Pakistans no.1 enemy Afghanistan

[Bindovi]

Afghanistan was the only country that had opposed Pakistan's membership to the UN back in 1947

We Indians won't blame Afghanistan. ..

 

[CHD]

Afghanistan will eventually break into pieces with taliban demanding s seperate state of thier own

 

[Asian.Century]

Afghans are extremely jealous of Pakistanis, thier hatred is epitome of Afghani failure state, failure personal status and the third rate, rubbish beggars in the world...Afghanis are raped and invaded again and again by foreign powers and will sell thier mothers to the highest bidders.....90% Afghanis take Pakistani passport and ID card to travel abroad while rest become asylum seekers in West and Middle East.

Pakistanis must realise these Afghans in power are Norther Alliance terrorists....and must be dismantled at all costs.

 

[CHD]

Afghans are extremely jealous of Pakistanis, thier hatred is epitome of Afghani failure state, failure personal status and the third rate, rubbish beggars in the world...Afghanis are raped and invaded again and again by foreign powers and will sell thier mothers to the highest bidders.....90% Afghanis take Pakistani passport and ID card to travel abroad while rest become asylum seekers in West and Middle East.

Pakistanis must realise these Afghans in power are Norther Alliance terrorists....and must be dismantled at all costs.

You are right one of the biggest reason of afghan hate is jealousy due to thier own complete failures and there is no future of united afghanistan

 

[tore]

I really do not understand this. Can someone lucidly explain the beef afghans have against pakistan.

I have personally seen afghans being really anti-Pakistani. I speak only from limited personal experience of talking to my afghan Barber in London. He is absolutely against Pakistan for some reason, thought I would be too as I am Bangladeshi.

Obviously my understanding of afghan Pakistani relationship is second hand. You guys were instrumental in getting rid of the Russians and sheltering millions of afghans to this date.

Are their issue their perceived interference by Pakistan in internal governance of Afghanistan?
Has India exploited these views in any material way?

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Afghanistan want to take controll of 75% pakistani territory. Thats their real problem. Other reason for haterd towards Pakistan is why did Pakistan provide shelter to poor afghans during war time. Why did Pakistan give them food etc

Hi,

To all the afghans---the consequences of sheltering 5 million refugees does not mean diddley sh-it to them---according to them we got paid by the UN for that----so they don't consider it any burden on us-----.

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Afghan never admit anything, in mood of denial. They can atleast quit Pakistan now, Pakistan can earn money on other ways, dont want Afghans inside our borders.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Afghans are extremely jealous of Pakistanis, thier hatred is epitome of Afghani failure state, failure personal status and the third rate, rubbish beggars in the world...Afghanis are raped and invaded again and again by foreign powers and will sell thier mothers to the highest bidders.....90% Afghanis take Pakistani passport and ID card to travel abroad while rest become asylum seekers in West and Middle East.

Pakistanis must realise these Afghans in power are Northern Alliance terrorists....and must be dismantled at all costs.

Lol bro............I mainly agree with you. The main concern I have with Afghans/Afghanistan is that the millions of them inside Pakistan are a massive burden on us. I don't wish them harm but they're undermining our economy and taking away the jobs of our own people. I just want them out of Pakistan. All of them. They should all go to a country they like or one that they consider their friends. That most certainly is not us. I honestly don't know how much longer our economy can sustain them. It's an massive achievement that we have done so for the last 36 years.

 

[Viper0011.]

...and that is why the Americans did not succeed. Because of that very same attitude. You cannot mine it because of the people to people connections. You can have border posts and specific entry points and all but mining?? seriously? We are handling it pretty well so far. WE won the hearts and minds of the locals while the Americans just pretended that they were trying really hard into winning them. but they were doing the opposite. case ion point a video a uploaded only right now on the PD Facebook page. there are countless other stories.
Apparently the afghan army is sort of succeeding as some afghan posters here mention..so lets hope for the best. Remember, when you try and bomb your way through a problem, you cause more mess.
Cheers

WTF are you talking about? And who are you fooling? "winning hearts and minds of Afghans"??? Every Afghan thinks Pakistan is the cause of their suffering, their previous generation's sufferings and all. And you think you'll change that mind set????
Hell, the 3 million people you've been keeping for the past three decades, STILL blame Pakistan for everything and hate Pakistan, WHILE they live, work and earn their living in Pakistan!!! Some of them even wanted a Pashtunistan built and some Pashtun Army generals were with them too. Investigate IK's funding and see how much money many Pashtuns have given to him, who actually belong to Afghanistan. This was specifically to somehow build a Pashtunistan.

So do me a favor, try not to bullshiit me. I know the reality. What "people to people" connections? This is all more bullshiit. People can't go from the local check posts made every 10-15 miles or so? Do they must cross the mining area? The way you do it is put a fence up inside a few meters of Pakistan's territory and outside of it, still the Pakistani area but touching the other side, you put mines.

Kiyani seriously wanted to mine the border. That would've been the best thing to do. You would've successfully eliminated terrorism from your country and no one would be able to run to Afghanistan, hide and come back and stage attacks inside Pakistan.

Afghanistan want to take controll of 75% pakistani territory. Thats their real problem.

Yup!!! You are right on the dime. They want Pakistan cut and a Pashtunistan made. They think KPK is theirs and it is the Pakistanis (really Punjabis), who've taken this away from them.

The only way to end this violence getting shipped from Afghanistan to Pakistan, is by putting mines on the border. Pakistan probably doesn't have the money to mine a 2500 KM long border with heavy duty, high quality fences and posts. Plus, even if you did that, the terrorists will cut the fence and will try to come inside. So the best thing to do, is to mine it. Its a one time step that will seriously help for many future decades to come!!!!

 

[tore]

WTF are you talking about? And who are you fooling? "winning hearts and minds of Afghans"??? Every Afghan thinks Pakistan is the cause of their suffering, their previous generation's sufferings and all. And you think you'll change that mind set????
Hell, the 3 million people you've been keeping for the past three decades, STILL blame Pakistan for everything and hate Pakistan, WHILE they live, work and earn their living in Pakistan!!! Some of them even wanted a Pashtunistan built and some Pashtun Army generals were with them too. Investigate IK's funding and see how much money many Pashtuns have given to him, who actually belong to Afghanistan. This was specifically to somehow build a Pashtunistan.

So do me a favor, try not to bullshiit me. I know the reality. What "people to people" connections? This is all more bullshiit. People can't go from the local check posts made every 10-15 miles or so? Do they must cross the mining area? The way you do it is put a fence up inside a few meters of Pakistan's territory and outside of it, still the Pakistani area but touching the other side, you put mines.

Kiyani seriously wanted to mine the border. That would've been the best thing to do. You would've successfully eliminated terrorism from your country and no one would be able to run to Afghanistan, hide and come back and stage attacks inside Pakistan.



Yup!!! You are right on the dime. They want Pakistan cut and a Pashtunistan made. They think KPK is theirs and it is the Pakistanis (really Punjabis), who've taken this away from them.

The only way to end this violence getting shipped from Afghanistan to Pakistan, is by putting mines on the border. Pakistan probably doesn't have the money to mine a 2500 KM long border with heavy duty, high quality fences and posts. Plus, even if you did that, the terrorists will cut the fence and will try to come inside. So the best thing to do, is to mine it. Its a one time step that will seriously help for many future decades to come!!!!

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India has put up double fence along the Pakistan border, with barb wires, it looks like it works. Its isnt that expensive and Pakistan isnt that poor. Pakistanies can finance the fence so the Afghan problem is mimimized. But ofcourse we must have border patroling along the whole border. Its alot of job less people in Pakistan, thereofre i am sure it would not be any problem to get guards patrolling the whoel Afghan border.

 

[Viper0011.]

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India has put up double fence along the Pakistan border, with barb wires, it looks like it works. Its isnt that expensive and Pakistan isnt that poor. Pakistanies can finance the fence so the Afghan problem is mimimized. But ofcourse we must have border patroling along the whole border. Its alot of job less people in Pakistan, thereofre i am sure it would not be any problem to get guards patrolling the whoel Afghan border.

This was brought up in Mushy's time and again, in Kiyani's time, many times. And at the end, the end option they thought was cheaper, was the mining option. A double sided fence with patrolling is obviously the best solution. But mining came up because of Pakistan's financial situation back then. So it may not be the case anymore as Pakistan now has the money. So I'd expect a fence being erected soon.

 

[Humble Analyst]

Hi,

To all the afghans---the consequences of sheltering 5 million refugees does not mean diddley sh-it to them---according to them we got paid by the UN for that----so they don't consider it any burden on us-----.

So United Nations can pay them while they are living in Afghanistan and Iran

Being irrational? we just want to trade with them and help them develop their own country as regional peace is vital.

According to a 2010 Gallup poll, 75% Afghans prefer India's leadership over that of the U.S. and China, with 50% expressing approval, the most positive rating of India for any other surveyed Asia-Pacific country.

India for the first time offers 20 PhD scholarships for Afghan students - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency

Why you don't apply same approach towards Pakistan. India is making Afghanistan friend because of anti Pakistan sentiment. India is working for regional peace and stability? BS

 

[somebozo]

Afghanistan has always been a stability thread to India...remember who kept invading India to loot the temples?? Ghori and Ghaznavi?

This was brought up in Mushy's time and again, in Kiyani's time, many times. And at the end, the end option they thought was cheaper, was the mining option. A double sided fence with patrolling is obviously the best solution. But mining came up because of Pakistan's financial situation back then. So it may not be the case anymore as Pakistan now has the money. So I'd expect a fence being erected soon.

It was even bought of recently but the Army is reluctant to touch pashtun tribal sensitivities because these areas also provide a large cadre of Pakistani Army man power..

 

[HAIDER]

Afghan ...........well....be united and take driving seat of your destiny.....Neither Pakistan , nor Indian can do anything for them...except......!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Viper0011.]

It was even bought of recently but the Army is reluctant to touch pashtun tribal sensitivities because these areas also provide a large cadre of Pakistani Army man power..

It doesn't matter. Have the people of KPK forgotten what happened last week or the school attack? And thousands of soldiers who got killed and injured? And thousands of innocent civilians who got killed?

This terrorism is exactly like a Cancer, if you don't treat it with Chemo or Hysterectomy, it kills. Similarly, if terrorists ability to keep going back and forth isn't ended once for all, just like a Cancer, it will keep coming back!!! So its time to make hard choices once and for all. The military is finishing up a huge operation that has its own cost, headcount and billions of dollars. So you can't put it through waste. Pakistan has to go forward and make progress economically and financially with a stable environment. So this Fence or Mining deal has become the next critical thing to do.

 

[M.AsfandYar]

Boss it's more complicated than this, Afghanistan blames elements in Pakistan for sheltering terrorist and Pakistan blames Afghanistan in doing the same.

Nope that comes later. Its mainly Durand Line.
Afghans here don't even think about terrorists. All they rant is Peshawar is Afghanistan, Taxilla is Afghanistan ,bla bla,

 

[Zibago]

Just putting it out there, but maybe Pakistanis need to do a little bit of introspection as to why Afghans hate them.

Afghans are not insane people, they must have reasons, why don't you figure that out first. Maybe, could it be that you might be at fault too? Even just a little tiny bit?

Better to sort out this relationship real quick, they have one of the highest population growth rAtes in the world and if they continue to hate you, in a decade or so you could have over 50million people on your western border willing to bomb you back into the Stone Age.

Loy Afghanistan

Nope that comes later. Its mainly Durand Line.
Afghans here don't even think about terrorists. All they rant is Peshawar is Afghanistan, Taxilla is Afghanistan ,bla bla,

They even say ajk and Rawalpindi is afghanistan