Palestine cancels 1995 Oslo Accords signed with Israel

[Saddam Hussein]

lets be honest throwing stones and doing pr stuff wont help them!

they are not gonna to leave or lets say to lessen their status quo.. if they dont want to loose it they wont gain anything... in my eyes even pkk rats have more guts..



one serious question! why should we have done something against israel? they did not take anything away from us (prior to recent histroy) you think turks have had to fight wars for the ones who stole their house? that sounds just ridiculous

I didn't say you have to do something, I am saying Turkey did not do anything against Israel other than vocal speeches. That was my point, that was all it's about.

Iran likewise, has not done shit. I do not recognize speeches. Iran makes threats all day, as for the ballistic missile launch in Iraq. Iraq would have caused a lot more damage to Israel in the 80's and 90's if Iran wasn't in the way with their Khomeinist bullshit.

 

[hussain0216]

I didn't say you have to do something, I am saying Turkey did not do anything against Israel other than vocal speeches. That was my point, that was all it's about.

Iran likewise, has not done shit. I do not recognize speeches. Iran makes threats all day, as for the ballistic missile launch in Iraq. Iraq would have caused a lot more damage to Israel if Iran wasn't in the way with their Khomeinist bullshit.

Palestine first needs the Arabs

But you people are shameless at the moment

 

[W.11]

Make sure to differentiate vocal, with action

Erdogan/Turkey has done nothing against Israel but give speeches. Arab states have fought wars against Israel, launched missiles, killed etc.

Iran has done what against Israel? Nothing directly. Iran instead bought arms from Israel in the 1980's under the contra-affair, to fight Iraq.. which launched missiles on Israel.

There are 22 Arab states, the GCC does not represent all 22 Arab states. Iran and Turkey have done nothing against Israel.

even speaking is better than not even doing that, turkey is a major arms dealer in the region, and what im hinting at is, turkey turning its tides and starting to speak in favour of palestine seems like a turning point for israel's fate in the region.

reards

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Palestine first needs the Arabs

But you people are shameless at the moment

Arab world has far bigger problems than Palestine at this time.

Not long ago, Iraq was in a major crisis with the growth of ISIS. Syria has been in a civil war, likewise Libya and Yemen is in a major conflict. Palestine's intensity of conflict is far lower than the ones mentioned above, it just happens to be that with Palestine their enemy is Israel which allows for a more emotional context, this is why Erdogan and Khamenei always use Palestine to further their agenda. In reality, their objectives are not directly Palestine which is not that important in any way other than Jerusalem, religiously.

Iran's interests is in Iraq and the Gulf states, the Palestine story is to validate the external meddling. Similarly they will call everyone that disagrees with them a zionist.

Palestine palestine, keep crying.

 

[hussain0216]

Arab world has far bigger problems than Palestine at this time.

Not long ago, Iraq was in a major crisis with the growth of ISIS. Syria has been in a civil war, likewise Libya and Yemen is in a major conflict. Palestine's intensity of conflict is far lower than the ones mentioned above, it just happens to be that with Palestine their enemy is Israel which allows for a more emotional context, this is why Erdogan and Khamenei always use Palestine to further their agenda. In reality, their objectives are not directly Palestine which is not that important in any way other than Jerusalem, religiously.

Okaayyyy so you have other issues

But that dosent explain why Arabs are so shamelessly trying to provide a clearly biased trump and his Zionist pals a propaganda victory by turning up at the WH or giving docile statements

Having other issues is fine but openly supporting the oppression of the Palestinian people is beyond disgraceful



You can't blame Iranians or Turks or anyone else that everyone has such low opinion of the Arabs at the moment

 

[denel]

It appears that the Palestinian leadership is prepared to obligate its people to refugee status for at least another generation, perhaps two. After two more generations the 1967 war will be 100 years past, a century. There is no prospect for a military victory over Israel for at least one more generation. Demographics is on the side of the Palestinians as long as they can tolerate increasing their numbers but always only in the life style of a refugee. So how large a refuge population can the Palestinians tolerate? who will financially support them? for how long? To me the wiser course would be to capitulate to the Israelis now and then concentrate on strengthening their community financially and technologically, while hoping that demographics will allow them to achieve political power within a couple of more generations.

The way things are, they will swallow up entire palestine as well. Unfortunately, I stand with Palestinians on this and against the lunatic fringe supporting Netanyahu. Regretfully the arabs have shown clearly they had no balls left after Meyers took those away; My prediction is they will be assimulated into Isreal proper.

 

[Ansu fati]

Arab world has far bigger problems than Palestine at this time.

Not long ago, Iraq was in a major crisis with the growth of ISIS. Syria has been in a civil war, likewise Libya and Yemen is in a major conflict. Palestine's intensity of conflict is far lower than the ones mentioned above, it just happens to be that with Palestine their enemy is Israel which allows for a more emotional context, this is why Erdogan and Khamenei always use Palestine to further their agenda. In reality, their objectives are not directly Palestine which is not that important in any way other than Jerusalem, religiously.

Iran's interests is in Iraq and the Gulf states, the Palestine story is to validate the external meddling. Similarly they will call everyone that disagrees with them a zionist.

Palestine palestine, keep crying.

You have a point when you criticize turkey and iran at least there is humanitarian help from turkey but you should blame first and foremost arabs cause relationships between gcc arabs and israel is not from yesterday
This peace plan is actually nothing but putting an official end to the only difference between them(palestinian issue)
Maybe turkish and iranian statements are worthless in practical sense but they do reflect the truth
At the time when muslims all around the world are going through the worst period of modern history these statements give them some moral support they are saying to themselves at least we are not fully alone left...
I think palestinians and other muslim who are in trouble are perfectly aware of the liranian and turkish limitations but they still value the courage to tell the truth

 

[Pandora]

No peace plan will stop Israel from mascaring palestinians and occupying their land in the future. Israeil will find an excuse to commit genocide in very near future as things are progressing. Whatever the fate of Palestinians it is not our burden to bear considering our threat next door is committing genocide of kashmiris as we speak. On top of that Hindutva's are itching for bloodshed by inciting another war with Pakistan. World is simply heading towards 3rd world war. War that will end all wars.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

You have a point when you criticize turkey and iran at least there is humanitarian help from turkey but you should blame first and foremost arabs cause relationships between gcc arabs and israel is not from yesterday
This peace plan is actually nothing but putting an official end to the only difference between them(palestinian issue)
Maybe turkish and iranian statements are worthless in practical sense but they do reflect the truth
At the time when muslims all around the world are going through the worst period of modern history these statements give them some moral support they are saying to themselves at least we are not fully alone left...
I think palestinians and other muslim who are in trouble are perfectly aware of the liranian and turkish limitations but they still value the courage to tell the truth

and take a good look at the Arab states who took an aggressive policy against Israel, look at what happened to those states.

Iraq is as wealthy with oil as the other GCC states, however it has gone from more advanced than the GCC states, to a situation of utter trash due to its aggressive policy against Israel. The west will burn the GCC as well if they do the same. Syria has held a hostile policy with Israel, look at what the US decided to do recently.

Erdogan's interest is in expanding in the Arab world, that's the sole reason of all his Palestine/Israel speeches. He's not going to do anything against Israel. Pakistan works with the US, none of these states have taken a serious hostile stance towards US/Israel. If they did, if you did you wouldn't end up in a good situation.

 

[ziaulislam]

You can’t beat israel that’s a known thing
Jordan is already palestinian majority country so they can or should i say must tolerate palestinians
I think this palestinian cause is officially over since egypt and gcc arab states are on board with the “peace” plan best thing palestinians should do is to move on but pride and nationalism won’t allow this logical decision
Very sad end for palestine but they should curse their fellow arabs when they decided to side with britain in WW1 against turks
What goes around comes around is the quote for arabs and their actions 100 years ago

Eaxctly what did they thought would happen?
They themselves allowed the jews to settle in exchange for getting rid of turks..now reap what u sow..

and take a good look at the Arab states who took an aggressive policy against Israel, look at what happened to those states.

Iraq is as wealthy with oil as the other GCC states, however it has gone from more advanced than the GCC states, to a situation of utter trash due to its aggressive policy against Israel. The west will burn the GCC as well if they do the same. Syria has held a hostile policy with Israel, look at what the US decided to do recently.

Erdogan's interest is in expanding in the Arab world, that's the sole reason of all his Palestine/Israel speeches. He's not going to do anything against Israel. Pakistan works with the US, none of these states have taken a serious hostile stance towards US/Israel. If they did, if you did you wouldn't end up in a good situation.

Wrong
GCC countries have enough money to burn israel down if they want to..
Money is more important than anything
If GCC spent just 1% of 4 trillion dollars they can lobby in USA against isreal but they dont want to because a palestinian
State is a threat
To GCC themselves

Isreal doesnt has much support in europe anymore..in usa its support comes from the evenglical christians that are now in minority ..the rest dont know abt this issue because nobody lobied enough ...

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Eaxctly what did they thought would happen?
They themselves allowed the jews to settle in exchange for getting rid of turks..now reap what u sow..


Wrong
GCC countries have enough money to burn israel down if they want to..
Money is more important than anything
If GCC spent just 1% of 4 trillion dollars they can lobby in USA against isreal but they dont want to because a palestinian
State is a threat
To GCC themselves

Isreal doesnt has much support in europe anymore..in usa its support comes from the evenglical christians that are now in minority ..the rest dont know abt this issue because nobody lobied enough ...

Palestine is very small if it was to become an independent state, it's not going to have a major influence within the Arab world. Would be similar to Lebanon.

Money is not going to turn the US against Israel. Qatar, which is Turkey's best friend also happens to be the biggest Arab 'ally' of Israel and the US in every way. We have our own issues and the region has bigger problems than Palestine.

 

[ziaulislam]

Palestine is very small if it was to become an independent state, it's not going to have a major influence within the Arab world. Would be similar to Lebanon.

Money is not going to turn the US against Israel. Qatar, which is Turkey's best friend also happens to be the biggest Arab 'ally' of Israel and the US in every way. We have our own issues and the region has bigger problems than Palestine.

thats pretty much sums it up
"we have biiger issues than palestine"
i mean WTF..what issues?
if arab world doesnt consider Palestine the issue what do they expect from coutnries 1000s of miles away

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Thawdan (RAT) narrated "Allah’s Messenger, peace and blessings be upon him, said, ‘Imminently, there will come a time when the nations gather against you, just as people gather around a feast.’ A man said, ‘Will it be because we are few at that time, O Allah’s Messenger?’ He responded, ‘No, you will be numerous in those times, but you will be as useless as the scum of the sea, and Allah will remove the fear that your enemies used to posses from you from their chests, and He will place al-Wahn in your hearts’, it was said, ‘What is al-Wahn?’, he responded, ‘Love of life, and hatred of death.’” [Ahmad, Abu Dawud]

 

[Saddam Hussein]

thats pretty much sums it up
"we have biiger issues than palestine"
i mean WTF..what issues?
if arab world doesnt consider Palestine the issue what do they expect from coutnries 1000s of miles away

What issues?

Are you blind, how long ago was Isis? Also there's little that can be done against Israel at the moment, what would you do? Nothing you can do

 

[Hack-Hook]

Iran has done what against Israel? Nothing directly. Iran instead bought arms from Israel in the 1980's under the contra-affair, to fight Iraq.. which launched missiles on Israel.

Not from Israel but from USA . USA bought them from Israel and sold them to iran.
And about Iran done nothing directly ,Well that indirect approach gave more result than Arab countries direct approach . at least in Lebanon.
By the way if it was up to me I'd have abandoned all Palestinian cause to their Arab brothers . they have back stabbed us and our allies more than once, not only to Israel but also to ISIS and HTS terrorists .

I didn't say you have to do something, I am saying Turkey did not do anything against Israel other than vocal speeches. That was my point, that was all it's about.

Iran likewise, has not done shit. I do not recognize speeches. Iran makes threats all day, as for the ballistic missile launch in Iraq. Iraq would have caused a lot more damage to Israel in the 80's and 90's if Iran wasn't in the way with their Khomeinist bullshit.

Sorry that Saddam attacked us and used chemical weapons against our cities.