Pakistan's indirect role in North Korea's nuclear program

[Indus Pakistan]

But why do you think AQ Khan escaped if his financial dealings were caught?

When you make messiah of someone it becomes very difficult to make him accountable. And not be made to account for your financial dealings is well so common in Pakistan that it would be shocking to see anybody [powerful] to be held to account. Exactly how many politicians, generals, bureucrats who embezzle the state of $billions are held to account? So AQ's example is the perfect norm and not a exception.

I think you are just scared all the time

Scared of what? Bolt of lightening? Ghosts?

 

[Joe Shearer]

And the worship AQ Khan in Pakistan. On the contrary Hoodbuoy is hated. Sometimes, sometimes ..

Look at the comments, chief.

 

[El Sidd]

When you make messiah of someone it becomes very difficult to make him accountable. And not be made to account for your financial dealings is well so common in Pakistan that it would be shocking to see anybody [powerful] to be held to account. Exactly how many politicians, generals, bureucrats who embezzle the state of $billions are held to account? So AQ's example is the perfect norm and not a exception.

Scared of what? Bolt of lightening? Ghosts?

Had AQ Khan been a Messiah He would be ruling Pakistan or had Pakistanis seen him as such. You tend to emotionalize things as they appear in articles.

And he is an exception simply for the fact he had the moral courage to come out and read a televised apology for the english speaking masses. Did he need that? Not one bit if you ask me. That actually makes him an exception.
As far as financial dealings are concerned. You can in a matter of seconds trace his financial dealings in office and out of office with a click of a button nowadays. So this hysteria is just for your consumption.

Ofcourse the norm would have been had AQ Khan managed to hold the state of Pakistan ransom but just because he happens to be a village idiot he did not. And this is how we repay him lol
Why don't you in this corruption driven nationalism bring out his financial corruption to the world and let the court decides.

Scared of the secular gods hahaha

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Had AQ Khan been a Messiah

I know Cowasjee was on CIA payroll but still from wayback in 2002 before AQ's "outing" :-


https://www.dawn.com/news/1072671
https://www.dawn.com/news/1073631

"At the opening ceremony of one of the structures, our national nuclear treasure, Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan, was strutting around looking highly important (as indeed he is judging from his collection of gold medals). I enquired from Dr Ahmed as to how he fitted into the organization and was told that the man wished to be a member and help in the collection of funds.


Early this month, traumatized and agitated trauma-healer Haroon Ahmed came and asked if I was on talking terms with Abdul Qadeer Khan. Unbelievably, he with a team of men had physically attacked the IBS in an attempt to take it over, and had filed a suit in the Sindh High Court (1232/02), he as plaintiff versus Haroon Ahmed and the Pakistan Association for Mental Health. No, I could not talk to the man, but who was Khan's lawyer? He turned out to be another doctor, this time a doctor of law, Farogh Naseem. Did I know him? Yes, I did."

 

[El Sidd]

I know Cowasjee was on CIA payroll but still from wayback in 2002 before AQ's "outing" :-


https://www.dawn.com/news/1072671
https://www.dawn.com/news/1073631

For a smart fellow like you to connect the dots of the narrative and the timing is somehow beyond you?

I am not having a Jinnah vs Azad anymore.

Its not the 60s anymore

 

[Indus Pakistan]

For a smart fellow like you to connect the dots of the narrative and the timing is somehow beyond you?

You can either be -

(i) Smart
(ii) Recieved good education

Or both. I am only (ii). So do please fill in us because I am lost.

 

[El Sidd]

You can either be -

(i) Smart
(ii) Recieved good education

Or both. I am only (ii). So do please fill in us because I am lost.

When you make a Russian Salad you don't need a Russian telling you how to do it.


For all the crap people give me that we made a N bomb without CIA knowing it or we had some sort of N market going on.

Highest order BS.

I am neither smart nor educated. So i can only tell you there are things better left unsaid.


P.s. if you think you being a secularist puts Pakistan first. Sir i am just going to say that is what Kalam Azad said. No ideology is greater than Pakistan and that includes all the ismss.. even Islamism

 

[Indus Pakistan]

secularist puts Pakistan first

Of course not. And i still did not quite comprehend rest of what you said. Your obviously operating at a higher level then I. You know I was 6 years old before I learn't to read. I was beaten black and blue. The leather chappel still gives me the creaps ...

So I am far from smart. I did enjoy good British education [public/private].

Ps. I kept coming top of my class thereafter and winning school prizes. Teachers could not figure out what was behind my change. Well they did not know that it was either I came top or the "leather chappel" was waiting at home. My father being a strong believer in "spare the rod and spoil the child".

 

[TMA]

When you make a Russian Salad you don't need a Russian telling you how to do it.


For all the crap people give me that we made a N bomb without CIA knowing it or we had some sort of N market going on.

Highest order BS.

I am neither smart nor educated. So i can only tell you there are things better left unsaid.


P.s. if you think you being a secularist puts Pakistan first. Sir i am just going to say that is what Kalam Azad said. No ideology is greater than Pakistan and that includes all the ismss.. even Islamism

Is Islam greater than Pakistan?

 

[El Sidd]

Of course not. And i still did not quite comprehend rest of what you said. Your obviously operating at a higher level then I. You know I was 6 years old before I learn't to read. I was beaten black and blue. The leather chappel still gives me the creaps ...

So I am far from smart. I did enjoy good British education [public/private].

Ps. I kept coming top of my class thereafter and winning school prizes. Teachers could not figure out what was behind my change. Well they did not know that it was either I came top or the "leather chappel" was waiting at home. My father being a strong believer in "spare the rod and spoil the child".

You are then someone privileged.

I was home schooled and then put in a government school.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

I am a secularist. I have no hesitation in placing the Pakistani state equivalent to god. That is my way of placing Pakistan first. Can you say the same boss?

Yet you speak in favor for the guy who is speaking against the interest of Pakistan and placing Pakistan under threat by putting her in equivalence to North Korea, your secularism is the sole reason why you speak in favor for this guy it is because of reasons like these why your secularism is cancer for Pakistan as it gives birth to the likes of Pervez Hoodboy and Hussain Haqqani.

I am a Muslim, I have no hesitation in placing Pakistan equivalent to Islam as Pakistan was fought by the Muslim for the Muslim's right to live in freedom against foreign oppression, not race, not racial nationalism or any other ideology, solely Islam and unlike you no offence intended I will stay true to my words and never speak against the interest of Pakistan.

What do you think Israel would do to any Israeli individual who publicly claims and states in the international media that Israel intelligence agency Mossad has a hand in fostering and nurturing Daesh and what do you think Israel would do to any others who support or speak in favor of that individual?

 

[YeBeWarned]

I hope USA won't use this as excuse to invade Pakistan hahah
Wonder if Pakistan has any role in Vietnam or Korean war too

 

[El Sidd]

Is Islam greater than Pakistan?

I have no idea how to answer this question.

But i will leave you an explanation what Pakistan is.

Pakistan is the democratic will of the people to live under God's will and way.

The only democratic representation of Islam in the world. The only country of the world where people chose to live under Islamic values through the democratic process.

All the rest of the Muslim majority countries were founded on race ethnicity color and ismssss.

We don't need that.

We simply said when asked

Pakistan ka matlab kiya La ilaha illalah.

Equating governance problem with ideology is a rather dangerous task.

Look around you mate. Everyone's shizzed and fuzzed. We get pampered even if we supposedly lie cheat and steal. Nobody cares.

The only people who have given fatwas against the state of Pakistan are the terrorists.

So relax. Enjoy the show. Its here to stay and last longer than most of the calculation of probability.

 

[bananarepublic]

I think A.Q Khan was used as a scrap goat by our institution if any problems occured during any nuclear transactions .. for example Pakistan traded with north Korea centrifuges for missile tech now many people say AQ khan did business with them personally through his so called underground company now the fact is that AQ khan did not get the missile tech for his personal collection but was needed for our missile program.. so i think that AQ was used as a scrapgoat if our institutions got in a mess and they did.

 

[El Sidd]

You can either be -

(i) Smart
(ii) Recieved good education

Or both. I am only (ii). So do please fill in us because I am lost.

Try looking at it this way.

We are so free that each one of us thinks of himself as Qasim Che or Cyrus or Alexander. And everyone's and everything's gotta do with Pakistan.

When you piss so many people off there must be something going so much right for you.

Or maybe i am just a positive guy