ...hum kuch nahi keh saktay.. Kahan se pata karein ye baat?

Plus.. Monday ko judges ke remarks bhi dekhnay hain.. Last hearing main advicate ne jo IK ke baaray mian kaha tha...dekhtay hain..ab woh mazeed kia farmaan jari kartay hain?



Hmm... You are right.. Bas yahan tak hi scope rakhein

Kisi ko pata hai ke SC main summer vacations kab se kab tak hoti hain? Kahin phir se break na aajaye, proceedings main..jo har 15 days baad honi hain?


Ishaq Dar challenged his confessional statement. Court will rather decide to not involve itself in investigation of his confessional statement.

Plus not all the docs attached in hudaibiya are attested ones. :)
 
Ishaq Dar challenged his confessional statement. Court will rather decide to not involve itself in investigation of his confessional statement.

Plus not all the docs attached in hudaibiya are attested ones. :)

JIT has decided to record statements of former NAB officials..in hudaibya case.. I think jin ke saamnay Ishaq dar ne confessional statement diya tha..us se related NAB officials ke statements record honge... Tu Ishaq dar ke confessional statement ki authenticity tu is se hi saamnay aajayegi

And what abt Rehman Malik's report? Uska koi zikr nahi aaya, ab tak
 
JIT has decided to record statements of former NAB officials..in hudaibya case.. I think jin ke saamnay Ishaq dar ne confessional statement diya tha..us se related NAB officials ke statements record honge... Tu Ishaq dar ke confessional statement ki authenticity tu is se hi saamnay aajayegi

And what abt Rehman Malik's report? Uska koi zikr nahi aaya, ab tak

Doesn't matter what JIT decides, only matters what the bench decides.
 
Doesn't matter what JIT decides, only matters what the bench decides.

But if JIT confirms authenticity of Ishaq Dar's confessional statement...phir tu bench ko usay consider karna hi paray ga? Phir court us statement ko kaisy reject karay gi?

Plus..wohi baat phir se.. Do we really need only more vote for NS disqualification? Yeh baat kab confirm higi aur kahan se?
 
JIT begins recording statements in Panamagate

The Joint Investigation Team (JIT), formed in line with the Supreme Court’s April 20 verdict in the Panamagate case, on Thursday formally started recording statements of individuals in connection with a probe into the Sharif family’s offshore assets.

Pakistani member of the International Consortium of Investigation Journalists (ICIJ) Umar Cheema was the first to appear and record his statement before the six-member JIT.

Cheema was part of the ICIJ team that unearthed the Panama scandal. According to a source, Cheema was questioned about the leaked documents, their authenticity and the process of compiling a final report by the ICIJ.

The source said the JIT had sent letters to some individuals related to the scandal directly or indirectly, requesting them to appear before it for recording statements. The requests had been dispatched by the JIT on May 15.

However, according to the source, no such letter had been sent to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif or any of his family members named in the scandal. He said the JIT was preparing a detailed questionnaire for the prime minister and his sons, based on their statements in the media and the Supreme Court.

The JIT, which held its first meeting on May 8, is scheduled to submit its first fortnight report to the three-judge implementation bench of the Supreme Court on its next hearing on May 22.

Through the report, the JIT would inform the court about the progress made so far in the investigations as per the directives of the apex court.

According to the JIT’s terms of reference, devised by the Supreme Court, the probe body would find out answers to the questions, including: how the Gulf Steel Mill came into being, what led to its sale, and what happened to its liabilities; how come they reached Jeddah, Qatar and the UK; whether Hussain and Hassan Nawaz had the means in the early 1990s to possess and purchase the London flats; whether the sudden appearance of letters by Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jaber Al-Thani is a myth or a reality; who is the real and beneficial owner of the Nielsen Enterprises Ltd and Nescoll Ltd; how Hill Metal Establishment came into existence; from where the money came for Flagship Investment Ltd and other companies set up or taken over by the son of the PM; and from where the huge sums gifted by Hussain Nawaz to Nawaz Sharif came.

Earlier, the JIT decided to hire the services of a UK-based audit firm for forensic audits in order to validate the information the Sharif family had submitted about its London properties.

JIT member Bilal Rasool, who represents the Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan in the six-man probe committee, has been tasked to search some suitable firm for the purpose.

It was decided that the inquiry team would only treat authenticated and certified copies of relevant record as ‘admissible evidence’. The decision was taken after the JIT members scrutinised the 17-year-old records of Hudaibya Paper Mills and other related documents, submitted by the National Accountability Bureau that were not certified.

The JIT also scrutinised the record of tax returns of Prime Minister Sharif. In addition, the members examined the asset statements filed by the prime minister and his son-in-law for the period between 2013 and 2016 by the Election Commission of Pakistan.

It was also decided that within the ongoing week, the JIT would write to the Foreign Office to contact foreign countries to obtain certified record of the Sharif family’s properties and offshore companies.
 
+what happend in dawn leaks case was a trailer= zero bata zero
panama case = also zero bata zero
and yadhav case = zero bata zero
what can be the lowest level of humility for a pakistani lay man...........or law man
 
Bold is red is most important - IF JIT follows through that path. Result of just that question/issue has potential to finish the politics of $harif for ever. But there is a big IF.

Hmm.. You are right.. This news came few days ago, tht JIT has decided to hire a British audit firm, to validate documents..

Also this news came, tht JIT has decided to record statements of ex NAB officials in reference to Ishaq dar's confession and hudaibya case.. If ex NAB confirm in their statements tht Ishaq Dar wasn not forced at all, and he gave tht confessional statement, on his own will..in front of magistrate, it also has the potential to finish Sharif's politics..

But then, we are again back to first question.. How many more votes do we need now..to get Nawaz Sharif disqualified?
 
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