Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[Dil Pakistan]

In March/ April, they decided (or not decided, but spread the rumor only) to arrest the people as soon as they are notified on the result of Dawn Leaks commission report..

PMLN/ NS knew about it.. and that's why they tried to punish the people in their own way.. which irked Army.. that how come you punish the people? You just recommend, and identify, rest is on us..

But uss ke baad foreign players maidan main aagaey.. aur PA has to go back to the defensive mode..



JIT tou 13 questions pe kaam kar rahi hai..

Yeh poochain abb SC se kia ummeedain hain..

SC nahi choray gi NS ko..

O! - OK, thank you.

 

[PakSword]

Advocate aur pakora ko bhool gaye aap...shayad? Agar bhool gaye tu advocate ki verdict phir se parh kar khud ko yaad dilaa dein.. Kia likha tha advocate ne...ke its not reqd by law..for PM to dosclose assets or the means through which they were acquired? Pakora judge tu legal aur moral honesty main phans gaye..

Jab tak ye clear nahi hoga ke Justice Khosa aur Gulzar ke votes count honge ya nahi?mtab tak kuch nahi kahaa jasakta

Day before yesterday, did you listen to the call made by "an institution's officer" to Absar Alam?

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Nahi chootaingay.. in shaa Allah..

Acha.. let me ask a question..

If you are an Army chief, and you got to know that the PM of your country is going to ask you to sack your major general, on a charge for which you were responsible.. and you hurriedly explore the options:

1 - Ask PM to resign
2 - impose Martial Law
3 - take tweet back and vow to take revenge at a different place

You also know that the purpose of this order from PM is to get a disproportionate reaction from your side.. i.e. 1 or 2.. so that PMs support in public, media and SC increases many folds..

What will you do?

Number 4 - jan boojh key bongee maree hey.

 

[PakSword]

Number 4 - jan boojh key bongee maree hey.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Dawn Leaks ka badla Panama Leaks main bhi tou lia jasakta hai? Ya nahi?

SC ke kandhay pe rakh kar goli chalana...........

Actually, it is a matter "to cut it open from one side" (whichever side it may be). After that PMLn will run for cover and then you can make as many cuts as you like.

It is the "first cut" that matters, and I agree that it will be from SC.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Nahi chootaingay.. in shaa Allah..

Acha.. let me ask a question..

If you are an Army chief, and you got to know that the PM of your country is going to ask you to sack your major general, on a charge for which you were responsible.. and you hurriedly explore the options:

1 - Ask PM to resign
2 - impose Martial Law
3 - take tweet back and vow to take revenge at a different place

You also know that the purpose of this order from PM is to get a disproportionate reaction from your side.. i.e. 1 or 2.. so that PMs support in public, media and SC increases many folds..

What will you do?

Main tu yeh kehti hun ke lagta hai ke army...as an instituition ...bhi aisy react karti hai...jaisy koi bacha... Furan naraz hotay hain aur fauran maan jatay hain?

Pehli baat tu yeh hai ke 6th oct ko jab ye story aayi thee..us ke baad jab Corp Comm conference hui thee.. Inhon ne us waqt sab options discuss kiye honge?? Ke hum kahan tak jaa saktay hain aur kahan tak nahi?? Right? Us waqt inhein apni limitations pata chal chuki hongi...discussion ke baad..ke hum main culprits ko arrest nahi karsaktay.....tu iss issue ki itni hype crreate karni hi nahi chahye thee.. Bas iss story ke baad ek denial govt ki taraf se aajat...ek ISPR ki taraf se...aur baat khatam kar dete.. Aaj dawn leaks ko sab bhool chukay hotay thay... Hum bhi samajhtay ke ek ordinary story thee.. Denial se Baat khatam hogayi.. Hype inhon ne khud create ki..

Corps Comm press release main kaha gay ke breach of national security hogayi..qayamat aagayi...pata nahin kiya hogaya? Hum inki baaton main aagaye

Abb ye 1st may wali tweet dekh lein... Uss waqt bhi yehi notification aaya tha..aur us waqt bhi background main cheezein settle ho chuki theen.. Us waqt itna react karnay ki kia zuroorat thee? Kiun shor machaaya? Ke notification is rejected? Thora thanday dil se ghaur kar letay.. Kia yeh itna bachay hain ke inhein nahi pata tha ke notification is rejected ka media par..ya govt ki taraf se kia reaction aasakta hai? Uss notification ko uss waqt hi accept kar letay.. Us din ke aur aaj ke notfication main kia farq hai?? Aisa kiya hogaya raaton raat? Agar 1 st may ko accept kar lete tuus waqt ziada acha hota...ya ab tweet wapis le kar??

Aur ab jin 3 logon ko mention kiya hai notification main..aur 1st may ko bhi kiya tha.. In names par tu pehlay week ya month main issue settke hosakta tha.. 7 months tak kiun latkaaya??

Khud hype create karte hain aur jab uss hype ki wajah se public koi action ..expect karay tu phir public ko blame kartay hain? Kia public ko bilkol hi pagal samajh liya hai inhon ne? Ye tu politicians se bhi ziada public ko bewaqoof samajhtay hain...aur end main public ko blame kar dena sab se asaan hai

@PakSword

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Nahi chootaingay.. in shaa Allah..

Acha.. let me ask a question..

If you are an Army chief, and you got to know that the PM of your country is going to ask you to sack your major general, on a charge for which you were responsible.. and you hurriedly explore the options:

1 - Ask PM to resign
2 - impose Martial Law
3 - take tweet back and vow to take revenge at a different place

You also know that the purpose of this order from PM is to get a disproportionate reaction from your side.. i.e. 1 or 2.. so that PMs support in public, media and SC increases many folds..

What will you do?

Did it really go that far? ...that NS was about to ask the COAS to sack DG-ISPR .....

Main tu yeh kehti hun ke lagta hai ke army...as an instituition ...bhi aisy react karti hai...jaisy koi bacha... Furan naraz hotay hain aur fauran maan jatay hain?

Pehli baat tu yeh hai ke 6th oct ko jab ye story aayi thee..us ke baad jab Corp Comm conference hui thee.. Inhon ne us waqt sab options discuss kiye honge?? Ke hum kahan tak jaa saktay hain aur kahan tak nahi?? Right? Us waqt inhein apni limitations pata chal chuki hongi...discussion ke baad..ke hum main culprits ko arrest nahi karsaktay.....tu iss issue ki itni hype crreate karni hi nahi chahye thee.. Bas iss story ke baad ek denial govt ki taraf se aajat...ek ISPR ki taraf se...aur baat khatam kar dete.. Aaj dawn leaks ko sab bhool chukay hotay thay... Hum bhi samajhtay ke ek ordinary story thee.. Denial se Baat khatam hogayi.. Hype inhon ne khud create ki..

Corps Comm press release main kaha gay ke breach of national security hogayi..qayamat aagayi...pata nahin kiya hogaya? Hum inki baaton main aagaye

Abb ye 1st may wali tweet dekh lein... Uss waqt bhi yehi notification aaya tha..aur us waqt bhi background main cheezein settle ho chuki theen.. Us waqt itna react karnay ki kia zuroorat thee? Kiun shor machaaya? Ke notification is rejected? Thora thanday dil se ghaur kar letay.. Kia yeh itna bachay hain ke inhein nahi pata tha ke notification is rejected ka media par..ya govt ki taraf se kia reaction aasakta hai? Uss notification ko uss waqt hi accept kar letay.. Us din ke aur aaj ke notfication main kia farq hai?? Aisa kiya hogaya raaton raat? Agar 1 st may ko accept kar lete tuus waqt ziada acha hota...ya ab tweet wapis le kar??

Aur ab jin 3 logon ko mention kiya hai notification main..aur 1st may ko bhi kiya tha.. In names par tu pehlay week ya month main issue settke hosakta tha.. 7 months tak kiun latkaaya??

Khud hype create karte hain aur jab uss hype ki wajah se public koi action ..expect karay tu phir public ko blame kartay hain? Kia public ko bilkol hi pagal samajh liya hai inhon ne? Ye tu politicians se bhi ziada public ko bewaqoof samajhtay hain...aur end main public ko blame kar dena sab se asaan hai

Who din gaye meri behan, who din gaye.
Army is acting super-maturely.
This is a veeerrrrryy loonngg term planning....isee liyey itna sabar bhi hey.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Did it really go that far? ...that NS was about to ask the COAS to sack DG-ISPR .....



Who din gaye meri behan, who din gaye. Army is acting super-maturely. This is a veeerrrrryy loonngg term planning....isee liyey itna sabar bhi hey.

Ufff meri post ka matlab hi nahi samjhaa aap ne.. Main keh rahi hun ke dawn leaks story par itna hype create karnay ki zuroorat hi nahi thee....shuru main hi.. Us waqt hi inhein apnay options calculate karnay chahye thay aur uske baad response dena chahye tha.. Ye nahi ke national security breach keh diya ..qayamat machaa di..aur uske baad 7 months baad yeh nikla ke apni tweet wapis le li..

Pehle hi din jab ye story aayi thee...tab ek ISPR ki taraf se denial aajata..ek govt ki taraf se...aur us waqt hi baat khatam kar dete.. Itna hype create karnay ki kia zurorat thee? Bachon ki tarah khud react kartay hain? ya public ko bilkol bewaqoof samajh rakha hai? @PakSword

 

[PakSword]

Main tu yeh kehti hun ke lagta hai ke army...as an instituition ...bhi aisy react karti hai...jaisy koi bacha... Furan naraz hotay hain aur fauran maan jatay hain?

Pehli baat tu yeh hai ke 6th oct ko jab ye story aayi thee..us ke baad jab Corp Comm conference hui thee.. Inhon ne us waqt sab options discuss kiye honge?? Ke hum kahan tak jaa saktay hain aur kahan tak nahi?? Right? Us waqt inhein apni limitations pata chal chuki hongi...discussion ke baad..ke hum main culprits ko arrest nahi karsaktay.....tu iss issue ki itni hype crreate karni hi nahi chahye thee.. Bas iss story ke baad ek denial govt ki taraf se aajat...ek ISPR ki taraf se...aur baat khatam kar dete.. Aaj dawn leaks ko sab bhool chukay hotay thay... Hum bhi samajhtay ke ek ordinary story thee.. Denial se Baat khatam hogayi.. Hype inhon ne khud create ki..

Corps Comm press release main kaha gay ke breach of national security hogayi..qayamat aagayi...pata nahin kiya hogaya? Hum inki baaton main aagaye

Abb ye 1st may wali tweet dekh lein... Uss waqt bhi yehi notification aaya tha..aur us waqt bhi background main cheezein settle ho chuki theen.. Us waqt itna react karnay ki kia zuroorat thee? Kiun shor machaaya? Ke notification is rejected? Thora thanday dil se ghaur kar letay.. Kia yeh itna bachay hain ke inhein nahi pata tha ke notification is rejected ka media par..ya govt ki taraf se kia reaction aasakta hai? Uss notification ko uss waqt hi accept kar letay.. Us din ke aur aaj ke notfication main kia farq hai?? Aisa kiya hogaya raaton raat? Agar 1 st may ko accept kar lete tuus waqt ziada acha hota...ya ab tweet wapis le kar??

Aur ab jin 3 logon ko mention kiya hai notification main..aur 1st may ko bhi kiya tha.. In names par tu pehlay week ya month main issue settke hosakta tha.. 7 months tak kiun latkaaya??

Khud hype create karte hain aur jab uss hype ki wajah se public koi action ..expect karay tu phir public ko blame kartay hain? Kia public ko bilkol hi pagal samajh liya hai inhon ne? Ye tu politicians se bhi ziada public ko bewaqoof samajhtay hain...aur end main public ko blame kar dena sab se asaan hai

@PakSword

Pressure bhi tou rakhna hota hai.. khuli chhutti nahi de saktay .. warna rozana aisi harkatain karaingay yeh hukumraan..

Acha agar yeh hype create na ki hoti aur har week aik khabar aanay lagti tou kia hota?

Aur iss hype ki wajah se Maryam (ya koi aur) dobara aisa karnay ka soch saktay hain?

Kia aap ko andaza hai ke pichlay 7 months, specially after May 1st, kaisay guzray hongay Maryam pe?

Kuchh strategic games hotay hain.. kuchh tactical games hotay hain, kuchh operational.. aur yeh na samjhain ke sari aql e kul PA main hai.. woh bhi hamari tarah insaan hain.. PMLN bhi strategy aur tactics wise halki nahi hai..

Yeh unn hi ki tou strategy hai ke Pakistan ko dependent kardia, maqrooz kardia.. jis se taqreeban economy maflooj hochuki?

PA main aur baqi parties ke strategists main farq yeh hai ke PA kafi disciplined organization hai.. political parties nahi hain..

Did it really go that far? ...that NS was about to ask the COAS to sack DG-ISPR .....

yes, NS decided to go all the way.. aap inn ke bayanaat parh lain pichlay kuchh dinon main SC aur Army ke khilaaf...

Maryam's media cell became hyper active.. Sold anchors started doing programs against PA..

Today, the presser by interior ministry was very important and we discussed the possibility of starting a new offendive on PA by the govt..

A couple of hours before that presser, COAS suddenly met PM and within half an hour, Ch, Nisar's presser postponed, and ISPR released a revised statement..

Abhi tak PMLN ko bhi nahi samajh aarahi ke kia hua hai.. unn ka plan tou offensive main janay ka tha.. aur IK ko establishment ka bacha qaraar dene ka tha takay awam ko yeh chooran becha jasakay ke Panama international and national establishment ki saazish hai, NS ke khilaaf aur IK inn ka mohra hai..

But sab dhara ka dhara reh gaya..

 

[Farah Sohail]

Pressure bhi tou rakhna hota hai.. khuli chhutti nahi de saktay .. warna rozana aisi harkatain karaingay yeh hukumraan..

Acha agar yeh hype create na ki hoti aur har week aik khabar aanay lagti tou kia hota?

Aur iss hype ki wajah se Maryam (ya koi aur) dobara aisa karnay ka soch saktay hain?

Kia aap ko andaza hai ke pichlay 7 months, specially after May 1st, kaisay guzray hongay Maryam pe?

Kuchh strategic games hotay hain.. kuchh tactical games hotay hain, kuchh operational.. aur yeh na samjhain ke sari aql e kul PA main hai.. woh bhi hamari tarah insaan hain.. PMLN bhi strategy aur tactics wise halki nahi hai..

Yeh unn hi ki tou strategy hai ke Pakistan ko dependent kardia, maqrooz kardia.. jis se taqreeban economy maflooj hochuki?

PA main aur baqi parties ke strategists main farq yeh hai ke PA kafi disciplined organization hai.. political parties nahi hain..

Main aaj agar Maryam ki jagah hoti...tu jesay aap ne kaha ke international establishment ki wajah se agar retreat kia hai.. Agar main aaj maryam ki jagah hoti... Tu aaj bhtt satisfied aur victorious feel karti.. Obv dawn leaks bhi soch samajh kar bhi ki hoti na main ne

Aur ab jab nazar bhi aaraha hai ke main har problem se nikal gayi aur mere future PM bannay ke bright chances hain....aap ka kia khyal hainke main dawn leaks aur aisi koi cheez dobara nahin karun gi?? Kia cheez mujhe rokay gi...aisa kuch dobara na attempt karnay se? Army ko surrender karaa diya.. International establishment mere saath hai.. Main tu ab jo karun ...woh kam hai .. Jis cheez par kisi ko phansi lag sakti thee.. Main us se nikal aayi aur future PM ban sakti hun..us ke baad mera next step kia hona chahye??

 

[Mansoon]

Only SC can remove Nawazooo now

 

[Dil Pakistan]

yes, NS decided to go all the way.. aap inn ke bayanaat parh lain pichlay kuchh dinon main SC aur Army ke khilaaf...

Maryam's media cell became hyper active.. Sold anchors started doing programs against PA..

Today, the presser by interior ministry was very important and we discussed the possibility of starting a new offendive on PA by the govt..

A couple of hours before that presser, COAS suddenly met PM and within half an hour, Ch, Nisar's presser postponed, and ISPR released a revised statement..

Abhi tak PMLN ko bhi nahi samajh aarahi ke kia hua hai.. unn ka plan tou offensive main janay ka tha.. aur IK ko establishment ka bacha qaraar dene ka tha takay awam ko yeh chooran becha jasakay ke Panama international and national establishment ki saazish hai, NS ke khilaaf aur IK inn ka mohra hai..

But sab dhara ka dhara reh gaya..

WOW! ... I am speechless.

 

[Verve]

Main keh rahi hun ke dawn leaks story par itna hype create karnay ki zuroorat hi nahi thee....shuru main hi..

The 'hype' was valid and needed. Public and rank knows the stance top brass took and that it wasn't brushed aside. And to avoid an imminent fight with PMLN is the right call and the ranks will understand that. There is wisdom in taking certain fights to certain limits, and battle hardened soldiers understand that better than most. This threat (by PMLN) can be neutralised in other ways too.

 

[PakSword]

WOW! ... I am speechless.

This is what we (I @Farah Sohail and probably @Verve were discussing)

Yeh tou GodFather ki shakist hogi.. He doesn't want this..

Yeh bhi hosakta hai ke Ch. Nisar Press conference main rona dhona kar ke kahain ke hum army chief se DG ISPR ko hatane ka mutalba kartay hain (ya hukum detey hain as constitutionally it is allowed).

Phir Gen. Bajwa ke paas 4 raastey hongay..

1 - DG ISPR ko hata dain
2 - Resign kardain (as he promised the officers that he would resign if he couldn't do anything)
3 - NS ko hatadain (iss ke 2 tareeqay hain.. either Martial Law (not possible at all) or put pressure on NS to resign (again NS siyasi shaheed hojaega)
4 - DG ISPR ko kahain ke apna notification wapis le lo and then take revenge through Panama JIT..

Agar main hota tou main number 4 karta..

ISPR ka notification jitna bhi acha lagay hamain, ghalat tha.. REJECTED word use nahi hona chahiey tha.. aur yeh Gen Bajwa ki manzoori se hi hua hoga..

Main aaj agar Maryam ki jagah hoti...tu jesay aap ne kaha ke international establishment ki wajah se agar retreat kia hai.. Agar main aaj maryam ki jagah hoti... Tu aaj bhtt satisfied aur victorious feel karti.. Obv dawn leaks bhi soch samajh kar bhi ki hoti na main ne

Aur ab jab nazar bhi aaraha hai ke main har problem se nikal gayi aur mere future PM bannay ke bright chances hain....aap ka kia khyal hainke main dawn leaks aur aisi koi cheez dobara nahin karun gi?? Kia cheez mujhe rokay gi...aisa kuch dobara na attempt karnay se? Army ko surrender karaa diya.. International establishment mere saath hai.. Main tu ab jo karun ...woh kam hai .. Jis cheez par kisi ko phansi lag sakti thee.. Main us se nikal aayi aur future PM ban sakti hun..us ke baad mera next step kia hona chahye??

Aaj tou maryam se retweet bhi nahi horahay.. lolll

Ask her what's she feeling? It will take a couple of days for the PMLN to understand ke kia hogaya inn ke saath..

 

[Mansoon]

Ask her what's she feeling? It will take a couple of days for the PMLN to understand ke kia hogaya inn ke saath..

No Siasi Shaheeds this time sorry