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[PakSword]

Bhai that is why it is stressed in our religion to feed the family the halal rizq and do not let them eat, hear and see/watch "the haram".

When kids grow up watching Pogo and other brain damaging materials, they are bound to have disabled and confused personalities.

لیکن جنرل باجوہ تو پوگو دیکھ کر جوان نہیں ہوا ہوگا نا ! پھر کیوں بہکی بہکی حرکتیں کر رہا ہے ​

 

[Farah Sohail]

Kia mazaq hai!

آج ویسے ہم لوگ انٹرنیشنل کورٹ میں طبیعت سے ذلیل ہوئے ہیں


سود خور قوم کا یہی انجام ہوتا ہے

پورا ملک سودی قرضوں پہ چل رہا ہے

پوری قوم بھی سودی قرضوں میں ڈوبی ہوئی ہے

یہی ہونا ہے، یہی قسمت ہے

sood khor qoum aur jo taqatwaron ko chor dein aur aam aadmi par qanoon laagoo karey... tu who qoumein tabah hoti hain.. na hum sood par Islamic ruling ko maantay hain, na hum taqatwaron ko saza detay hain, na hum qasas ko maantay hain... phir kia umeed rakhtay hain?

Ye Gen Bajwa har guzartay din ke saath..humari mayoosi aur depression main izafa kartay jaarahay hain.. ye SC ke judges ki tarah rona ronay se kuch nahi hoga ke hum par tanqeed na karo..

Hum aaj tak SC aur apni judiciary ko kiun criticize kartay rahay hian? ke reamrks achay detay hian but when time comes for decision..they chicken out.. Courts ka kaam insaf dena hota hai... rona ya remarks dena nahi.. Soceity main zulm par public tu bebasi ka izhar karsakti hai, lekin courts ka yeh kaam nahi.. unka kaam society se zulm khatam karna hai.. aur jab who kuch nahi kartay, sirf remarks detay hain, then we criticize them

Ab army leadership bhi...following their footsteps? then they should expect similar public reaction and sentiment for them..as it is generally towards courts..that is...no respect... however, I feel bad for ordinary soldiers..who are sacrificing their lives for Pakistan..

 

[El Sidd]

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[PakSword]

sood khor qoum aur jo taqatwaron ko chor dein aur aam aadmi par qanoon laagoo karey... tu who qoumein tabah hoti hain.. na hum sood par Islamic ruling ko maantay hain, na hum taqatwaron ko saza detay hain, na hum qasas ko maantay hain... phir kia umeed rakhtay hain?

Ye Gen Bajwa har guzartay din ke saath..humari mayoosi aur depression main izafa kartay jaarahay hain.. ye SC ke judges ki tarah rona ronay se kuch nahi hoga ke hum par tanqeed na karo..

Hum aaj tak SC aur apni judiciary ko kiun criticize kartay rahay hian? ke reamrks achay detay hian but when time comes for decision..they chicken out.. Courts ka kaam insaf dena hota hai... rona ya remarks dena nahi.. Soceity main zulm par public tu bebasi ka izhar karsakti hai, lekin courts ka yeh kaam nahi.. unka kaam society se zulm khatam karna hai.. aur jab who kuch nahi kartay, sirf remarks detay hain, then we criticize them

Ab army leadership bhi...following their footsteps? then they should expect similar public reaction and sentiment for them..as it is generally towards courts..that is...no respect... however, I feel bad for ordinary soldiers..who are sacrificing their lives for Pakistan..

میں پھر وہی ضرب المثل دہراؤں گا - کہ جیسے لوگ ویسے حکمران

جب تک لوگ تبدیل نہیں ہونگے، الله ہماری حالت نہیں بدلے گا، اور ایسے ہی حکمران ہم پر مسلط رہیں گے

جو اچھے لوگ ہیں، وہ یا تو پاکستان میں ہیں ہی نہیں، یا پاکستان سے نکلنے کے چکّر میں ہیں

کچھ نہیں ہوسکتا ​

 

[Farah Sohail]

میں پھر وہی ضرب المثل دہراؤں گا - کہ جیسے لوگ ویسے حکمران

جب تک لوگ تبدیل نہیں ہونگے، الله ہماری حالت نہیں بدلے گا، اور ایسے ہی حکمران ہم پر مسلط رہیں گے

جو اچھے لوگ ہیں، وہ یا تو پاکستان میں ہیں ہی نہیں، یا پاکستان سے نکلنے کے چکّر میں ہیں

کچھ نہیں ہوسکتا ​

I don't agree with this logic.. top leadership theek hogi..tu trickle down effect hoga.. atleast logon main hope hogi aur morale acha hoga...if top leadership is honest.. compare the situation of Pakistan, with 6 months ago... sirf morale check karein logon ka...

jab top ke log hi NRO ko promote karein ge tu log corrupt kiun nahi honge?

 

[war&peace]

لیکن جنرل باجوہ تو پوگو دیکھ کر جوان نہیں ہوا ہوگا نا ! پھر کیوں بہکی بہکی حرکتیں کر رہا ہے ​

lolzzz well different times, different tools but the same theme. I don't know why he can't make straight decisions and seems to lack the courage or it is part of some strategy.

But I can tell you about the ideal upbringing i.e. Allama Iqbal was raised by his parents by teaching his Holy Quran in the young age, he also read "Bostan-e-Sadi" and "Gulistan-e-Sadi", learned Persian and even Arabic. Then became a lawyer and even did PhD (Doctorate) and results are known to the whole world and he is known as the philosopher and the thinker behind Pakistan movement. His dream materialised into Pakistan.

 

[PakSword]

qasas ko maantay hain...

میں ویسے قصاص کو مانتا ہوں، لیکن اس نیچ ہندو کو لٹکنے سے پہلے سڑتے ہے دیکھنا چاہتا ہوں ​

 

[Farah Sohail]

میں ویسے قصاص کو مانتا ہوں، لیکن اس نیچ ہندو کو لٹکنے سے پہلے سڑتے ہے دیکھنا چاہتا ہوں ​

usay sartey huay dekhnay se pehlay hi...woh wapis India jaa kar araam farmaa raha hoga aur hum sab ko sartay huay dekhay ga..

 

[PakSword]

lolzzz well different times, different tools but the same theme. I don't know why he can't make straight decisions and seems to lack the courage or it is part of some strategy.

But I can tell you about the ideal upbringing i.e. Allama Iqbal was raised by his parents by teaching his Holy Quran in the young age, he also read "Bostan-e-Sadi" and "Gulistan-e-Sadi", learned Persian and even Arabic. Then became a lawyer and even did PhD (Doctorate) and results are known to the whole world and he is known as the philosopher and the thinker behind Pakistan movement. His dream materialised into Pakistan.

Ahaa.. kia yaad diladia.. Bostan aur Gulistan..

ابھی میں نے پاکستان سے اردو کی پہلی، دوسری اور تیسری کتاب منگوائی ہے

آپ سب کو اس کے ایک ورق کی تصویر بھیجونگا

اس میں ایک کہانی لکھی ہے کسی محلے کی، جہاں گندگی بہت تھی

پھر ایک آدمی سب کو مشورہ دیتا ہے کہ بلدیہ کا انتظار کرنے سے بہتر ہے کہ ہم خود صفائی کریں. اور پھر سارا محلہ چندہ اکھٹا کرتا ہے اور صفائی کرواتا ہے

یہ تو سکھا رہے ہیں ہمارے بچوں کو، کہ بجے اس کے کہ بلدیہ کے ایڈمنسٹریٹر کے گھر کے سامنے جا کر دھرنا دے کر بیٹھ جاؤ کیوں کہ ہم ٹیکس دیتے ہیں اور صفائی ہمارا حق ہے، الٹا چندہ اکھٹا کروارہے ہیں

لعنت ایسی تدریس پہ​

 

[war&peace]

I don't agree with this logic.. top leadership theek hogi..tu trickle down effect hoga.. atleast logon main hop hogi aur morale acha hoga...if top leadership is honest.. comare the situation of Pakistan, with 6 months ago... sirf morale check karein logon ka...

jab top ke log hi NRO ko promote karein ge tu log corrupt kiun nahi honge?

I normally ask the people who subscribe to this theory that what about Arabs and their transformation after the Holy Prophet (ﷺ). Did all Arabs become pious and good when Holy Prophet (ﷺ) was born, and the answer is simply no..
The great leader changed everything...because he was honest, truthful and Allah's Prophet.
Though there is no new Prophet to come after him, honest and upright scholars and leaders will succeed him and they do from time to time.

A person who is truthful and honest can transform the society. Allama Iqbal and Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah are two such examples and role models for us to follow. IK is the best option we got today and he is closest to these role models in our politics.

 

[Dastaan]

میں ویسے قصاص کو مانتا ہوں، لیکن اس نیچ ہندو کو لٹکنے سے پہلے سڑتے ہے دیکھنا چاہتا ہوں ​

ye araam sai raha ho jai ga sab ko maloom hai murree main kya SAHI OR GHAIR MAQBOOL FAISLA hua tha.dawn leaks par main bhi pehlay tactical retreat samjta raha lekin aaj pata chala wo to sahi wala faisla tha us ko baqaida defend kiya ja raha hai..

 

[Farah Sohail]

I normally ask the people who subscribe to this theory that what about Arabs and their transformation after the Holy Prophet (ﷺ). Did all Arabs become pious and good when Holy Prophet (ﷺ) was born, and the answer is simply no..
The great leader changed everything...because he was honest, truthful and Allah's Prophet.
Though there is no new Prophet to come after him, honest and upright scholars and leaders will succeed him and they do from time to time.

A person who is truthful and honest can transform the society. Allama Iqbal and Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah are two such examples and role models for us to follow. IK is the best option we got today and he is closest to these role models in our politics.

I want Justice Khosa to join politics after his retirement .. he is a GEM really

Well.. in current scenario.. yes IK is better

 

[PakSword]

I don't agree with this logic.. top leadership theek hogi..tu trickle down effect hoga.. atleast logon main hope hogi aur morale acha hoga...if top leadership is honest.. compare the situation of Pakistan, with 6 months ago... sirf morale check karein logon ka...

jab top ke log hi NRO ko promote karein ge tu log corrupt kiun nahi honge?

Sorry I disagree.

We elect our rulers. Our nation is corrupt to the core and that's why our people elect their own kind.

Leadership comes from within us.. Allah doesn't send the leadership from Mars.

What you are talking about is a short time solution. Bring someone from outside, but when he will leave, we will again become animals.

Have you not seen that we Urdu Speaking used to elect MQM, despite the goons killing the people who voted for them?

Sindhis elect PPPP and Punjab elects PMLN despite they snatched everything from the people?

Aur yeh tou Quran bhi kehta hai ke Allah uss qaum ki halat nahi badalta jo khud na badalna chahti ho..


Quran 13:11

For each one are successive [angels] before and behind him who protect him by the decree of Allah . Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves. And when Allah intends for a people ill, there is no repelling it. And there is not for them besides Him any patron.

 

[war&peace]

I want Justice Khosa to join politics after his retirement .. he is a GEM really

Well.. in current scenario.. yes IK is better

Well I want to see justice Khosa as CJ and IK as prime minister. They together can scrap this mafia of corruption and system-quo that spans politics, military, bureaucracy and all other professions and trades.
Furthermore, Justice Khosa can work on reforming the judicial system and IK can provide him the legal support through the parliament and Exective. Pakistan can be transformed in matter of months. People will breath the difference.

Sorry I disagree.

We elect our rulers. Our nation is corrupt to the core and that's why our people elect their own kind.

Leadership comes from within us.. Allah doesn't send the leadership from Mars.

What you are talking about is a short time solution. Bring someone from outside, but when he will leave, we will again become animals.

Have you not seen that we Urdu Speaking used to elect MQM, despite the goons killing the people who voted for them?

Sindhis elect PPPP and Punjab elects PMLN despite they snatched everything from the people?

Aur yeh tou Quran bhi kehta hai ke Allah uss qaum ki halat nahi badalta jo khud na badalna chahti ho..


Quran 13:11

For each one are successive [angels] before and behind him who protect him by the decree of Allah . Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves. And when Allah intends for a people ill, there is no repelling it. And there is not for them besides Him any patron.

Because we have accepted this crippled and intrinsically flawed system of western. democracy.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Sorry I disagree.

We elect our rulers. Our nation is corrupt to the core and that's why our people elect their own kind.

Leadership comes from within us.. Allah doesn't send the leadership from Mars.

What you are talking about is a short time solution. Bring someone from outside, but when he will leave, we will again become animals.

Have you not seen that we Urdu Speaking used to elect MQM, despite the goons killing the people who voted for them?

Sindhis elect PPPP and Punjab elects PMLN despite they snatched everything from the people?

Aur yeh tou Quran bhi kehta hai ke Allah uss qaum ki halat nahi badalta jo khud na badalna chahti ho..


Quran 13:11

For each one are successive [angels] before and behind him who protect him by the decree of Allah . Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves. And when Allah intends for a people ill, there is no repelling it. And there is not for them besides Him any patron.

I agree with what Quran says... lekin kabhi kabhi Allah meherban bhi hojata hai... like we did get Quaid e Azam and Allama Iqbal, right?
Main chahti hoon ke ek dafa honest leadership aajaye.. tu bhi bhttt cheezein better hongi...

Well I want to see justice Khosa as CJ and IK as prime minister. They together can scrap this mafia of corruption and system-quo that spans politics, military, bureaucracy and all other professions and trades.
Furthermore, Justice Khosa can work on reforming the judicial system and IK can provide him the legal support through the parliament and Exective. Pakistan can be transformed in matter of months. People will breath the difference.
.

What will Justice Khosa be able to do alone as CJ? He will be just one among many judges.. an example of which is panama verdict.. was he able to get NS disqualified despite being the head of this bench? No... in courts.. only majority counts...
At max.. he will try to implement judicial reforms...as CJ.. but I think.. 11 months is a very short time period for tht too...