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It is often argued that Pakistan’s defence expenditure should be curtailed in order to promote economic development. In my view, such arguments are misconceived. The choice is not between a security state and a welfare state. These are not either/or alternatives. The issue will be wrongly posed if put in terms of a mutually exclusive choice between defence and economic development.

In most countries defence is accorded the same level of priority as economic achievement. We need not look too far that – India is a prime example, as are the US, China and other smaller countries, where defence is given great importance.

Considering the extremely heavy tasks our defence forces are required to perform, Pakistan’s defence budget is at a bare minimum. In the absence of effective armed forces our situation would be most perilous. No economic prosperity would be possible in conditions of anarchy or debility, and economic activity would dwindle.

The current sentiments against our military are the result of long periods of military dictatorships. It is not the job of the army to run the country; its job is to protect it against aggression. The dictatorships of General Ziaul Haq and General Pervez Musharraf did incalculable harm to Pakistan, with the armed forces themselves suffering badly from their misadventures and malfeasance. The military’s professionalism was tarnished by its involvement in non-military duties.

But the follies of our military rulers should not make us denigrate our armed forces. A strong and effective defence is imperative in the conditions we face. In fact, I would go so far as to say that an effective defence will promote our economic progress. This is true of all those countries in the world that are militarily strong today.

At the same time, it is necessary that the professionalism of our armed forces becomes impeccable. They must become forward-looking and adapt to new challenges. For all this to happen, a reorientation of their thinking is needed.

Our military inherited British traditions. Although this laid a sound organisational pattern, it limited conceptual abilities. We became strong in tactics but weak in strategy. For example, in the 1971 war, we won all the tactical battles in the eastern wing against absolutely overwhelming odds, but utterly floundered in strategic conception and operational methodology. A divergence between political, military and economic aims has been prominent in our history.

Policy requires weighing probabilities, possibilities and practicalities. The vitality of an entity is dependent upon its ability to strike a balance between the requirements of organisation and tackling risks and opportunities.

Modern conditions are so complex that is becomes difficult to achieve this balance. Vision, insight and analytical skill are necessary to transcend specialised frameworks and the administrative, bureaucratic framework of the defence establishment. Ends and means must not get confused with cause and effect. If an entity faces too many unexpected challenges, its power to make decisions breaks down. In military annals, a superior military doctrine has led to victory at least as often as superiority of resources.

In our present context, developing a capacity to deal with insurgencies and non-conventional warfare is also required.

In this new world, technology is changing at an exponential rate, and technological issues have assumed crucial importance. Decisions involving technology can make the difference between victory and defeat. The choices among innumerable different weapon systems have become complex, costly and decisive.

As an illustration, our one and only submarine kept most of the Indian navy bottled up in their harbours during the 1965 war. The position was reversed in the 1971 war, when we had nothing to counter the Indian OSA missile boats. With the introduction of drones and robotic weapons, many traditional military methods are becoming outdated. Valour is being eliminated and warfare is being dehumanised. Nuclear weapons have also complicated issues of deterrence and defence doctrines.

A pre-requisite in our context is the importance of effective and integrated coordination between the army, air force and navy. This has been found wanting in the past. There has also been a lack of planning between the Defence Production Division and the Directorate General Defence Purchase. There is reason to believe that our overall defence budget can be more efficiently allocated by the armed forces for better effectiveness and capability. In other words, better teeth-to-tail ratio.

To look at the positive side, our military personnel possess all those qualities of courage, toughness and commitment that are required of their profession. What is essential is proper overall direction and conceptual thought in military planning.

Above all, it is imperative that our armed forces have the full support of the people they serve and protect. Their success would be almost impossible without such support. All of us need to help in building up their morale. The armed forces, in turn, should make efforts to earn such support, without resorting to adventurism or military rule in the future.

The writer is a former ambassador.

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I think the GoP should decrease it spending and put that money in Pak Military and increase their budget to at least $7 Billionn.
PA: $3 Billion
PAF: $2.5 Billion
PN: $1.5 Billion
 
I think the GoP should decrease it spending and put that money in Pak Military and increase their budget to at least $7 Billionn.
PA: $3 Billion
PAF: $2.5 Billion
PN: $1.5 Billion

And that would be what ? 4% of Pak's GDP?
 
7billions=roughly 3% of pak gdp(228-230billions USD)


$ 218 billion.. so about 3.2%. That would put Pakistan among the high spenders in terms of defence spend to GDP ratio
 
7billions=roughly 3% of pak gdp(228-230billions USD)

The border guards need more equipment and armaments, specially more helis and heavy artillery and personnel for the FC and other paramilitary..dont you think?
 
$ 218 billion.. so about 3.2%. That would put Pakistan among the high spenders in terms of defence spend to GDP ratio

well 21.3trillions pkr by 92(in june 2012) equals to 228-230billions
 
All out war is a thing of the past, but it's fashionable to speak about it due to vested interests. ZA Bhutto did say that the Pakistani people will eat grass in order to produce a nuclear weapon!

The point is, Pakistan has now attained the ignoble title of the 'The country with the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world'! How many more nukes is Pakistan going to produce before it starts utilizing these funds for eradicating poverty, improving health, education and the standard of living of the people of Pakistan instead?

Nuclear weapons are unusable in today's geopolitical scenario and are at best of deterrent value. Thus, even a single nuke of a nominal 20KT yield has enough deterrent value to assure MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) against an enemy.

So-called 'Tactical' nukes as a battlefield weapon have been discarded as a flawed concept by all countries that were in possession of these weapons and have destroyed them all. But Pakistani generals in their wisdom have resurrected this dangerous concept under the mistaken notion that these will blunt Indian attacks into its territory! Are they aware that a tactical nuclear strike will inevitably lead to a counter value response leading to an all out nuclear war? There will be NO graduated response. Indian nuclear doctrine is crystal clear and that is use of ANY type of nuclear weapon whether counter force or counter value by Pakistan against India or its armed forces will result in a massive response with all nukes at its disposal, from land, air and sea.

It's time Pakistan calls a halt to its burgeoning nuke stockpile and channelizes the sparse funds available for economic development instead.
 
^^^ i completely agree with u on this.... that tactical nuclear weapons are not the way to go... instead we should go for conventional arms.
 
All out war is a thing of the past, but it's fashionable to speak about it due to vested interests. ZA Bhutto did say that the Pakistani people will eat grass in order to produce a nuclear weapon!

The point is, Pakistan has now attained the ignoble title of the 'The country with the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world'! How many more nukes is Pakistan going to produce before it starts utilizing these funds for eradicating poverty, improving health, education and the standard of living of the people of Pakistan instead?

Nuclear weapons are unusable in today's geopolitical scenario and are at best of deterrent value. Thus, even a single nuke of a nominal 20KT yield has enough deterrent value to assure MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) against an enemy.

So-called 'Tactical' nukes as a battlefield weapon have been discarded as a flawed concept by all countries that were in possession of these weapons and have destroyed them all. But Pakistani generals in their wisdom have resurrected this dangerous concept under the mistaken notion that these will blunt Indian attacks into its territory! Are they aware that a tactical nuclear strike will inevitably lead to a counter value response leading to an all out nuclear war? There will be NO graduated response. Indian nuclear doctrine is crystal clear and that is use of ANY type of nuclear weapon whether counter force or counter value by Pakistan against India or its armed forces will result in a massive response with all nukes at its disposal, from land, air and sea.

It's time Pakistan calls a halt to its burgeoning nuke stockpile and channelizes the sparse funds available for economic development instead.

It would be awesome if all three known nuke powers of Asia could disarm nukes unilaterally but Pakistan wont do it because its enemy India has them, India wont because China has them and China wont becuase the US and Russia has them. Its a vicious cycle and we cannot fault only Pakistan in having nukes.

No one's aware of India or China's nuke arsenal, so cannot comment on how much of nukes are right for Pakistan.
 
All out war is a thing of the past, but it's fashionable to speak about it due to vested interests. ZA Bhutto did say that the Pakistani people will eat grass in order to produce a nuclear weapon!

The point is, Pakistan has now attained the ignoble title of the 'The country with the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world'! How many more nukes is Pakistan going to produce before it starts utilizing these funds for eradicating poverty, improving health, education and the standard of living of the people of Pakistan instead?

Nuclear weapons are unusable in today's geopolitical scenario and are at best of deterrent value. Thus, even a single nuke of a nominal 20KT yield has enough deterrent value to assure MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) against an enemy.

So-called 'Tactical' nukes as a battlefield weapon have been discarded as a flawed concept by all countries that were in possession of these weapons and have destroyed them all. But Pakistani generals in their wisdom have resurrected this dangerous concept under the mistaken notion that these will blunt Indian attacks into its territory! Are they aware that a tactical nuclear strike will inevitably lead to a counter value response leading to an all out nuclear war? There will be NO graduated response. Indian nuclear doctrine is crystal clear and that is use of ANY type of nuclear weapon whether counter force or counter value by Pakistan against India or its armed forces will result in a massive response with all nukes at its disposal, from land, air and sea.

It's time Pakistan calls a halt to its burgeoning nuke stockpile and channelizes the sparse funds available for economic development instead.

That is exactly the point. Pakistan's policy has never been to have nukes prepared for when everything has been lost. Their best use for Pakistan would be to outrightly dismiss any possibility of war. And the above given situation that you have described caters exactly to that. Not even let a limited conflict be an option for the Indian Generals, as is envisioned in the reported CSD, unless the Indian generals are blind to what you have stated. Just in case they do go for it then the IBGs are toast; win win. All this is to say that the ball is again in India's court. India devises plans working around the nuclear threshold Pakistan makes the threshold more constricting. If Pakistan can assure MAD even at the slightest whimsical Indian poke then I'd say well played. Would make the Indian generals think a million times before starting anything and we keep sitting in our homes waging war on PDF.
 
All out war is a thing of the past, but it's fashionable to speak about it due to vested interests. ZA Bhutto did say that the Pakistani people will eat grass in order to produce a nuclear weapon!

The point is, Pakistan has now attained the ignoble title of the 'The country with the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world'! How many more nukes is Pakistan going to produce before it starts utilizing these funds for eradicating poverty, improving health, education and the standard of living of the people of Pakistan instead?

Nuclear weapons are unusable in today's geopolitical scenario and are at best of deterrent value. Thus, even a single nuke of a nominal 20KT yield has enough deterrent value to assure MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) against an enemy.

So-called 'Tactical' nukes as a battlefield weapon have been discarded as a flawed concept by all countries that were in possession of these weapons and have destroyed them all. But Pakistani generals in their wisdom have resurrected this dangerous concept under the mistaken notion that these will blunt Indian attacks into its territory! Are they aware that a tactical nuclear strike will inevitably lead to a counter value response leading to an all out nuclear war? There will be NO graduated response. Indian nuclear doctrine is crystal clear and that is use of ANY type of nuclear weapon whether counter force or counter value by Pakistan against India or its armed forces will result in a massive response with all nukes at its disposal, from land, air and sea.

It's time Pakistan calls a halt to its burgeoning nuke stockpile and channelizes the sparse funds available for economic development instead.

While indians are investing all in offensive capability, their citizens tell Pakistan to go for economic development? Rafaels, nuclear sub, ICBM, tanks, artillery, upgrades for Su-30MKI/Mig-29s, new Mig 29s for navy and so on...

Pakistan's doctrine is simple. Contain India within its borders! We will keep solidifying our strategic doctrine of minimum credible deterrence against india.

One more thing : Who told you that Nasr' is a battle-field nuke only? It IS a 'battle-space' weapon that can be used in the battle-field on your soil too...

What you need to understand is that Pakistan can give two hoot to your doctrine. Our nuclear doctrine is clear. When supreme national interests are harmed, we will launch an all-out , multi-pronged nuclear attack on India. As simple as that. We don't care about the aftermath as MAD is certain...

In any military expedition with Pakistan, you have only two choices :

A) Either fail in your objective and face a defeat.

B) Face total destruction of your Dharmic civilization.

So, dont tell us what to do because we aren't the one's investing in our offensive conventional capabilities and talking about punitive strikes, cold-start, surgical strikes and better yet, "limited war under nuclear umbrella" ......

That is exactly the point. Pakistan's policy has never been to have nukes prepared for when everything has been lost. Their best use for Pakistan would be to outrightly dismiss any possibility of war. And the above given situation that you have described caters exactly to that. Not even let a limited conflict be an option for the Indian Generals, as is envisioned in the reported CSD, unless the Indian generals are blind to what you have stated. Just in case they do go for it then the IBGs are toast; win win. All this is to say that the ball is again in India's court. India devises plans working around the nuclear threshold Pakistan makes the threshold more constricting. If Pakistan can assure MAD even at the slightest whimsical Indian poke then I'd say well played. Would make the Indian generals think a million times before starting anything and we keep sitting in our homes waging war on PDF.

THIS! :tup:
 
But now USD to PKR is 97.25.

gdp is measured at the time when official gdp by finance ministry is revealed in contrast to dollars

i came to know this through indians because when chinese friends use to say that indian gdp with devalue of 20% has been reduced to 1400 odd billions..bt tht was in correct
 
@AUz Indian defense build up is also aimed at China, Protecting our shipping lanes. Pakistan is one of the factor here not every development is aimed at Pakistan.
 
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