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Many have noticed anti Pakistani attitudes among Afghans, a nation we sacrifice so my for so long.

Afghanistan does not accept the Pakistani -afganistan border as an international boundary, instead they call the Durand line. Afghanistan was the one & only country which didnt recognize Pakistan in 1947, and openly protested.

Afghanistan supports terrorism, instability, arms trafficking, drug deliveries and crime in Pakistan. Alot of the crime in Pakistan is done by afghans, and thats a big problem nobody talk about. After Afghan war alot of weapon flooded over to Pakistan, alsodrugs, thats due to afghans, a big problem.

Afghanistan's intelligence agency NDS is actively working for RAW, the spying and supporting terrorism inside Pakistan on behalf of RAW

Afghanistan wants to actively facilitate disintegrate Balochistan and Kyber Pakhtunkwa from Pakistan and Afghanistan to get large parts of Punjab to Indus and Sindh province, the remains of the countries, India should take. There is an Afghan desire that India should take the rest of Pakistan.

The question is what will happen to the country's 200 million + inhabitants of Pakistan ?

It is a big problem that Pakistanis sees Afghans as our brothers and sisters. The question is what more is needed do be done before Pakistanis understand that no nation on this planet hate Pakistan as much as Afghans.

I will very annoyed when Pakistanis says we are fraternal nations, for these fools do not know better. Check out Afghan reads newspapers and television then you will see alot of haterat against Pakistan.
If you get chance to meet afghan then you will see he/she use very rude langhuage against Pakistan/pakistanies and vert strong need among afghans to integrate pakistani territory with afghan territory.

Can anyone tell me why it is Pakistanis isnt informed that Afghans see Pakistan as their worst worst enemy.

My experience is that its possible to have friendly relationship with Indians abroad, but the same does not apply to Afghans. Afghans say openly how much they hate Pakistan, wherever in the world you meet Afghans. Whenever they get oppertunity they do an anti Pakistan speech, on all forums.

Afghans blame Pakistan to have a afghan policy of strategic depth, but the reality is that Afghan have used Pakistan as strategic depth. Whenever they/need shelter they move to Pakistan unrestricted. While its impossible for pakistanies to visit Afghanistan. As soon as pakistanies land in Afghanistan and go out of airport, he/she is shot dead. No pakistani are safe in Afghanistan.

Else Afghan put the blame for unrest in Afghanistan on Pakistan, while the throuth is that have for centuries killed & rapes fellow countrymen. A socalled baccha baz nation.

I want a discussion about what it takes to inform poorly informed Pakistani media about the Afghans' hatred for Pakistan and their strong will to annihilate/disintegrate Pakistan.

A proposed list of possible measures in the initial phase is to deal with hostile Afghans is-
-enforce border security along afghan border, mine the border, put up a fence along the whole border.
-become stricter in issuing visas to Afghans
-expell all Afghans from Pakistan
-Give death penalty to those corruput federal workers who issu fake pakistani passport & ID card to afghan nationals. Else it should be done inquiry into any passport issued on fake grounds in the past.
-Dont do business with afghans.
-Plan routes to Central Asia via China & Iran & Dont give landlocked Afghanistan any over land facility. Even Iranian dont like afghans :-)
-File a case against Afghans to return the area of Wakhan/BashaKhan area back to Pakistan , which was illigaly ceeded to Afghanistan by the british during colonial era.
 
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Many have noticed anti Pakistani attitudes among Afghans, a nation we sacrifice so my for so long.

Afghanistan does not accept the Pakistani -afganistan border as an international boundary, instead they call the Durand line.

Afghanistan supports terrorism, instability, arms trafficking, drug deliveries and crime in Pakistan. Alot of the crime in Pakistan is done by afghans, and thats a big problem nobody talk about. After Afghan war alot of weapon flooded over to Pakistan with drugs, thats due to afghans, a big problem.

Afghanistan's intelligence agency NDS is actively working for RAW, the spying and supporting terrorism inside Pakistan on behalf of RAW

Afghanistan wants to actively facilitate disentangling Balochistan and Kyber Pakhtunkwa from Pakistan and Afghanistan to get large parts of Punjab to Indus and Sindh province, the remains of the countries, India should take. There is an Afghan desire that India should take the rest of Pakistan.

The question is what will happen to the country's 200 million + inhabitants, it knows not Afghans.

It is a big problem that Pakistanis Anns Afghans as our brothers and sisters. The question is what more needed before Pakistanis understand that no nation on this planet hate Pakistan as much as Afghans.

I will shit annoyed when Pakistanis says we are fraternal nations, for these fools do not know better. Associate one Afghans and Afghan reads newspapers and television, and one encounters Afghans one understands what they stand for and how strong they want to dissolve Pakistan.

Can anyone tell me why it is not allowed to inform the Pakistanis that Afghans are Pakistan's worst enemy.

My experience is that when you associate with Indians so you have a relationship of friendship abroad, but the same does not apply to Afghans. Afghans say openly how much they hate Pakistan, wherever in the world you meet those.

I want a discussion about what it takes to inform poorly lit Pakistani media about the Afghans' hatred for Pakistan and their strong will to annihilate Pakistan.

Yes I have only recently in life found out (from Afghans) that they do not consider Pakistanis as friends or brothers. Indeed the general feeling of hatred is quite intense. I can say that I am better able to converse with a Hindu Indian than a Muslim Afghan. Such is the animosity!

Do not worry I was one of those who wished for brotherly relations with Afghans and thought good of Afghanistan. With time and forums like these Pakistanis will be made aware that this is not the case (unforutnately). Also the Pakistani media is in the hands of anti-Pakistani elements hence why they do not highlight critical issues like these. What Pakistanis should do is raise this awareness when discussing with family and friends.
 
No need to waste our time and energy on Afghanistan.

Just seal afghan boarder , put land mines on whole durand linr, impose heavy duty on afghan transit trade.

It is about time to just throw back all Afghans back to the hell, from where they belong.
 
No need to waste our time and energy on Afghanistan.

Just seal afghan boarder , put land mines on whole durand linr, impose heavy duty on afghan transit trade.

It is about time to just throw back all Afghans back to the hell, from where they belong.

Yes but do you think that Pakistan will actually do this?

Pakistan must be realistic in her dealings.
 
I met an Afghan student in Delhi a while back. She gave a presentation on Afghanistan at a local thinktank. And ran into a tiff with the people there on Durand Line. People wanted her to accept facts, but she said Afghans will never accept the line. I never really cared much about her political views and she was very abrasive (attitude), but she gifted me a book on Rumi which I loved.
 
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Relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan were established in 1947, just after the independence of Pakistan, and started deteriorating almost immediately due to issues related to the Durand Line, and later in the 1970s, due to the Soviet-Afghan war, and still later the Taliban insurgency after 9/11. There have been plenty of ups and downs our relationship. But to move forward & for the bright future of Pakistan a peaceful Afghanistan is must. And to ensure the success of the Zarb-e-Azb operation, one of the costliest in the nation's history,we have to find ways to establish peace with Afghanistan.

Our biggest enemy is India a Hindu dominant society. India doesn’t want Afghanistan to have better relations with Pakistan, and Pakistan wants India kicked out of Afghanistan. India has a size able presence in Afghanistan and soon after 9/11 they were able to fully control Afghan establishment mindset. Currently Indians controls entire Afghan media a strong communication tool that helped them to spread their hatred against Pakistanis. Pakistan Afghanistan shares same culture religion & form of living. Either getting emotional we need to find a concrete durable solution to kick out Indians from Afghanistan and bring them close to Pakistan.
 
Relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan were established in 1947, just after the independence of Pakistan, and started deteriorating almost immediately due to issues related to the Durand Line, and later in the 1970s, due to the Soviet-Afghan war, and still later the Taliban insurgency after 9/11. There have been plenty of ups and downs our relationship. But to move forward & for the bright future of Pakistan a peaceful Afghanistan is must. And to ensure the success of the Zarb-e-Azb operation, one of the costliest in the nation's history,we have to find ways to establish peace with Afghanistan.

Our biggest enemy is India a Hindu dominant society. India doesn’t want Afghanistan to have better relations with Pakistan, and Pakistan wants India kicked out of Afghanistan. India has a size able presence in Afghanistan and soon after 9/11 they were able to fully control Afghan establishment mindset. Currently Indians controls entire Afghan media a strong communication tool that helped them to spread their hatred against Pakistanis. Pakistan Afghanistan shares same culture religion & form of living. Either getting emotional we need to find a concrete durable solution to kick out Indians from Afghanistan and bring them close to Pakistan.
Why bring them closer when they are already living inside our borders?? What we share with Afghanistan is small in comparison to how much difference there is between us.
 
The writer of this article which is more of a hatred speech rather then an unbiased account is very either ill informed about the history or neglecting it due to intense feeling. Pakistan have been initially started interfering in Afghan internal issue working like a puppet to US during Afghan invasion of Soviet. Pakistan's proxy has now backfired to her perhaps leads to hatred from Afghans too. Haqqanis and various others have been your guest who are threat to Afghan.. I mean please go by facts research, think and then come on to a judgment... You are talking like you are paying billions of dollars to Afghanis every years and they still hate you..Pleaseee..

During development of Afghan after US withdrawal Pakistan did not allow India to transport aid through her territory.. India spent millions to construct road from Iran to Afghanistan (Not mentioning this because we did something extra ordinary)..

As far as RAW is concerned even after ordering if you don't get Chicken Dominator with extra cheese in cheese burst crust from Dominos... you gonna blame RAW... so it's cool with us...:meeting::meeting:

Relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan were established in 1947, just after the independence of Pakistan, and started deteriorating almost immediately due to issues related to the Durand Line, and later in the 1970s, due to the Soviet-Afghan war, and still later the Taliban insurgency after 9/11. There have been plenty of ups and downs our relationship. But to move forward & for the bright future of Pakistan a peaceful Afghanistan is must. And to ensure the success of the Zarb-e-Azb operation, one of the costliest in the nation's history,we have to find ways to establish peace with Afghanistan.

Our biggest enemy is India a Hindu dominant society. India doesn’t want Afghanistan to have better relations with Pakistan, and Pakistan wants India kicked out of Afghanistan. India has a size able presence in Afghanistan and soon after 9/11 they were able to fully control Afghan establishment mindset. Currently Indians controls entire Afghan media a strong communication tool that helped them to spread their hatred against Pakistanis. Pakistan Afghanistan shares same culture religion & form of living. Either getting emotional we need to find a concrete durable solution to kick out Indians from Afghanistan and bring them close to Pakistan.


Next time you do not get food on time at home blame RAW, for week WI FI signal blame RAW, for Power Cuts blame RAW, less cheeze in Pizza blame RAW, Dog bites you the moment you step out blame RAW... You did not feel satisfactory high even after 4 beers RAW.. everything in this world going against every single Pakistani is by RAW... Kitna roega be... itna to amrikiyon ne nahi roya Osama ko...Dude be realistic take some shits on you as well.. afterall mess to some extent created by you too...
 
I really do not understand this. Can someone lucidly explain the beef afghans have against pakistan.

I have personally seen afghans being really anti-Pakistani. I speak only from limited personal experience of talking to my afghan Barber in London. He is absolutely against Pakistan for some reason, thought I would be too as I am Bangladeshi.

Obviously my understanding of afghan Pakistani relationship is second hand. You guys were instrumental in getting rid of the Russians and sheltering millions of afghans to this date.

Are their issue their perceived interference by Pakistan in internal governance of Afghanistan?
Has India exploited these views in any material way?
 
I really do not understand this. Can someone lucidly explain the beef afghans have against pakistan.

I have personally seen afghans being really anti-Pakistani. I speak only from limited personal experience of talking to my afghan Barber in London. He is absolutely against Pakistan for some reason, thought I would be too as I am Bangladeshi.

Obviously my understanding of afghan Pakistani relationship is second hand. You guys were instrumental in getting rid of the Russians and sheltering millions of afghans to this date.

Are their issue their perceived interference by Pakistan in internal governance of Afghanistan?
Has India exploited these views in any material way?
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Afghanistan want to take controll of 75% pakistani territory. Thats their real problem. Other reason for haterd towards Pakistan is why did Pakistan provide shelter to poor afghans during war time. Why did Pakistan give them food etc
 

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